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Heart of Invictus Well done that man!

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Rosiem2808 · 07/09/2023 10:21

Prince Harry keeping it real

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Puzzledandpissedoff · 27/02/2024 10:50

The cost doesn't only fall on the host city

Quite right, TallerSally, but they'd have to fund something and a Section 114 disallows expenditure on anything except statutory and safeguarding matters

Doubtless creative accounting could make it look as if the whole thing was being funded centrally, but it sounds a bit dubious on the whole - and does it really matter where Invictus takes place as long as it happens?

TallerSally · 29/02/2024 11:32

Harry/Invictus latest - Harry honouring Josh Boggi, an Invictus Games champion and former soldier, for winning a Sports Give Back award

"Josh served as an army corporal, however, in 2010, he lost his legs and right arm after he stepped on an improvised explosive device. During his recovery, Josh discovered a love of cycling and he currently works alongside wounded and ill service personnel.
Josh has won medals in cycling at the Invictus Games, which were founded by Prince Harry in 2014, and he currently serves as a community liaison executive for the Games. Alongside these achievements, Josh has also completed the 3,000-mile Race Across America team cycling challenge in record time and became the first triple amputee rescue scuba diver."

https://www.hellomagazine.com/royalty/514421/prince-harry-surprise-appearance-court-ruling/

So many inspiring stories!

Prince Harry makes surprise appearance following court ruling – details

The Duke of Sussex made a surprise video appearance at the Sport Gives Back Awards

https://www.hellomagazine.com/royalty/514421/prince-harry-surprise-appearance-court-ruling

Coronateachingagain · 29/02/2024 23:51

TallerSally · 27/02/2024 10:34

... to host Invictus 2027, that is.

The cost doesn't only fall on the host city. Clearly, the fact that Birmingham's bid is supported by the UK Minister for Veteran Affairs (or something) suggests that he will line up some Ministry of Defence funding, just as, for example, the Dutch MoD co-funded IG in Den Haag, and the German Bundeswehr co-funded IG Dusseldorf.

According to Wiki, here's how the first IG in 2014 were funded:

"£500,000 of funding for the project came from the Endeavour Fund, an arm of the Royal Foundation Prince Harry had created specifically for veterans' recovery, with an equal amount being pledged by Chancellor George Osborne from Treasury funds generated by fines imposed on banks as a result of the Libor scandal.[6][8] The Games were also sponsored by Jaguar Land Rover.[5]"

Since then as I've posted upthread, Harry and his Invictus crew signed up Boeing in 2018, who have just renewed their sponsorship for another 3 years I think, and I'm sure there are other sponsors too.

And no doubt Harry, in his masses of free time between court case prep, being the patron for the 7-8 non-profits listed on sussex.com, co-writing books and other content, working for BetterUp as Chief Impact Officer, filming Heart of Invictus II (we hope!!!), monitoring the media's attacks on his family, and paying £4m/yr to keep them safe, is busy hustling to sign up more sponsors for IG in the future.

Such a lazy, self-indulgent bum! 😆

Patron of non-profits - what does he do apart from showing up for the photo and in private jet?

Co-writing books 😆
Court case work 😅
Chief Impact Officer 😆😆😆 again what does he exactly do?
Hustling to sign up more sponsors (for himself)🤑

Seriously 😅

OneHeartySnail · 01/03/2024 17:19

What does he do as CHIMPO? What does he do to evaluate or improve impact?

Or is he selling his name/title as something that gives credence to a random company?

TallerSally · 02/03/2024 06:36

It’ll soon be crunch time for the UK’s support for Invictus.

The 10th Anniversary service is being held in the UK in May, and we’ll be watching closely to see how the UK handles it.

Will the media focus of the veterans, and how a decade of Invictus has impacted their lives, with facts and figures and individual stories and experiences?

Will the UK government seize the opportunity to shine the spotlight on veterans issues, put proposals on the table for more funding, more efforts to integrate veterans into employment or reskilling, more support for their carers, including respite support?

Will the BBC do a documentary on “10 Years of Invictus Games”?

Will UK Government ministers and members of the royal family make a show of support, and demonstrate that they care about veterans, not least because they’re trying to win Invictus for Birmingham as host city in 2027?

Or will the lot of them continue ignoring the veterans and Invictus, opting instead to make the whole thing about petty royal family squabbling with Prince Harry and Meghan, and the usual boring and pathetic gossip and drama bla bla bla?

