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The royal family

£360k to Phillip!

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BarbieBunches · 14/07/2023 08:16

He got paid £360k for wandering around the world being a racist!!! Fuck me they truly do milk the cow don’t they 😳.

Camilla is not going to be paid - how will she get by? 🙄

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derxa · 20/07/2023 17:46

I’d be singing like a lintie 😂 My grannie used to say this. You must be Scottish

Maireas · 20/07/2023 17:51

FlouncetteLaFroth · 20/07/2023 15:50

He knew very well what he was signing up for.

Fair point.

And that could be said about anyone marrying into the royal family.

Except it isn’t taken well when you point out that others recently marrying into the RF protested otherwise. 🤷🏻‍♀️

Yes, I would think that if you're marrying into the royal family it makes sense to know what's involved.

FlouncetteLaFroth · 20/07/2023 18:28

I just might be derxa 😁

upinaballoon · 20/07/2023 18:56

Roussette · 20/07/2023 17:27

on the phone to HM every day and back to Windsor at weekends.

How on earth do people know these things?

In precisely the same way that they know for certain that he was a serial adulterer ???

IamSTARVING · 20/07/2023 19:06

Maireas · 20/07/2023 17:51

Yes, I would think that if you're marrying into the royal family it makes sense to know what's involved.

While I agree that we all need to figure out in advance what we are getting into, it is unreasonable to say that we should know in advance.

We prepare as much as possible before having children - read books, save, organise with work and partners etc.

Due dilligence. But the reality for having said children is usually many layers on top of what we knew but could not have anticipated. Death, job loss, lockdowns, illness, personal dynamics all play a roll that you cannot predict.

This is true for all of life. You can only do so much in advance. Then the real stuff happens!

IamSTARVING · 20/07/2023 19:09

Canthave2manycats · 20/07/2023 16:09

That really is some stretch!!

Not really though Canthave.

In a past life I attened many embassy events. The wives work really hard.

They do at least as much as the DoE and perhaps even more.

But they don't get paid. They don't even get recognition.

Maireas · 20/07/2023 19:10

Indeed, @IamSTARVING - I would imagine that marrying into the royal family would be a challenge, even if you were diligent and prepared and supported by a good spouse. The kind of life it might be wise to prepare well for, and over time. Perhaps even live below the parapet for a bit. Get to know the ropes.

IamSTARVING · 20/07/2023 19:14

jeffgoldblum · 20/07/2023 17:42

He was neither saint nor sinner , just a flawed human the same as us , his position made him more visible.

I agree.

But just as his position made it more visibe it also made him more privileged.

And the fact that he got paid from the public purse in private/secret is not on.

All allocation of public money needs to be trasnparent and open to scrutiny.

Gracewithoutend · 20/07/2023 20:35

IamSTARVING · 20/07/2023 15:33

Think about it for a momnet.

Their lives are in public scrutinity once the partner wins.

They become what people claim DoE was - a support to the leader and an important aide at all National and International social functions.

They represent not only the leader they are with but the country.

We exoect them to behave accordingly - not go looking for contracts for thei company, not sleep around, not get drunk if they feel like it etc. It is work. high profile, quite hard work.

Usually done by women.

As usual, not paid.

Nope. I don't agree. The PM is an elected figure. Their spouse is immaterial. They don't represent this country abroad. They don't have any official duties. If our PMs go to any official function, either here or abroad, no reference is ever made if their spouse is absent. We don't expect them to be involved in charities or get involved in non-profit organisations. I'm sure many do because they have areas of interest, like Carrie Johnson and animal welfare, but no one discusses it if they don't.
Of course their life has public scrutiny, but I guess that's discussed before the politician puts themselves forward for the role. But there are advantages to that intrusion, such as their spouse being able to earn large amounts of money when they retire from their role. They're pretty much set for life.
Being the spouse doesn't mean you can't sleep around. But as they're married, I can't feel any sympathy for them if they're caught and humiliated for doing so. Who cares if they get drunk? I'm pretty sure many of them did whilst married to a PM. But if they do it an inappropriate place, then they deserve opprobrium. They don't deserve paying to compensate them for having to stay sober. Just behave as every normal, respectful person does. It's not that blinkin hard.
None of these people equate in any way to Prince Philip and his role.

