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Omid Scobie writing tell all book

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CosmosQueen · 29/06/2023 07:23

The biographer of the Duke and Duchess of Sussexwarned that his next book will reveal moments that the Royal family should be “ashamed of”.
Omid Scobie claimed he was one of few journalists writing about the Royal family whose work was impartial and “spin-free”

As such, he said his forthcoming book, provocatively titled Endgame: Inside the Royal Family and the Monarchy’s Fight for Survival, would focus on the negative as much as the positive and would shine a light on “unsolved mysteries”
“Endgame not only looks at the successes of our Royal family but also the failures; the things to be proud of and those they should be ashamed of,” he wrote in the I newspaper

Just when will this end? I feel so sorry for their poor children who will have to live with the knowledge that their parents and his obnoxious individual were prepared to do anything to make money.

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AliceOlive · 09/07/2023 03:43

Annalisea · 09/07/2023 03:31

My point was that she felt she wasn’t being paid for ‘work’. Not recognising that her whole lifestyle was the payment in itself.

What a culture shock it must have been. And how would Harry even know the difference to explain it?

Annalisea · 09/07/2023 03:44

AliceOlive · 09/07/2023 03:43

What a culture shock it must have been. And how would Harry even know the difference to explain it?

Exactly.

Howsimplywonderful · 09/07/2023 08:59

AliceOlive · 09/07/2023 03:43

What a culture shock it must have been. And how would Harry even know the difference to explain it?

TQ offered Sophie to help Meghan but she said no

costacoughee · 09/07/2023 10:35

Don't forget the 30 page document provided on royal protocol

Puzzledandpissedoff · 09/07/2023 11:45

TQ offered Sophie to help Meghan but she said no

Don't forget the 30 page document provided on royal protocol

Were either of those actually true? They sound to me like "something somebody said", though admittedly the palace would have to monumentally stupid not to offer help given what's happened to so many royal marriages to "outsiders"

Then again they often are monumentally stupid, so who knows?

Roussette · 09/07/2023 11:50

Puzzledandpissedoff · 09/07/2023 11:45

TQ offered Sophie to help Meghan but she said no

Don't forget the 30 page document provided on royal protocol

Were either of those actually true? They sound to me like "something somebody said", though admittedly the palace would have to monumentally stupid not to offer help given what's happened to so many royal marriages to "outsiders"

Then again they often are monumentally stupid, so who knows?

Who knows!

Something only has to be mentioned in the media, with no official royal source, and it becomes fact on here!

Puzzledandpissedoff · 09/07/2023 11:52

Something only has to be mentioned in the media, with no official royal source, and it becomes fact on here!

Tell me about it Sad

Maireas · 09/07/2023 11:58

I find it highly unlikely that Meghan was offered no help and support. She said in the engagement interview how kind and helpful other royals had been. I doubt very much that they wanted her to fail - apart from anything else, it would (and did) look terrible for them.

AliceOlive · 09/07/2023 12:10

Howsimplywonderful · 09/07/2023 08:59

TQ offered Sophie to help Meghan but she said no

I believe, based on how everything unfolded and the nature of HMQ that they offered all kinds of assistance. That it was not thought to be needed. Maybe it felt insulting at the time. But that is perhaps the nature of some forms of culture shock; you don’t know what you don’t know.

I have seen this in marriage actually. Even two people who come from what would appear to be very similar backgrounds will have families that did so things differently. How would you know until really in the thick of it? It may seem like common sense, but I don’t think so.

AliceOlive · 09/07/2023 12:13

Maireas · 09/07/2023 11:58

I find it highly unlikely that Meghan was offered no help and support. She said in the engagement interview how kind and helpful other royals had been. I doubt very much that they wanted her to fail - apart from anything else, it would (and did) look terrible for them.

Yes and there is all kinds of evidence. Charles walking Meghan down the aisle. The Queen’s public engagements with Meghan. I remember reading at the time that it was unusual. I thought it was very sweet and tried to imagine what it must feel like to find yourself, a little American girl now grown up and sitting next to the Queen of England.

Mackerson · 09/07/2023 13:37

Puzzledandpissedoff · 09/07/2023 11:45

TQ offered Sophie to help Meghan but she said no

Don't forget the 30 page document provided on royal protocol

Were either of those actually true? They sound to me like "something somebody said", though admittedly the palace would have to monumentally stupid not to offer help given what's happened to so many royal marriages to "outsiders"

Then again they often are monumentally stupid, so who knows?