Will the UK rise to the occasion???

https://www.newidea.com.au/what-are-the-invictus-games

Prince Harry in talks to return to UK with wife and kids for Invictus Games event

Prince Harry is reportedly in talks with the UK government to bring his wife Meghan Markle, and children Prince Archie, and Princess Lilibet to his birth country. According to insider reports, the Duke of Sussex is hoping that his family can accompany...

https://www.newidea.com.au/what-are-the-invictus-games

Coronateachingagain · 02/03/2024 09:47

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Roussette · 02/03/2024 09:49

You really cannot throw around accusations that posters here are paid to post. You've done it more than once and its against TG

Janiie · 02/03/2024 09:53

TallerSally · 02/03/2024 06:36

It’ll soon be crunch time for the UK’s support for Invictus.

The 10th Anniversary service is being held in the UK in May, and we’ll be watching closely to see how the UK handles it.

Will the media focus of the veterans, and how a decade of Invictus has impacted their lives, with facts and figures and individual stories and experiences?

Will the UK government seize the opportunity to shine the spotlight on veterans issues, put proposals on the table for more funding, more efforts to integrate veterans into employment or reskilling, more support for their carers, including respite support?

Will the BBC do a documentary on “10 Years of Invictus Games”?

Will UK Government ministers and members of the royal family make a show of support, and demonstrate that they care about veterans, not least because they’re trying to win Invictus for Birmingham as host city in 2027?

Or will the lot of them continue ignoring the veterans and Invictus, opting instead to make the whole thing about petty royal family squabbling with Prince Harry and Meghan, and the usual boring and pathetic gossip and drama bla bla bla?

Will the UK rise to the occasion???

https://www.newidea.com.au/what-are-the-invictus-games

The media will focus on the vets and not the overdressed over grinning pair hanging on to IG coat tails.

Mylovelygreendress · 02/03/2024 09:55

Not sure I really understand what is meant by Harry being in talks with the Government . Is it not the case that he ( or someone on his behalf) submits notice that he/ they will be in the U.K. on X date and RAVEC makes the decision about security ? Am I ( not for the first time ) missing something?
Also , I thought Meghan never wanted to set foot in the U.K. again ? How will they avoid the DC being photographed if they attend the service ?

Coronateachingagain · 02/03/2024 09:59

Roussette · 02/03/2024 09:49

You really cannot throw around accusations that posters here are paid to post. You've done it more than once and its against TG

What are you accusing me of exactly? 😅 or do you also have free access to most media outlets?

Mylovelygreendress · 02/03/2024 10:03

@TallerSally the way you talk , it’s as if Invictus is the only charity which supports veterans ? What about SAFFA , British Legion , Help for Heroes to name but a few . Have they all had 10 year documentaries ?
Invictus is a great initiative, it’s just unfortunate that it has become about Meghan’s clothes .

Janiie · 02/03/2024 10:07

Mylovelygreendress · 02/03/2024 09:55

Not sure I really understand what is meant by Harry being in talks with the Government . Is it not the case that he ( or someone on his behalf) submits notice that he/ they will be in the U.K. on X date and RAVEC makes the decision about security ? Am I ( not for the first time ) missing something?
Also , I thought Meghan never wanted to set foot in the U.K. again ? How will they avoid the DC being photographed if they attend the service ?

I think they meant they won't be in the UK to be sat third row back at a stuffy Royal thing but the IG where they've made sure the light has been shone most definitely on them will be a different ball game altogether! Maybe Good King Harold will request a carriage ride especially for it.

Let's hope KC steals their thunder and makes a speech. He is head of the Armed forces afterall (as folk like to tell us on here every day..)

skullbabe · 02/03/2024 10:18

Will the UK government seize the opportunity to shine the spotlight on veterans issues, put proposals on the table for more funding, more efforts to integrate veterans into employment or reskilling, more support for their carers, including respite support?

To be fair, Windsor Wars notwithstanding, Johnny Mercer, MP, as Veterans Affairs Minister did make the trip to Germany for Invictus to support team GB and does try to represent veterans well in his ministerial role. The issue with veterans events and affairs has always been the thing that many people have spoken about from all angles - the general disinterest from the media, public and government when it comes things to do with veterans health and well being after the fighting’s done or they have come home. Invictus is one, Help for Heroes another or the British Legion. I don’t think that Invictus would make the government seize the initiative but I am sure that most would say that whilst the attention is on the event in May - that would be the absolute time to strike whilst the mood is hot for a targeted issue like rehab/retrain centres by Help for Heroes for example or a focussed and organised veteran for that matter.

Puzzledandpissedoff · 02/03/2024 10:26

Janiie · 02/03/2024 09:53

The media will focus on the vets and not the overdressed over grinning pair hanging on to IG coat tails.