Roussette · 20/07/2023 20:50

I agree @Iwantcakeeveryday PP had no need for that money.

And this information has just been released. I just cannot get my head round it.

'Next year, the sovereign grant will remain unchanged at £86.3m. However, in 2025, the king’s public funding will increase by a projected £38.5m, giving the monarchy an annual stipend of £124.8m. In 2026, it will be £126m.

Details of the increase, which comes against the backdrop of a cost of living crisis, were contained in a review of royal funding published by the Treasury'

No wonder the RF put out about Camilla not receiving the £360,000 per year. No need! Just short of another £40M coming their way... £360K is chicken feed Shock

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2023/jul/20/king-charles-to-receive-huge-pay-rise-from-uk-taxpayers

King Charles to receive huge pay rise from UK taxpayers

Details published by Treasury show royal family’s grant is expected to increase from £86m to £125m in 2025

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2023/jul/20/king-charles-to-receive-huge-pay-rise-from-uk-taxpayers

CathyorClaire · 20/07/2023 21:28

Next year, the sovereign grant will remain unchanged at £86.3m. However, in 2025, the king’s public funding will increase by a projected £38.5m, giving the monarchy an annual stipend of £124.8m. In 2026, it will be £126m.

All facilitated by the magic of wind farms situated in off shore waters first identified as a claimable asset by the late queen who's always been touted as putting the country's interests first.

We always knew Chuck wasn't up for handing any of it back however many fell by the wayside but this is another level of jaw-dropping.

Puzzledandpissedoff · 20/07/2023 21:57

The (BP) spokesperson did not dispute that the sovereign grant would be £124.8m from 2025. However, she said that the increase would be “temporary, only for the financial years of 2025-6 and 2026-7” and would be used to complete renovation works at Buckingham Palace

Obvious question I know, but how can this be temporary when the SG arrangements involve a commitment for it never to go down?

IamSTARVING · 20/07/2023 23:05

Roussette · 20/07/2023 20:50

I agree @Iwantcakeeveryday PP had no need for that money.

And this information has just been released. I just cannot get my head round it.

'Next year, the sovereign grant will remain unchanged at £86.3m. However, in 2025, the king’s public funding will increase by a projected £38.5m, giving the monarchy an annual stipend of £124.8m. In 2026, it will be £126m.

Details of the increase, which comes against the backdrop of a cost of living crisis, were contained in a review of royal funding published by the Treasury'

No wonder the RF put out about Camilla not receiving the £360,000 per year. No need! Just short of another £40M coming their way... £360K is chicken feed Shock

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2023/jul/20/king-charles-to-receive-huge-pay-rise-from-uk-taxpayers

It is utterly jaw dropping.

The greed is so NAKED.

And yet the majority think that the royals suffer.

We must have spent close to a billion on them oin the last few years with maga celebrations.

BUT IT IS ONLY A PENNY A YEAR.

BarbieBunches · 20/07/2023 23:08

I saw that today - absolutely outrageous 🤬

Can we FINALLY drop the bullshit about how little the royals cost us? He’s a greedy greedy fucker.

Bread and circuses never rang so true 🤬

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Canthave2manycats · 20/07/2023 23:56

IamSTARVING · 20/07/2023 19:09

Not really though Canthave.

In a past life I attened many embassy events. The wives work really hard.

They do at least as much as the DoE and perhaps even more.

But they don't get paid. They don't even get recognition.

They may do it for a few years though, and they reap the benefits at the end of the stint.

Prince Philip did it for 73 years. A lifetime.

