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Angrycat2768 · 27/09/2023 08:13

upinaballoon · 26/09/2023 21:06

How many languages would Harry have learnt at his expensive school for the privileged?

Harry is a member of the RF, brought up by the RF. If both boys can't speak any languages, despite the best education money can buy then that is on the Royals. Chances are the reason neither of them can speak languages is because they couldnt be bothered to learn them, and no one in the RF told their tutors/nannies etc to make them. There is no comparison between William and Harry anyway. Harry was always going to be less and less relevant to the Monarchy. William is expecting to be King, and is expecting his son to be King. He is the one who should have put the effort in. He hasn't.

Angrycat2768 · 27/09/2023 08:24

ThreeBearsPorridge · 26/09/2023 22:49

I do find it astonishing that given the amount of global interaction the Royals are expected to do that they don't make it an absolute priority to learn languages before anything else. Why on earth don't William and Harry speak fluent French and German, particularly as their family IS German? What exactly have they learned which has been useful at Eton I wonder. Charles can speak rudimentary French I think but that's about it. Same applies to him. It's not a great example abroad is it?

I think Charles speaks pretty good French and German, and learnt Welsh before he became PoW. William and Harry should have been learning languages well before their mother died, so it seems they were spoilt and indulged and told they didn't have to do anything they didn't want to do from an early age. Despite all the Palace PR at the time about them being brought up differently from previous generations of Royal children.

Batatahara · 27/09/2023 09:04

Angrycat2768 · 26/09/2023 11:56

I honestly don't know why people want Charles to abdicate in fsvour of William. Firstly it shows they don't really know what the RF is, and secondly, do they really think he's done enough to be given that role? He has hugely underachieved even when it comes to Royalling. Is it just ageism?

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I also wonder about this.

I think a lot of it does boil down to ageism/looks. I genuinely get the sense that, if Kate was two stone heavier, she and William would be much less popular. I think a lot of their popularity boils down to how she looks.

I am a republican more generally but I think there is strong evidence that Charles does take his role seriously and has put in the groundwork. And there's really not so much that evidence for William and Kate

Roussette · 27/09/2023 09:56

Batatahara · 27/09/2023 09:04

I also wonder about this.

I think a lot of it does boil down to ageism/looks. I genuinely get the sense that, if Kate was two stone heavier, she and William would be much less popular. I think a lot of their popularity boils down to how she looks.

I am a republican more generally but I think there is strong evidence that Charles does take his role seriously and has put in the groundwork. And there's really not so much that evidence for William and Kate

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I totally agree. Apart from me being disappointed in Charles's promises of slimming down and I thought cutting back, which hasn't happened, I think he has waited so long for this role, I imagine he does take it seriously.

W&K not so. I have seen no evidence of this. I wonder how long they can carry on with such a light work schedule and being there for the kids. One parent there for the kids, yes, the other one working flat out (or the hard work split between them). Two parents being there for the children is a ridiculous extravagence.

Batatahara · 27/09/2023 10:46

Roussette · 27/09/2023 09:56

I totally agree. Apart from me being disappointed in Charles's promises of slimming down and I thought cutting back, which hasn't happened, I think he has waited so long for this role, I imagine he does take it seriously.

W&K not so. I have seen no evidence of this. I wonder how long they can carry on with such a light work schedule and being there for the kids. One parent there for the kids, yes, the other one working flat out (or the hard work split between them). Two parents being there for the children is a ridiculous extravagence.

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Given their children are now all in school, I don't especially see why one of them needs to be around for the children at all times anyway - they obviously have the nanny for back up.

I slightly wonder if they will have one more child partly to justify not doing much

Serenster · 27/09/2023 11:20

Given their children are now all in school, I don't especially see why one of them needs to be around for the children at all times anyway - they obviously have the nanny for back up

I have children in primary school, and a full time job. I still want to be there for my children’s school events, watch their sports games, attend sports day, go to the choir performance, meet the teachers etc etc. Three children is a lot of school commitments to juggle, as I know full well.

Serenster · 27/09/2023 11:22

I genuinely get the sense that, if Kate was two stone heavier, she and William would be much less popular. I think a lot of their popularity boils down to how she looks.

Kate’s weight is responsible for the future of the monarchy now?

Batatahara · 27/09/2023 11:35

Serenster · 27/09/2023 11:22

I genuinely get the sense that, if Kate was two stone heavier, she and William would be much less popular. I think a lot of their popularity boils down to how she looks.

Kate’s weight is responsible for the future of the monarchy now?

I'm not endorsing it - I think it's shocking how much appearances matter - but yes I do think that the public can be quite superficial. I think looking at Diana and Fergie's press reception tells you some of that.

If it's not about that, I have no idea why William and Kate seem relatively popular

quantumbutterfly · 27/09/2023 11:37

I'm sure some of the public are swung by superficial issues otherwise they'd have seen through the play acting sooner.

ThreeBearsPorridge · 27/09/2023 11:38

Roussette · 27/09/2023 09:56

I totally agree. Apart from me being disappointed in Charles's promises of slimming down and I thought cutting back, which hasn't happened, I think he has waited so long for this role, I imagine he does take it seriously.

W&K not so. I have seen no evidence of this. I wonder how long they can carry on with such a light work schedule and being there for the kids. One parent there for the kids, yes, the other one working flat out (or the hard work split between them). Two parents being there for the children is a ridiculous extravagence.

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We don’t know how much work they do during the day when their kids are at school. There must be a lot of prep, note taking, background work and zoom calls behind the scenes. I can see why Kate would want to be there for her kids when they come home for homework/ dinner etc. again we don’t know how much time the nanny spends with them. She doesn’t live in. I imagine Kate and William don’t want the nanny doing all the parenting .

