Grifters indeed! Can we have a lift Joe?

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H&M asked if they could have a lift home on AF1 after HMQs funeral.
Environmentally friendly sure, but makes them look grabby and entitled again. Makes for a good story though.

Thank you, @Puzzledandpissedoff . It was particularly important to have George (Kent) loyal, as he was known to be good friends with Edward.

Or Wallis was a good excuse for Edward to escape his fate.

I thought George got the job because he was next in line? Isn't that how it works.

Edward didn't want to escape his fate. He wanted to be king. He was forced out.

https://www.theguardian.com/uk/2002/jun/29/research.monarchy
Some posters may find this of interest.
I apologise for detailing, but as you've gathered it's an area of personal interest to me!😊

Roussette · Today 15:52
Says the poster who rarely posts in the RF board yet swoops in to insult and launch a PA on another poster.
Perhaps you are the one who needs to 'grow up'?
Just a thought.

Really Roussette? How can you see my belief that Meghan married Harry for status etc. as a personal attack on YOU?
You may disagree violently with what I say, but I stand by my right to say it.

And neither of us really know, I think?

Nomoreheroics · Today 16:22
Well, Chelsea is very bright and Cressida doesn’t seem short of brains. I suspect Harry can seem quite good fun on first acquaintance. The stupidity and self absorption perhaps become apparent later.

Indeed. Both of them had the good sense to know he wasn't a "keeper".

There certainly are parallels in Meghan's outfit choices to Wallis. The Oprah interview she styled her hair in what looks like a similar style with the centre parting and waves. The white coat outfit a complete copy. She looked great but not sure what would motivate her to copy Wallis other than both are American divorcees.

I'm still wondering why Meghan had that copy of the Wallis coat dress made so that she could wear it to the Queen's platinum jubilee service 🤔
Wtf is that about?

I don’t think speculating about people’s marriage is ok. I thought Harry’s implication that he’s the only one who married for love in his family and his brother and father married for some other reason was really shitty.

I guess if that was ok with you, then you shouldn’t get your nose out of joint about him being subjected to similar speculation.

To misquote "one may step out with a prince, but you don't marry them"

@BadgerB
You're muddling posts up. Totally. I haven't said anything of the sort about you.

I would have thought this was an absolute conspiracy theory until I read about her just knowing Jill Biden was supporting her because …lemons!

We have a powder room with lemons on the wallpaper. I also currently have a lemon table runner on my dining room table and a porcelain centerpiece with stacked lemons. We also have a lemon tree on the patio and a bottle of limoncello in the freezer. Clearly it was me to whom FLOTUS was sending a message.

Oh well my mind reading isn't that good. I do know he wasn't exactly a hard working serious person and maybe saying, "I'm giving this up for the woman I love" probably sounded better than "I've enjoyed all the privileges of being heir to the throne but I can't actually be arsed to do the job."

Either way his father was reported as saying he'd ruin his life within 12 months of his father's death.

Historians seem to disagree about whether he actually wanted to be king. None of us actually know.

She supports you, @AliceOlive , in your lemony splendour!

In fact, I think Meghan was also sending me a message. I had these things prior to the Oprah interview.

Clearly it was me to whom FLOTUS was sending a message.

Haha @AliceOlive
I have a lemon in my fruit bowl at the mo, must remember to thank Jill for the support.

Seriously though, if anyone has an interpretation of Meghan's motivation for the Wallis coat dress that isn't to do with upsetting the Queen and/or diverting attention to herself, I would be interested to hear it.

@AliceOlive ... send her a calligraphy written note asking for your basket of lemons!

It’s hard to imagine it was anything else but seems also makes me feel a bit crazy to believe anyone would do that.

Perhaps Meghan thinks people send one another messages via their clothing choice because she has done it herself? 🤷‍♀️

Not wanting to derail but that is fascinating. I knew they were supposed to have Nazi sympathies (as did a number of the British aristocracy) but I didn't know about the affair and the fact that she actually passed information to them.

It’s hard to imagine it was anything else but seems also makes me feel a bit crazy to believe anyone would do that.

Ditto. Especially when it must have cost £000s. It does look like a very expensive "fuck you", which rather undermines all the claims of respect for the Queen, that they had a good relationship etc.

Maybe someone will be along shortly to suggest that actually it was a sign of loyalty, the Queen probably requested it, William and Kate encouraged the idea etc etc

You may be right.

Yes, it'll be their fault.

I think Edward was all their favourite brother. Certainly he was for Princess Mary. And I believe the same for Albert.
But where is the evidence that they considered putting either Henry or George on the throne instead of Albert. I'm not saying it doesn't exist but I have just never read that nor seen it any documentary. I've seen Albert didn't want to be king and Elizabeth resented Edward for it, but I have never seen that discussions were held to decide who should be the next king and they decided on Albert because both Henry and George were bad/worse people. Surely the siblings didn't say that - they were known for being a close family - so did the govt say that?

No, @Millicentsparty - sorry for my lack of clarity. When it became clear that Edward would abdicate, the PM of course met with Bertie. Concerned that he may be hesitant to take the throne, and fearful that Henry and George were perhaps sympathetic towards Edward, a summit was held at Windsor. The details were discussed with the three brothers. This had to be satisfactory to all parties in that they had to support Bertie. It became essential to present a united front and that all parties were clear.
Sorry for any previous misunderstanding as I didn't explain it well. I hope that makes sense!

I'd never heard that Baldwin went to Windsor to get the consent of Henry and George to support Albert. Although it seems understandable that he'd inform the three of them of what the govt was doing about the abdication.
So you're not saying that the govt were talking about skipping Albert to give the crown to one of the others?