Double amputee war hero who inspired Prince Harry to start Invictus 'disagrees' with Duke's claim British press did not cover stories of wounded in Afghanistan as Colonel says his popularity is dwindling with veterans

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https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12466191/Afghanistan-war-hero-prince-harry-british-soldiers.html

@Mycatisthebestever please stop with the sweeping statements about the former colonies.

Visiting a commonwealth country , living there for a while, is a whole lot different from being born and raised in one.

Why do you use such an offensive term? Fascism caused so much death and destruction in ww2. The Daily Mail is a newspaper like all the rest.

Fascism, unfortunately, is back Janiie. (If it ever went away). It might look a little different than it did in WW2 from our historical viewpoint, but it’s back now and growing. We pretend it’s in the past to our peril.

Fascism is not back in the UK. Offensive you can use that word so loosely.

Fascism is definitely not back!

Fascism is elitism, nationalism, yearning for a bygone era, closing borders, building walls... what does that remind you of...

Not full blown fascism, of course not, but the seeds of it. We have an unelected PM, a bloated HoL full of Tory donors, past illegality of prorogation of parliament, attempts to end the right of peaceful protest... nationalism has grown enormously, it might not be fascism but it's certainly a surge to the far right courtesy of this government.

EDIT - The same as being born in Britain and raised there.

We are not near fascism

Fgs

And given how much people on mn link to the DM with all the protest they still read it

We have had several unelected PM’s, including under the Labour Party (Gordon Brown). People forget that it is the party that is elected, not the PM personally. Nothing to do with facism 🙄. And we can change our government

Yes it’s the democratic process here. What a thing to include for fascism

If you read my post properly, I am not hinging everything on an unelected PM.

I know, but it was that particular point I was commenting on. Extreme right wing and extreme left wing amount to the same thing in the end anyway (Stalin anyone?) and we are nowhere near that in the UK as a whole. There will always be noisy fanatics of any political persuasion. We could have a left leaning government tomorrow if there was an election. Then some people would start saying that we are on our way to becoming an authoritarian state 🤷‍♀️

Fascism was actually quite bad

That made me laugh

Well if all the polls are correct then Sir Keir will be in power next year and we'll be back to the land of milk and honey. The SNP will be out (hurrah!) Italy has a far right leader now but we never will.

In a flat in Italy in the 1970s there was a young woman who had been born and grown up in Scotland. Her father was Italian. There is a cliche and it may even have become a joke sometimes, about Mussolini making the trains run on time. She said it - that M got the trains running on time. A young man who was there rounded on her. He said his parents lived through those Fascist days and that if you didn't say yes, no, three bags full, you were beaten up.

A friend of mine, great Guardian reader, told me I was a fascist/Fascist when I said that I would like to see the local town make by-laws about the size and colours of lettering on the shops. (Some of them are so garish.) I would have preferred it if she had said that she thought that sounded a bit bossy and what about the freedom of the shops to choose, rather than jump on me with the word Fascist. I feel it was unwarranted and if she were* still alive I'd like to snap back at her. That's got that bit of anger out.

*nice use of the subjunctive

A man in an eastern European country wrote on a wall - Communism is the same as Fascism. The extremes of either direction turn out to be much the same imo. I am echoing what someone said above.

I admit It’s not fascism. So, Mea culpa. I certainly overstated. But there are elements of fascism present at the moment - but not enough to say it’s fascism. To declare its fascism is over the top, you are quite right. (I was having a dark day) You are all quite right, but I still believe that we seeing worrying trends.

Rousette has pointed out some of the concerns. Growth of nationalism, the right to protest being threatened, I add the huge amount of wealth and power increasingly held by the few (who is running our countries when govts are in thrall to big business, I wonder?) while the majority grow poorer. Media ownership has become more concentrated. The increasing polarised beliefs within our societies. (I think the far left can be as intractable as the reactionary right). The British ex pm piroguing parliament illegally, and an ex PM of my country secretly having himself sworn into a number of ministerial positions - not illegal but found to be not in the spirit of the constitution. An ex US president being repeatedly indicted. Britain had Johnson, while Australia had Morrison, and the US had Trump all at the same time. I fear a Trump re- election. I also worry they will elect a Trump like president. Also, we are seeing in the US and Australia and parts of Europe more visible neonazism, in my opinion. As I said it’s concerning.

I am not making sweeping statements about Commonwealth countries. I am putting forward my lived experience of those countries I lived in. There is no way that my experience is the same as theirs and vice versa. HTH. Their heritage is their own as is mine.

@ALittleTeawithmilk Re polarised opinions, I don't like the way so many papers and programmes, not to mention AIBU, give people two choices only for voting on a topic and encourage just the two opposing opinions. I suppose most of it is for dosh, but it is no encouragement to teach young people to think about all the shades of grey in between. It's like the if-you-approve-of-H and M-you-must-hate-K and W. Sorry, I'm a long way from double amputee veterans.

I’m too tired to explain it to you again tonight Mycat , but @MrsMaxDeWinter did explain it all very well, and much better than I can.

I will l just say, When you grow up in a colonised country you learn two ways of being, two ways of moving through life. You have your own culture - and for some colonised people it’s what has survived of their own culture (colonisation is not a kind process) - but you also have to learn to live and breath and move through the coloniser’s culture. It’s profound.

Apologies for referring back to topic, but I was also thinking that when Harry says the press never cover veterans, he is forgetting that “the press” includes local news which often have special interest stories about veterans. He is also not considering the fact that huge stories often make the news like homelessness & MH which disproportionately affect veterans. The royals also play a big part in ensuring events like Remembrance Sunday as well as W’s work for homelessness & mental health, and Harry’s IG all get in the national news - so by ensuring it gets in the news, that is his job (if it got in the national news without him, they wouldn’t need his help).

P.S., re the growth of nationalism - I bought a patchwork bag which has loads of bits of pattern on it, including slivers of union jacks. I wish I'd chosen something different among the very few available because I daren't use it in case someone thinks I'm am member of UKIP or the BNP. Another bad purchase.

I'll keep the Magna Carta tote bag.