If only Sad

The media's merely interested in clicks and know that H&M will garner more than the deserving vets, and as for the government ... with an election looming they'll be even more focused on themselves than usual (if that's possible)

skullbabe · 02/03/2024 10:28

It’s unlikely that the whole family will come to the UK based on what was in the judgement about the preparations before coming to the UK for August 2022. There seemed to be an impasse as to what was adequate security for them as a family and I don’t think that it has been resolved. Harry will travel alone like he did the last time there was a publicised overseas journey and Meghan will follow separately without the children.

skullbabe · 02/03/2024 10:30

I think it would be lovely in Charles attended and made a speech.

Janiie · 02/03/2024 10:44

' unlikely that the whole family will come to the UK based on what was in the judgement about the preparations before coming to the UK for August 2022. There seemed to be an impasse as to what was adequate security for them'

Yes far safer to screech around the US unfathomablely jumping in and out of taxis. Whar a security team! Grin.

They of course would have security for a high profile event in the UK.

Roussette · 02/03/2024 10:48

skullbabe · 02/03/2024 10:30

I think it would be lovely in Charles attended and made a speech.

Yes, wouldn't it just. Hope he does

Puzzledandpissedoff · 02/03/2024 10:55

skullbabe · 02/03/2024 10:30

I think it would be lovely in Charles attended and made a speech.

I agree it would be nice, even if he just send a good luck message, but would Harry welcome that or start insisting the family were trying to muscle in and grab the attention for themselves?

I imagine it would have to be a VERY carefully drafted message if this was to be avoided, and maybe the family feel it's just better swerved
Shame for the vets I guess, but as others have said it's not as if Invictus is the only organisation which supports them

skullbabe · 02/03/2024 11:15

We’ll have to see - as I said it would be nice.

Porkfest · 02/03/2024 11:15

I wonder if the IG PR team have crunched the numbers to consider if MM is actually a distraction and/or hindrance to the games profile as she runs her own proactive parallel PR campaign off the back of the games?

Her team is known to brief journalists on her garments and SM is alight with what she wears putting her front and central rather than the achievement of the veterans in order to enhance her own career which shows a deep lack of integrity.

Michelle Obama had some wise words for H&M that she delivered after the Oprah interview which was to make sure you direct the light and attention away from you and on to the cause when in service.

This dignified approach could have paid off by now.

Janiie · 02/03/2024 11:23

skullbabe · 02/03/2024 11:15

We’ll have to see - as I said it would be nice.

It would be nice! but I'm guessing Harry will call the shots. It would ne nice if KC liaised with the actual bosses and admin to decide on what would be appropriate but I would bet a tenner H will be the one dishing out the instructions.

pipsfromthefuture · 02/03/2024 15:29

skullbabe · 02/03/2024 10:30

I think it would be lovely in Charles attended and made a speech.

I agree, it would be really nice if Charles did that, especially considering he heads the forces.

I still really loves that funny Invictus video of the UK and US teams with Harry and QE and the Obamas. Good sports all around

TallerSally · 02/03/2024 16:55

pipsfromthefuture · 02/03/2024 15:29

I agree, it would be really nice if Charles did that, especially considering he heads the forces.

I still really loves that funny Invictus video of the UK and US teams with Harry and QE and the Obamas. Good sports all around

I echo that! 👌

TallerSally · 07/03/2024 14:41

Well well well... seems yesterday's UK government budget also included... £26 million to support the bid to bring the Invictus Games to Birmingham in 2027.

"The Government has announced funding of up to £26million to back the UK’s bid to host the Invictus Games in 2027.
This demonstrates the UK Government's commitment to stand by and support the heroic Armed Forces community, says Defence Secretary @grantshapps."

But... doesn't the whole of the UK hate Harry and Meghan, and want them to never return to the UK, having cheered as their taxpayer-funded security was removed thanks to Prince William's aides, and as they were kicked out of Frogmore cottage by King Charles?

Something's not adding up... I know some folks on these threads spend their days praying that Harry and Meghan are booted out of Invictus, and coming up with nonsensical reasons for this (we they create too much drama! their clothes that we they pay for are too expensive! 3 of the 140'000 people who attended the last Invictus in Dusseldorf said they were attention-seeking a*sholes!), but we all know that's about as likely to happen as an ice cube staying frozen in hell...

So, is the UK serious about hosting Invictus, and what are they going to do about the deplorably toxicity they are constantly creating around M&H? (just look at the daily front pages devoted to Kate Middleton's clueless and vacuous "uncle Gary" to hurl insults at Meghan even though he's never even met her!)

https://www.birminghammail.co.uk/news/midlands-news/birmingham-invictus-games-plan-government-28769969