I haven't seen a lot of evidence of spouses of PMs working really hard. They make the most of the contacts and the influence to feather their own lucrative nests!

Canthave2manycats · 20/07/2023 23:59

IamSTARVING · 20/07/2023 23:05

It is utterly jaw dropping.

The greed is so NAKED.

And yet the majority think that the royals suffer.

We must have spent close to a billion on them oin the last few years with maga celebrations.

BUT IT IS ONLY A PENNY A YEAR.

I could not be arsed to care what the RF cost. Republics have celebrations too you know - 14 July, 4 July, 17 March. It makes not one single jot of difference to my daily life no matter what it costs.

I would not ever want to exist in the goldfish bowl scrutiny that attends being a member of the Royal Family, for their whole life long.

I'm more concerned about how we are all being screwed by our grasping, self-serving politicians!!

IamSTARVING · 21/07/2023 00:16

Canthave2manycats · 20/07/2023 23:56

They may do it for a few years though, and they reap the benefits at the end of the stint.

Prince Philip did it for 73 years. A lifetime.

I haven't seen a lot of evidence of spouses of PMs working really hard. They make the most of the contacts and the influence to feather their own lucrative nests!

You are right of course - they gain massive benefits (if they survive the public mauling!). And one hopes they make good money afterwards in a resonable and honest way.

BUT! So did he - the DoE.

I do not believe it was just hard sacrifice for him the whole way along.

I also really don't like that he was poaid in secret after he retired.

IamSTARVING · 21/07/2023 00:18

Canthave2manycats · 20/07/2023 23:59

I could not be arsed to care what the RF cost. Republics have celebrations too you know - 14 July, 4 July, 17 March. It makes not one single jot of difference to my daily life no matter what it costs.

I would not ever want to exist in the goldfish bowl scrutiny that attends being a member of the Royal Family, for their whole life long.

I'm more concerned about how we are all being screwed by our grasping, self-serving politicians!!

I'm more concerned about how we are all being screwed by our grasping, self-serving politicians!! as well as a grasping greedy king.

There - fixed that for you!

You should care how much they cost because it money out of the communal coffers.

Come on - you don't think they are greedy? Just a little?

Canthave2manycats · 21/07/2023 00:30

IamSTARVING · 21/07/2023 00:18

I'm more concerned about how we are all being screwed by our grasping, self-serving politicians!! as well as a grasping greedy king.

There - fixed that for you!

You should care how much they cost because it money out of the communal coffers.

Come on - you don't think they are greedy? Just a little?

I couldn't be arsed to care. I've way more important things going on in my life. I don't know if the King is greedy or grasping or not, and tbh I couldn't give a fuck, because he has no direct impact on my life.

If you're happy with politicians who are supposedly elected to serve the interests of the public, continually shafting us all, awarding contracts to their equally rich mates, carelessly consigning millions of people to a life of poverty with no way of lifting themselves out of it, wrecking the NHS/public services, making rules for the little people that don't apply to them, and laughing at us all behind our backs - well then you do you. The King doesn't have any power over any of that, and so I am disinclined to care. If the monarchy disappeared tomorrow, there would be no more money in either your or my pocket!

IamSTARVING · 21/07/2023 01:12

Canthave2manycats · 21/07/2023 00:30

I couldn't be arsed to care. I've way more important things going on in my life. I don't know if the King is greedy or grasping or not, and tbh I couldn't give a fuck, because he has no direct impact on my life.

If you're happy with politicians who are supposedly elected to serve the interests of the public, continually shafting us all, awarding contracts to their equally rich mates, carelessly consigning millions of people to a life of poverty with no way of lifting themselves out of it, wrecking the NHS/public services, making rules for the little people that don't apply to them, and laughing at us all behind our backs - well then you do you. The King doesn't have any power over any of that, and so I am disinclined to care. If the monarchy disappeared tomorrow, there would be no more money in either your or my pocket!

