Heart of Invictus: Flop?

[MamoruHisaishi]

Heart of Invictus, another Prince Harry-produced project, missed the chart this week for its debut and did not get into any weekly Top 10 worldwide. It’s good that the former Royals are able to produce passion projects, but it would be even better for Netflix if somebody was to actually watch them.

https://www.whats-on-netflix.com/news/netflix-top-10s-one-piece-disenchantment-choose-love-heart-of-invictus/

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Heart of Invictus, another Prince Harry-produced project, missed the chart this week for its debut and did not get into any weekly Top 10 worldwide.

It wasn't in any top 10 charts for Netflix, that's the point. And no, me posting an article that this was a flop in viewership ratings doesn't mean that I'm ‘weirdly’ invested in him failing. It's the reality of the situation that some people here can't seem to handle.

It should be a concern to the sussexes because if no one watches their non royal related work, they're not going to have any success as producers and there won't be any reason for Netflix to keep them on.

The reality is, not bring in the top 10 doesn’t make it a flop as explained in several posts.

Reporting on harry’s documentary flopping when it comes to viewership is now considered ‘hate’?

Why not? It is a flop in viewership ratings because otherwise why wouldn't it be in the top 10? There have been much loved Netflix series with higher viewerships that have not been allowed to continue, so not sure why this isn't considered a flop in ratings?

How many documentaries show up in the top 10 charts? I wouldn't have thought many do.

The documentary seems to have well reviewed which may be more important in the long run.

And the thing is that there was a lot of hype regarding this documentary even before it premiered and it still flopped ratings wise.

Yes, I believe that some people are absolutely invested in Harry failing. They seem to want him to be unhappy because he left UK. Last week I saw lots of people say he looked miserable at Beyonce show. He was literally just standing watching the show! Everyone watches shows like that. You're not going to be jumping and grinning and dancing the whole time unless you're 12.

Likewise with Invictus. Really how often does UK even talk about war veterans? These people who gave everything to keep us safe? The Sun does sometimes with Help for Heroes campaign, but I don't see many others. These men and women are forgotten people. UK treats its veterans very badly in my view. Harry is centring them and bringing them a spotlight and I think that is so incredibly noble and amazing.

Harry could spend the rest of his life doing interviews about his experience of the royal fmaily, god knows there would be an audience for this type of gossip. Instead he has chosen to centre others and give a voice to the voiceless. I really applaud it and definitely plan to watch the documentary at some point.

Their business concerns are none of our business.

The Meghan and Harry documentary discussing their time in the royal family did:

Part one of Prince Harry and Meghan Markle's Netflix documentary debutedwith 81.55 million hours viewed – making it the highest viewed documentary premiere for the streaming platform. Netflix says 28 million households have viewed the show so far.

The documentary is two parts – three episodes were released on Dec. 8 and the next three will be released on Thursday, Dec. 15. In its first week, part one was in the Top 10 list for Netflix shows in 85 countries. It was No. 1 in the U.K.

Agreed.
It's honestly not the sort of thing I'd binge. I'd probably save it for a weekend to watch with day my dad, as it's a thoughtful documentary series.

I don’t think I’ve ever actually checked the Netflix Top 10 until this thread.

I wouldn’t like to be up against the likes of season 6 of Peppa Pig who is sitting comfortably at number 10.

The Top 10 hardly reflects quality does it?

How is that related to harry’s documentary flopping ratings wise?

Yup, the Meghan and harry documentary was in the top 10 list but I wouldn't consider it a quality series.

And? Not everything they produce will be record breaking, as expected. That still doesn’t make this series a flop.

I don't think it has been very well organised

You've got it bad, don't you!!!

William refers occasionally to his mother in context. Harry flogs her memory for money. Big difference!

That one is easy.

Shot up the Netflix chart with the help of those suffering nosy bastarditis despite claiming to have no interest.

"Heart of Invictus, another Prince Harry-produced project, missed the chart this week for its debut and did not get into any weekly Top 10 worldwide"

Maybe, but it doesn't make the initiative or the sterling efforts of the vets any less worthy, so I wouldn't call it a flop from that POV

Admittedly I'm surprised though; anything with Harry's name on it usually does better, but maybe that's largely driven by interest in his endless RF disclosures

I only hope people haven't actively been put off watching it because of media reports about Harry "moaning again". Yes that's partly the media's fault for focusing so much on this, but for me Harry also shares the blame for yet again feeding them

They’ve only had 3 series for Netflix so far, the live to lead and heart of invictus documentaries both flopped, as they didn't make the top 10 list of most watched shows. The only one that was a ratings success was a documentary that had to do with them discussing their time in the royal family. And it goes the same with their other work. The only successes they've had so far was anything royal related.

Got what bad? No need to be goady.

Harry is also discussing his mother in context, its about trauma and pain. Some of the athletes featured discussed their childhoods too, are they also wrong? The criticism of Harry is he shouldn't;t be talking about himself at all, that same criticism could be levelled at William when he discusses his mother. That's my point.

So you genuinely believe anything that doesn't make the top 10 is a flop? So only 10 shows on the whole of Netflix are successful? That's really not how the industry works. Surely you can see that.

I asked you earlier what the viewing figures were, you seem so certain the figures are low. Do you have the figures that you're basing that on, or is it just about the top 10 lists for you? have you watched any of the shows on the top 10?

I think we need a clear definition of a flop from Netflix.

Is every series and film on your platform officially a flop if not in the top 10?

No-one is calling any of the programmes in the Top Ten a flop.

This documentary isn't in the Top Ten

I'll see if I can find any of the viewing figures, hopefully Netflix does release it, but yes if a documentary that had been hyped even before it premiered failed to make the top 10 list in viewership numbers (unlike their other documentary that was considered a hit due to its high ratings and was in the top 10 list in multiple countries), then yes it is a flop.