Grifters indeed! Can we have a lift Joe?

[ThePoshUns]

H&M asked if they could have a lift home on AF1 after HMQs funeral.
Environmentally friendly sure, but makes them look grabby and entitled again. Makes for a good story though.

You're making assumptions of a person just because they aren't pro Meghan. It's funny how I've been accused of racism here myself just because I don't prescribe to the pro Meghan narrative. There is a pattern with the Sussex supporters that criticising Meghan and white privileged prince like Harry is somehow racist. I have the right to express my opinion on them even if its negative without being called racist because of it.

@Hibiscrubbed

Do you mean ‘global role models’

(from Harry Walker agency)

You quoted me, so I will obviously assume it was directed at me.

I do think posts that say 'I didn't like the look of her the minute I saw her' from the engagement, (nothing to do with what she said, just 'the look of her')... compared to blackface on youtube by her brother, are a little different.

I'm not telling anyone what they can think.

But how fucking unfair to judge a woman they have no clue about on a ten minute (if that) chat on a sofa when they happily talked of their engagement.. You might think that's OK. I don't.
She never stood a chance.

Whereas blackface on youtube tells us all we need to know about her brother.

If people make judgements about someone from one interview, and claim it is entirely form their behaviour, I simply don't believe it

Well, let me give you a quick example. I don’t know Amarissa Toth in the slightest. Had never heard of her before yesterday. Then I watched her behaviour in a tennis match in Hungary yesterday, and decided she’s lacking a bit of maturity and is likely to be unpleasantly competitive.

Of course I could be completely wrong, and she could be overly. But I’ve already formed an opinion of her based on her broadcast behaviour.

https://www.independent.co.uk/sport/tennis/shuai-zhang-amarissa-toth-umpire-b2378325.html

Love it, but personally I think they might hold out to 2026.

@Serenster did you join in on a sweepstake about the breakdown of her family based on that?

What a ridiculous riposte! 🤣

You are saying Meghan needed her father's help to be a success.

No, I'm not. But having someone who knows people in the business is always helpful. Why wouldn't a person take advantage of that? All three of them did. I don't understand why you're so down on any of them for doing that or on Thomas for trying to help them. I understand that you don't like Thomas, but to blame him because it didn't work out for two of them seems particularly harsh.

Meghan was successful through her own hard work but that doesn't negate the advantages she got through having a parent in the business.

It's as if you're thinking that anyone who gets on the ladder because of a parent should be criticised. I think it just makes sense to exploit advantages offered to you. I would.

Thank you thank you thank you.

People I have met who I initially thought were a bit standoffish perhaps, have turned out to be desperately shy. Others I've met who were life and soul were crippled by anxiety and trying to make up for that.

Who are we to write off Meghan from a few minutes of chat on a sofa? She never stood a chance with some people.

Science says people form first impressions in seconds.

And as Dirty Harry says in dead pool’ Opinions are like arseholes, everybody’s got one’

Who are we to write off Meghan from a few minutes of chat on a sofa? She never stood a chance with some people.

She was voluntarily marrying into the British royal family, one of the biggest, colonialist gritting families in the world according to many frequent posters on these threads? No one else in that family gets a chance, according to them. Why would Meghan be any different?

Sadly its common to do this- less so the betting on their failure- but the instant dislike based on frivolous things or identity is not uncommon. My DH comes across very badly at first, shy and quiet to me but over the years others have said to me he is scary! Which is soooo not who he is. I think it's foolish to make harsh judgements based on a tv interview.

Next, we will be told that people dislike her because they just knew from looking at her on the sofa that she would one day ask the American president for a lift on Air Force One after the Queen died.

I now expect someone to say they knew from the start that she would one day be accused of walking her dog in a market with a "no dogs sign", even if the sign in question was from a different market, it's all her fault, because there is just something about her!!

Haha exactly!

Honestly, I could go back to the day of the interview and find posts literally wiping the floor about her. Probably against TG so better not.

There is nothing wrong with first impressions, we all have 'em! But to then spend the next five years justifying your first impression on a forum is a tad odd.

No I don't adore her. No I am not part of Sussex Squad who are batshit. Yes, she is flawed and made some very stupid mistakes. But she does not deserve the media bullying she has.

But to then spend the next five years justifying your first impression on a forum is a tad odd.

I have not missed the irony here, so need to post saying this is what I do. But my posts don't come from a place of loathing, or at best, dislike

Lots of British people, if not most, hated Kate - and her family - from when she first appeared. The papers wrote tons of nasty stuff about her and her family, which as she' so close to her parents, must have been quite hard for Kate to read and hear.
I think its natural that when someone unknown enters a family that many people feel like they have a stake in, that the public are overly interested. And lots of people took against her at first sight. I remember people mocking how she spoke at her wedding interview, saying that wasn't her real accent and she was just trying to be posh and above her station because her mum was just an air hostess. She wasn't the first it had happened to.
And Meghan got treated the same. It's not right but it's not unique to her.
Simply put, Kate stuck it out and turned the situation around. Meghan didn't.