Giles Brandreth said that TQ had offered Sophie. He was friendly with TQ so I don't think he'd say it if he didn't know it to be true. Or at the very least he'd put a caveat on it.
Who knows about the dossier but it was quite specific about the two sections she'd contacted people from. And Lane Fox never denied it but then, would he? And Harry never denied it on any of his interviews. But then is it worth denying?
That's the problem if you go down the route of denying and challenging things, it leads people to believe true the things you don't deny.

Puzzledandpissedoff · 09/07/2023 13:41

That's the problem if you go down the route of denying and challenging things, it leads people to believe true the things you don't deny

How very true, Mackerson

As said earlier I can well believe help was offered, purely because they'd be even more stupid than they already appear not to ... I only wondered if there was anything to back this, or if it was supposition

costacoughee · 11/07/2023 08:39

Also read the other day the simple phrase 'lies unchallenged become the truth'.

Which makes a firm connection with the palace statement rebutting the claims made on Oprah and the famous recollection may vary statement. Sound logic.

googlejourney · 11/07/2023 18:27

Of course she was offered help, they genuinely wanted the troubled prince to be happy and settled. Meghan and Harry could have been the ultimate modern monarchy success story. The shot show it turned into isn't a good look for the RF and the last thing they wanted.

Talk of Meghan being too popular and the RF turning on her because she got more headlines than they did etc. is absolutely ludicrous.

TheCrystalPalace · 11/07/2023 18:39

Why do people think Meghan refused Sophie's help (if, indeed, she did)?

Maireas · 11/07/2023 18:42

I think she probably thought she was ok with Harry's guidance.

user01082312345 · 11/07/2023 18:49

What I don't understand is when she said she felt suicidal the night they were scheduled to appear at the Royal Albert Hall during her pregnancy, and confessed to Harry how she was feeling. Why on earth didn't Harry seek immediate help for her?? Makes no sense.

Maireas · 11/07/2023 19:12

I've no idea, @oldblighty27 . Nobody, least of all Harry, has explained why he never got help for her. Why he didn't immediately phone or message someone. Why he didn't contact her Consultant Obstetrician or anyone on the midwifery team at the Portland, to whom they were paying ££££ for top service. Instead - get dressed up and go out. We've talked about it on these threads before, and no-one can explain why.

costacoughee · 11/07/2023 19:13

To be honest none of it makes sense. To say the royal family were planting stories about you and your wife, when it was more in their interest to make the relationship successful makes no sense.

The RF know their existence depends on public goodwill. To have a biracial woman on the team in a multicultural country would have been icing on the cake

For W&K another couple they got along with and worked well with would have halved their workload and kept the family relevant. Win win.

Meghan was offered a shedload of help and a 30 page instruction manual to help her succeed because it was in everyone's interest she did.

They were more popular purely because they were shiny and new W&K knew that would have settled down and it would have been mutually supportive.

The M&H narrative doesn't make any sense.

user01082312345 · 11/07/2023 19:14

Maireas · 11/07/2023 19:12

I've no idea, @oldblighty27 . Nobody, least of all Harry, has explained why he never got help for her. Why he didn't immediately phone or message someone. Why he didn't contact her Consultant Obstetrician or anyone on the midwifery team at the Portland, to whom they were paying ££££ for top service. Instead - get dressed up and go out. We've talked about it on these threads before, and no-one can explain why.

Yeah, if one of my loved ones, especially if they were heavily pregnant, told me something like that, I would be horrified! I would call 999 if I had to. It was coincidentally the night she was booed... I'm thinking they wanted to make people feel bad for that, so invented that story.

Maireas · 11/07/2023 19:18

I was at the Portland. The consultant phoned me at home because I'd expressed anxiety to a midwife at an appointment. They offered me ante natal counselling as part of the package. You can literally get help from them at any time.
If not that - he was part of Heads Together, plus he had therapy- was that person not available?

Maireas · 11/07/2023 19:20

I genuinely don't know how Meghan could put up with a husband who didn't support her when she was at her lowest ebb. It didn't suprise me to read in Spare how he thought it amusing that he'd finished off the gas and air when she was in labour. What a catch.

AliceOlive · 11/07/2023 20:28

TheCrystalPalace · 11/07/2023 18:39

Why do people think Meghan refused Sophie's help (if, indeed, she did)?

When I refuse help it's due to my ego. Or to not wanting to be any trouble. But more often, ego.

TheCrystalPalace · 11/07/2023 21:43

See, if I was at a low ebb or feeling suicidal, I think I'd ask my husband for help and guidance as to where to go, not go on international TV and slate the in-laws for not acting.

StartupRepair · 11/07/2023 22:04

I think Meghan thought she was more famous and important than Sophie and would be a more high profile royal. She didn't see how Sophie after her initial fiasco put her head down and rebuilt her reputation.

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