£360k to Phillip!

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He got paid £360k for wandering around the world being a racist!!! Fuck me they truly do milk the cow don’t they 😳.

Camilla is not going to be paid - how will she get by? 🙄

It is a bit disingenuous to say we have only just found out about Philips annuity. Camilla will be paid out of the Royal Sovereign grant as other royal members. Previously it probably came from Duchy of Cornwall funds. All this is published in accounts annually. Just media stirring as usual. Anyone who wanted to find out the monarchs spouse annuity could have found it out.

This allowance was in addition and paid when he was no longer 'working'. We ahve only just found out about this specific allowance and the terms of it.

The sovereigns spouse does a huge amount of public service and are massive contributors to tourism.

Can you provide figures for the tourism contribution please?

If you read my post you will see that I didn’t minimise his racism - i merely pointed out that someone else is guilty of it too. So don’t try to put words in my mouth please.

I am not implying that racism isn’t a big deal - I have been exposed to it all my life - so don’t try and accuse me of thinking it isn’t a big deal. It is.

YOU don’t know ME.

But as is ever present on here, words get twisted to deflect from Harry having used racist language as an insult. He did.

He may well be sorry. He may well be working on it. It doesn’t change what he said for me.

He used the same unacceptable language as his grandfather - worse in my opinion as it was a direct insult rather than an exceptionally poor choice of derogatory and racist language and stupid stereotypes to try to be funny which misfired and rightly so.

And yet, after all of the criticism rightly directed at his grandfather, Harry STILL chose to dress in a Nazi uniform and use the racist language as a nasty insult. Not just once. Anyone with an ounce of intelligence would have thought that isn’t acceptable and been determined to learn and grow and be determined not to be racist. Not Harry though.

I wonder how sorry he would have been if he hadn’t married Meghan.

He will be remembered as a man who repeatedly made racist remarks…

And that is exactly what I think about Harry. Because he did.

I responded to your own words where you casually brush aside Phillips actual racist remarks to deflect to Harry, who has apologised and moved on from remarks he made as a younger person. Phillip, who this thread is about, never did. If you don't want to be accused of minimising racism, then don't minimise it. I read your words and the way you remarked on poc like myself who have mentioned it here and I did not need to twist anything:

*And not a surprise to see the usual cries of he was racist.

Conveniently forgetting about Harry’s ventures into that playground of course….*

'Usual cries' implies it shouldn't be raised and it is no big deal. Nobody has forgotten anyone else's racism because they are discussing Phillips, on a thread about Phillip.

And yet you say in many other threads that comparison is ok and in keeping with the thread even if it is switched from certain members being full on grifters to nipping at other members of the RF. because that is ok?

The thread is about Phillip and the money he received. Not about racism and yet that has been accepted as a deflection. Racism is abhorrent and Harry is equally guilty.

You can twist my words as much as you like. I explained what I meant.

You can say my words imply this or that but you don’t want to understand what I am saying. Fine. But twisting my words is unfair and unacceptable.

I have no idea what colour people on here are - just as you don’t seem to realise that I too am a person of colour.

Which is why I will remember Harry as a racist.

Because to me, he is. I won’t forget what he said and will bring it up as often as I see fit. And if it is ok on here to discuss Phillip’s racist remarks then we can also discuss Harry’s racism.

I don’t care to engage with those who have an agenda and have one rule for themselves and then try to police threads when others meander similarly.

I agree. Phillip's was constant and was always put down to 'trying to be funny'. Like that makes it alright

yes and the crucial point is he never changed and did not apologise or show remorse. I tend to take someone at their word when they apologise and clearly change for the better and no longer engage in the former behaviour. Otherwise you would never forgive our give someone room to grow. Harry has shown remorse and growth. Phillip died as a racist who never changed.

And no one took him aside to say... 'look, you might just want to rein in the daft comments focussing on people's ethnicities'
Maybe they did, but I doubt it.

He had free rein to say what he wanted, and never even tried to change.

I think he was used to doing and saying whatever he wanted... I doubt anyone told him to his face he was a racist or was saying racist things.

I imagine it was much like pulling Andrew aside and telling him to shape up! When he was challenged he said 'I only answer to the Queen' and as she was as soft as butter with him, he had free rein.
Well... Phillip was married to her, so obviously it was much the same.

Yep, that’s how the bbc is funded

Its fully transparent what they spend on things though, they're answerable to the government and public in a way Phillip wasn't. He certainly did not work the same as tv presenters. In addition they don't have all their expenses and housing paid for on top of their wage.

The excuses made for Harry's racist remarks are ridiculous. He called people P and rag* The people on the receiving end did not see any humour as far as I could tell from film footage. DH and I are in our early 60s. If DH had used language like that when we met in the 80s I would have binned him straight away

There are no excuses being made for what he said. The point is, if someone recognises their behaviour and is remorseful and changes, that is quite different from someone who never apologises or changes. Stop pretending that is a defence in any way of racism.

I'm not defending any racist remarks from anyone. What evidence is there that Harry is 'remorseful' He never thinks he does anything wrong as far as I can see.

Quite derxa

I think he was used to doing and saying whatever he wanted... I doubt anyone told him to his face he was a racist or was saying racist things.

I think the same comment applies equally to Harry.

And as for “never apologising”? Not entirely true about Prince Phillip. So why isn’t he given the same cuttings as Harry?

Both have apologised for past racist remarks. We have no way of knowing if any of them were truly remorseful.

Both in his book, the series and in interviews he has spoken about his past racist comments and his remorse, and the work he knows he still has to do around unconscious bias. Im'm surprised you are unaware of the numerous times he's spoken or written about it.
No you're not defending racism, you implied I am. Which I have not and would not do.

Funny how Harry never realised until Meghan told him...

Both in his book, the series and in interviews he has spoken about his past racist comments and his remorse, and the work he knows he still has to do around unconscious bias. Im'm surprised you are unaware of the numerous times he's spoken or written about it.
https://edition.cnn.com/2020/10/02/uk/prince-harry-meghan-racism-bhm-gbr-intl-scli/index.html

Is this the sort of thing you mean? He doesn't say 'I'm sorry for calling my fellow soldier a P*' though.

Do you feel the same horror Derxa about PPhillips continual racist comments that he never walked back on, until forced to for the odd one here and there?
Curious

Or was he just like a funny uncle with inappropriate gaffes, and he was only kidding? It was just a mischevious sense of humour perhaps? He did seem quite proud of his gaffes, and actually boasted about them once.

I am wondering because you seem so so cross about the stupid two things Harry said (and yes he was a fool), you must feel the same about PPhillip too surely?

Its interesting isn't it, because this thread is about Phillip and because people discussed his racism, which some posters took umbrage with, posters will now drag Harrys up and want to go over when and how he apologised but are ignoring Phillips racist comments despite him being the thread topic.

I do actually feel the same disgust at PP's remarks but I don't class the remarks Harry made as 'stupid things'.