"Heart of Invictus" documentary series, streaming 30 August 2023

[MrsMaxDeWinter]

The trailer for 'Heart of Invictus" has been released by Netflix, and it looks incredible, and so moving.

For those interested, please find it here.

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Trust me when I say nothing he says overshadows the series. Nothing.
Those that are reporting otherwise, well, that’s hardly surprising. I would argue that by wilfully nitpicking and choosing to ignore 99.9999999% of the series, they are the ones that are deliberately overshadowing the series and doing a disservice to the veterans.

There’s a reason why most if not all of the articles I post are from abroad (Murdoch publications excluded).

Maybe read my link I have just done? Executive Producer title for Harry was just a title I believe. That's my assumption reading what the actual Producer says.

I agree. I have just read a summary of all episodes and when and in what context Harry is mentioned. It is miniscule. And such a shame that is what certain posters are intent on focussing on.

The thing is, from the various reviews I have read ( I havent had a chance to watch it) Harry is a tiny part of it, and the comments are not mentioned anywhere but the Daily Mail. As they have an axe to grind, I suspect that they have had people poring over every sentence and utterance in the documentary trying to get any suggestion of a slight on the Royal Family out of it. (bearing in mind they managed to get weeks of coverage out of a picture of Meghan wearing a coat in the summer analysing every single thing out of one picture) and that has been repeated all over the internet by people also with either an obsession with Harry and in particular, Meghan and mostly people who have not watched the documentary at all.

@Angrycat2768

It’s not just the DM that is running the story about Harry’s comments !

Hmmm… I can’t help thinking that some of the posters gushing over this documentary wouldn’t have given it the time of day if Harry hadn’t been in it. And mark my words they’ll be applauding Meghan’s appearances ( which were by all accounts heavily trimmed in the editing process).

I hope these posters are generous contributors to the Poppy Appeal and Help for Heroes. And yes, I do donate.

Any publicity is good for the Invictus Games, but there are some on here who would have been giving the same support to a documentary on the history of dog bowls if Harry had been presenting it.

I imagine any other media have picked up the story from the DM. That's what they do.

With the greatest respect Roussette the fact that people are commenting on the 'miniscule' amount harry is mentioned is relevant.
Because if that weren't the case then I believe this series would not have got so much traction.
A bit like 'any publicity is good publicity'.
As I said up thread, I'm no fan of his victim stance but the controversy or different opinions of harry have lead to this being a highly publicised series.
I'm sure that many people have watched it because they are 'fans' of harry , equally some may have watched it to find sticks to beat him with. I'm sure many of these people might not have watched it at all if it had been headed by another less controversial figure.
Im equally sure that whatever the motivation to watch is, it will have bought the struggles of veterans into many peoples consciousness who otherwise would have no other reason to engage.
Well done Harry

What a disgusting insensitive comment. You don't know anything abut anyone here and clearly have ignored the sharing of personal struggle.

'And such a shame that is what certain posters are intent on focussing on'

If William was on a programme and dropped inaccurate facts such as the media didn't report on injuries caused in Afghanistan I'd expect you to comment. No matter how miniscule the comments were when you are high profile you just cannot say incorrect stuff and expect folk not to notice or care.

There were plenty of military commentators on TV yesterday saying exactly the same. He lobs in 'the media are crap' and his family didn't care at every opportunity. Even a highly inappropriate one like this.

Very unfair @LadyMuckingabout

I have donated to Help for Heroes in the past and will do in the future. I've also collected for the Poppy appeal where we live.

Of course, Harry has highlighted this, but it's not as if we don't know about Invictus... it's nearly 10 years in it's existence. I was following and reading about the last Games for instance, and I remember the first Games.

The one thing Harry is... is consistent in his support of his favourite charities. Invictus nearly 10 years
Sentebale 17 years
And WellChild 15 years. And he has attended every single Awards ceremony apart from one Covid year. All the clips are on Youtube, fascinating to see how he has changed, lost hair, grown up over the years!

He is attending WellChild on September 7th this year.

@MissElinorDashwood Just wanted to acknowledge your post from yesterday and I am glad you found something in this series thats helpful, I did too. I'm sorry that poster left such a nasty post about what you do with your time, nobody here knows anyone else's life or what they do with their time so its just crass and cruel to make those kind of comments. I hope you didn't take it to heart. Your daughter is lucky to have you and I just wanted to send a hug. I have chronic illness and its hard as a fully grown adult so I feel very much for any young person. The mental health issues that come with it are a real struggle. I found the stories on this show incredibly motivational and helpful. I feel the same when I watch an animal recovery story too, their ability to go through serious trauma and come out happy and excited about life is just as inspirational as the stories of Invictus. Courage and hope go an awful long way.