Fair enough.

I do care. About all of it.

I use my vote and hope it helps to contribute.

I hate corruption and dishonesty in public office and see this time as being rapacious.

I would also like to use use my vote on the RF though as I see them as part of that problem.

A few at the top wreaking it for everyone because they are greedy and "special".

BadgerB · 21/07/2023 06:00

Canthave2manycats · Today 00:30
I couldn't be arsed to care. I've way more important things going on in my life. I don't know if the King is greedy or grasping or not, and tbh I couldn't give a fuck, because he has no direct impact on my life.

If you're happy with politicians who are supposedly elected to serve the interests of the public, continually shafting us all, awarding contracts to their equally rich mates, carelessly consigning millions of people to a life of poverty with no way of lifting themselves out of it, wrecking the NHS/public services, making rules for the little people that don't apply to them, and laughing at us all behind our backs - well then you do you. The King doesn't have any power over any of that, and so I am disinclined to care. If the monarchy disappeared tomorrow, there would be no more money in either your or my pocket!

Absolutely agree.
It's far more important how we vote and how we scrutinize our politicians, who have far more influence over our lives.
It seems to me that the Royals are reasonable value for money - charities, tourism etc. And even if they were abolished they would still be extremely rich.

Roussette · 21/07/2023 06:49

BadgerB · 21/07/2023 06:00

Canthave2manycats · Today 00:30
I couldn't be arsed to care. I've way more important things going on in my life. I don't know if the King is greedy or grasping or not, and tbh I couldn't give a fuck, because he has no direct impact on my life.

If you're happy with politicians who are supposedly elected to serve the interests of the public, continually shafting us all, awarding contracts to their equally rich mates, carelessly consigning millions of people to a life of poverty with no way of lifting themselves out of it, wrecking the NHS/public services, making rules for the little people that don't apply to them, and laughing at us all behind our backs - well then you do you. The King doesn't have any power over any of that, and so I am disinclined to care. If the monarchy disappeared tomorrow, there would be no more money in either your or my pocket!

Absolutely agree.
It's far more important how we vote and how we scrutinize our politicians, who have far more influence over our lives.
It seems to me that the Royals are reasonable value for money - charities, tourism etc. And even if they were abolished they would still be extremely rich.

Why can't we care about more than one thing at once? I deeply care about the government, and am all over a politics thread and have been for years. I follow it closely

I really don't think a 45% increase for the Royals is 'reasonable value for money'.

Iwantcakeeveryday · 21/07/2023 08:26

IamSTARVING · 20/07/2023 23:05

It is utterly jaw dropping.

The greed is so NAKED.

And yet the majority think that the royals suffer.

We must have spent close to a billion on them oin the last few years with maga celebrations.

BUT IT IS ONLY A PENNY A YEAR.

I so agree, it is disgusting greed and especially at this time... I don't know how they aren't embarrassed and ashamed.

I also agree with you @Roussette we can and should care about more than one thing at one time, otherwise we would be prone to being easily distracted by whatever the media decides to focus on. The sovereign grant was a Tory thing, so its absolutely about politics for me, our life is about politics and how much money is given to one family, well that affects all our lives. Its our money.

CathyorClaire · 21/07/2023 10:04

It seems to me that the Royals are reasonable value for money - charities, tourism etc.

Royal patronage has been shown not to have much effect on donations and in any case some 3/4 of the charities don't see 'their' royal darken the door even once a year. The overwhelming majority of royal 'charity work' is on behalf of their own charities which in turn are often mirroring work already being being done by existing charities and arguably diverting their income streams.

The tourism myth has been done to death. There are no independent quantifiable figures proving an effect.

CathyorClaire · 21/07/2023 10:09

He’s a greedy greedy fucker.

Exactly this.

The apple certainly didn't drop far from the tree:

https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2021/feb/05/how-the-queen-came-to-own-the-seabed-around-britain

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