No one seems exercised about Harry and Meghan doing no work at all yet living in luxury. On the proceeds of Harry’s inheritances which are through the RF. The money from books dissing his family, and interviews will help. As well as podcasts using the RF connections and titles .
Thats okay apparently.

quantumbutterfly · 27/09/2023 11:40

If superficiality we're not effective, the multibillion advertising and PR industry would be rather less successful.

Roussette · 27/09/2023 12:12

Thats okay apparently.

Yes it is. They told what had happened to them and why they left. Like it or loathe it.
Personally I prefer that people aren't silenced. And you seem to be insinuating that the Queen and/or Queen Mother should have not left him any inheritance! Bizarre!

There must be a lot of prep, note taking, background work and zoom calls behind the scenes
That's why they have so many staff. They do that I would think. I doubt William is toiling away at a computer googling stuff.

She doesn’t live in

There is accommodation for the nanny and other staff in the grounds of Adelaide Cottage. The rest of the time there is plenty of room for her at their numerous royal residences!

derxa · 27/09/2023 12:20

The rest of the time there is plenty of room for her at their numerous royal residences! Oh please tell us how many there are. It's been a while.

Roussette · 27/09/2023 12:32

derxa · 27/09/2023 12:20

The rest of the time there is plenty of room for her at their numerous royal residences! Oh please tell us how many there are. It's been a while.

As you are taking the piss out of me I will politely refrain, then when I think you're not around I will post it ad nauseum in the hope you're on your holidays 🥺😂

derxa · 27/09/2023 12:35

Roussette · 27/09/2023 12:32

As you are taking the piss out of me I will politely refrain, then when I think you're not around I will post it ad nauseum in the hope you're on your holidays 🥺😂

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Fair enough 😂

BadgerB · 27/09/2023 12:56

DewinDwl · Today 07:22

It seem [sic] the main Republican objection to the RF is that they are very rich.

If that is your take after everything people have posted on this thread, I have to conclude you are not posting in good faith. Nobody's reading comprehension can be that poor.

Well obviously mine is.....wonder how I survived so long in employment.....

Angrycat2768 · 27/09/2023 12:59

ThreeBearsPorridge · 27/09/2023 11:38

We don’t know how much work they do during the day when their kids are at school. There must be a lot of prep, note taking, background work and zoom calls behind the scenes. I can see why Kate would want to be there for her kids when they come home for homework/ dinner etc. again we don’t know how much time the nanny spends with them. She doesn’t live in. I imagine Kate and William don’t want the nanny doing all the parenting .

No one seems exercised about Harry and Meghan doing no work at all yet living in luxury. On the proceeds of Harry’s inheritances which are through the RF. The money from books dissing his family, and interviews will help. As well as podcasts using the RF connections and titles .
Thats okay apparently.

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Harry is not representing us on the world stage. He is the equivalent of any other celebrity or aristo. Yes, he is stinking rich, but that's how society is. William is expecting the role of Head of State to be handed to him, and then for it to be handed to his child and grandchild, ad infinitum. He expects the additional privileges of being able to manipulate the press, the courts and the government in his and his childrens favour. At the very least, we should expect him to make more of an effort, and not just into PR Puff pieces.

ThreeBearsPorridge · 27/09/2023 14:31

Angrycat2768 · 27/09/2023 12:59

Harry is not representing us on the world stage. He is the equivalent of any other celebrity or aristo. Yes, he is stinking rich, but that's how society is. William is expecting the role of Head of State to be handed to him, and then for it to be handed to his child and grandchild, ad infinitum. He expects the additional privileges of being able to manipulate the press, the courts and the government in his and his childrens favour. At the very least, we should expect him to make more of an effort, and not just into PR Puff pieces.

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He is using his title so in a way he is still representing Britain.

Angrycat2768 · 27/09/2023 15:09

ThreeBearsPorridge · 27/09/2023 14:31

He is using his title so in a way he is still representing Britain.

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When anyone and everyone in the world who even has a passing interest in the BRF knows full well he has left the institution and they are embroiled in a bitter family breakdown. I doubt it. Any in any case, its up to the Royals to ask Parliament to remove his title. They don't want to do it, no matter how many polls the Daily Mail do. .

BadgerB · 28/09/2023 06:40

There must be a lot of prep, note taking, background work and zoom calls behind the scenes

That's why they have so many staff. They do that I would think. I doubt William is toiling away at a computer googling stuff.

No doubt their Staff prepare the brief, but the Royal who is doing the visit must read it, question it, understand a fair bit about the organisation to be visited.

No one expects the C.E.O. of a large company to do all his own research

Roussette · 28/09/2023 06:43

No one expects the C.E.O. of a large company to do all his own research

Absolutely not. It will all be prepared for William. He just has to assimilate it and appear interested!

Batatahara · 28/09/2023 06:51

I don't think anyone expects him to do all his own research - they're just pointing out that with the very small number of engagements he does, he isn't that busy. He certainly could have spent some time learning Welsh by now, Charles did some proper study and delivered speeches in Welsh.

He certainly has enough time to go on a lot of holidays..

pilates · 28/09/2023 07:35

How do you know PW doesn’t speak Welsh or any language? I thought that PW started to learn Welsh in Eton. Not sure how proficient he is. My mum is Welsh and knows the odd word and that is it.

Batatahara · 28/09/2023 07:46

It's just one example of the difference between Charles and William - Charles, well before the big Welsh language revival, took the time to learn the language and deliver speeches. William... can't be bothered.

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