How do you know that ?

Isn't that the point? As we have seen, not even the government is that interested in rehabilitation of veterans, never mind most people. The more people who watch the documentary the better. That is the whole point of Harry being there. The newspapers who are taking every tiny comment and blowing it out of proportion are taking the spotlight away from the veterans. The reason they do it is because they know it drives traffic to their website. The other newspapers and media outlets are doing the same because it drives traffic to their sites, and most of them lift the content from the Mail. If they really wanted to ignore Harry and not give him publicity, they would just stop talking about him and concentrate of the rest of the documentary. But they cant because they get so much profit from Harry and Megan stories.

@drivinmecrazy
I get what you're saying about 'any publicity is good publicity'. Totally. Harry has brought attention to Invictus and that is having to take the rough with the smooth.
However, as much as a poster now criticises some of us by saying we wouldn't be interested if it wasn't Harry (untrue). That works both ways. Some posters are only using 'Invictus' as a means to knock Harry. They wouldn't be the slightest bit interested in it otherwise It's just a vehicle for criticism, that's it. At least those who genuinely have watched it, talked about it, praised it... have their own personal stories to tell as to why the series means so much.
So basically... I understand your post! 👍

@Roussette yes it actually freaked me out looking at how young he was when he got back from Afghanistan, but thats always unsettled me about war and the age of people going. It's so young to see those sorts of things and its no wonder they suffer with trauma. I witnessed some very serious violent assaults in my childhood and still today, even with a lovely DH and family, I am very jumpy even in my own home. My poor husband has to go round the hose saying ' it's only me!'. I am surprised at how permanent the fear can be.

The BBC in the past also made documentaries about Invictus. Maybe more than one I can’t remember. Like I said it’s an amazing initiative that has done so much for many. Even if you are inspired by watching it. I won’t watch the documentary. I think I may have watched a BBC one at some stage. Nothing to do with Harry, I just don’t feel like I want to. I am sure the viewership will bring increased attention to the foundation and the support of vets which as someone said is, and always has been, woefully ignored. I also won’t watch the games as the Rugby World Cup starts same time and big fan. Again nothing to do with Harry, I just don’t want to. Having said all that I admire the work and the strength of these people but I have given up watching all of these things: Red Nose Day, CIN all of it because I emotionally bleed everywhere and I have to protect my own mental health.

Someone said he will do one on Sentebale. Again there has been one by a British broadcaster. But you know it’s worthy broadcasting to highlight these issues and charities.

I can’t help thinking that some of the posters gushing over this documentary wouldn’t have given it the time of day if Harry hadn’t been in it.

I just can't get over the cruelty and meanness in this. Its like you haven;t read the thread and the personal struggles shared, or you don't care and intend to insult and offend us.

Your system has essentially been trained to react to smoke without any fire. Anyone, children particularly, who experience trauma or have repeated experiences of trauma develop this response where their flight, freeze, drop etc responses are heightened by cortisol to such an extent that a slammed door trigger a response that essentially becomes Grenfell burning down and a full scale nervous system response. Therapy can help to determine the system but it takes an awful lot of hard and dedicated work from the person.

just my two sense as someone who works with SEMH children.

I am going to agree with you (!). My cousin fought in the Falklands . He was early 20s and never recovered, taking his own life several years later.

I know all that thanks @AuroraCake

Your post has hit home. I would love to tell 'our' story on here (me and DH). It involved our family attending a memorial in Holland this year for a close relative whose story we only found out fully two years ago. The wonderful Dutch people have never forgotten his bravery, he lied to get into the RAF and died piloting a plane with 6 on board. He was 20 and the picture of him I have... he looks about 12. It doesn't bear thinking about.

to you with your story. I imagine the fear comes from nowhere and catches you unawares.

I stand by my post that some posters (of course not all) are suddenly big supporters of veterans. Good if Harry has introduced them to Invictus and other charities for servicemen and women. But you can bet your bottom dollar that if William had fronted the documentary the support from some on here would be thin at best.

One thing that annoyed me about the documentary is that, while I get Invictus is not Meghan’s “thing”, if they were going to have her in it at all she should have been treated like a person. They edited it so that she was hovering in the background like decoration and her only words are agreeing with Harry (and a lot of nodding in general). Why not have her talk to wives of veterans or something? Just very strange to have her there but silent, she was treated like a trophy or something.

Then you know what you have to do. Stop gap it. Break the cycle. The next time he comes in hear a horse not a zebra. We are all fighting a war and those unlucky enough not to have a secure and safe childhood have to essentially go back to their inner child and parent them and tell themselves it’s alright.