At the point of the engagement interview I was fairly positive towards Meghan and thought it was exciting that a beautiful American actress was joining the Royal family.

I’d been a big fan of Suits and because I never register the real names of most actors unless they are superstars, when the papers announced he was dating an actress from Suits I googled her to see which of the main three Suits actresses she was.

Then I watched a few YouTube videos of her being interviewed on various US chat shows promoting Suits to get a sense of what she was like versus her character of Rachel.

I thought she seemed lovely, funny, natural very beautiful - and I can remember feeling very sorry for her that marrying Harry meant she had to give up her acting career just as she’d got her big break as a series regular.

However… there was something off and weird about both of them in that engagement interview. It was horribly cringy but hard to pin down exactly what was wrong.

I put it down to nerves because even though Meghan was very used to being interviewed on camera this was such a big and global moment that maybe she was a bit freaked out - and reacted by talking differently than normal and the tension caused all the weird body language.

Lots of people picked up on that it was a bit ‘off’ maybe some who had taken an instant dislike to her but there are many who were either indifferent at the time or like me who was quite a fan.

Or maybe they just thought that she came across as a little bit unauthentic, acted a little bit too affectedly coy, and wondered how she’d deal with the inevitable massive cultural clash she would face?

(Actually I was a big supporter of Meghan until much later. But I can absolutely see how someone could take that from the engagement interview because I liked her despite those factors I have mentioned above - she got a total pass from me because of how nervous she must have been, because she was from a completely different culture etc. But others may not have approached it from my angle, and nor are they required to).

I have an almost photographic memory and can remember the threads from 2016 and 2017.

I also remember after they left, and hundreds of posters screeching that the public would leave them alone if they paid back the Frogmore renovations and were not given security etc.

I said then, Even if they do pay back the renovations money, and even if they don't receive security, you will still be hounding them.

I was told, No, no one would talk about them as long as that happened. They are irrelevant etc etc.

Yet here we are.

Meghan and Harry are the best gift to the Royal family.

They exist to be disliked, to distract from things that the others do.

It's why they are included in all the daft polling even though they are private citizens.

They are the only private citizens in the world who are consistently polled on both sides of the Atlantic. And they are only polled in America because the DM needs that narrative of how unpopular they are. Otherwise, no American media organisation ever polls private citizens. Especially as the polling is always among potential voters, and is broken down on Rep and Dem lines.

Meghan and Harry continue to make the news even when there is no news about them because the tabloids, and the Royal family, for whom the tabloids are the propaganda arm, need someone to be less popular that the Queen Consort.

Oh yes @MrsMaxDeWinter

It was constant

Every time they fulfilled what posters were incandescent about, they invented something else.
I constantly talked of goalpost moving and saying 'what now?'

Even when it was reported they'd paid back this or that, they were called liars. Even when it showed up in the official Royal Report.
There was this (and still is) absolute desperation to paint them in the worst possible light ever.

I agree. This is a marvellous distraction for the actual King and Queen who really aren't that popular. Let's talk about evil Meghan and Harry instead.

I also remember after they left, and hundreds of posters screeching that the public would leave them alone if they paid back the Frogmore renovations and were not given security etc.

I said then, Even if they do pay back the renovations money, and even if they don't receive security, you will still be hounding them.

I was told, No, no one would talk about them as long as that happened. They are irrelevant etc etc.

Given that no posters here are psychic (or so I assume!) these comments would all have been made well before their business model became endlessly trashing the royal family though. That did rather change the perception of them (not just on here, but at large).

I also remember MN posters being adamant that they would not be producing a Netflix show all about themselves. Look how well that aged…

My favourite story, which I posted in our Press thread, is still from two months ago, where it was revealed that ....

.... wait for it ....

.... Meghan was the least hard working member of the royal Family over the last 10 years!!!!!

They had to measure her against others in a period in which she was not even a member of the family ... just too make two particular royals look more hard working than her!

I expect this will continue, and she will get slammed for making no royal appearances since she left!

Why in god's name she's included in these polls and how many engagements, I do not know.
Media are still trying to compare her with Kate. I hate the nonsense about same dress colour and only yesterday I listened to Tom Bower talking with the ghastly Wootton about Victoria in Oz pulling out the Commonwealth Games. It was ridiculous!

The whole reason Victoria pulled out is because of Meghan. You couldn't make it up. He actually said that! The reason the state of Victoria pulled out of the Games is down to Meghan
Nothing to do with Charles not stepping up, and not being popular in Australia.

He then went on to say how attractive Kate is and uttered the words 'Meghan, eat your heart out'.

Stupid buffoon with an obsession with Meghan.

No, it's not clear to me at all.

She had been absolutely full of praise for him, and portrayed the relationship as close, repeatedly, on The Tig.

Introducing your serious boyfriend to your father does not mean your sister gets involved in your life again, nor does it mean that you tell your father (or indeed anyone) stuff that you would find difficult if it leaked

I still don't see what happened to the love and appreciation in such a very short time.

oh seriously??? they're blaming her for Australia and the games thing? Oh boy they're really reaching on that one! Meghan eat your heart out? WTF? Such odious little misogynists.