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Omid Scobie writing tell all book

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CosmosQueen · 29/06/2023 07:23

The biographer of the Duke and Duchess of Sussexwarned that his next book will reveal moments that the Royal family should be “ashamed of”.
Omid Scobie claimed he was one of few journalists writing about the Royal family whose work was impartial and “spin-free”

As such, he said his forthcoming book, provocatively titled Endgame: Inside the Royal Family and the Monarchy’s Fight for Survival, would focus on the negative as much as the positive and would shine a light on “unsolved mysteries”
“Endgame not only looks at the successes of our Royal family but also the failures; the things to be proud of and those they should be ashamed of,” he wrote in the I newspaper

Just when will this end? I feel so sorry for their poor children who will have to live with the knowledge that their parents and his obnoxious individual were prepared to do anything to make money.

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Iwantcakeeveryday · 08/07/2023 08:30

Maireas · 08/07/2023 08:25

Yes, so they weren't short of funds.

'he paid for'... What would normally happen in a proper job, is people would get a salary. For some strange reason the royal institution doesn't work like that. All the money is given to the monarch and the heir inherits property they can rely on and share with their family. It then means people can say, 'Charles paid for Meghan's dresses', but that sounds like he's being generous or she's relying on him. She performed a role and function that required a certain level of clothing and that is covered by the funds the family has and is intended for all of them, not just Charles. It's a bad way in modern times for them to operate.

Maireas · 08/07/2023 08:32

No. That's my point - of course they were paid for. Of course they were subsidised - they were doing a job.
It's right thay they were.
How anyone can claim that they weren't paid, or funded just seems strange.

Samcro · 08/07/2023 08:40

being paid implies getting a wage. not just waiting for hand outs.
you say they were doing a job, did they get paid? funded/subsidised is different.

Maireas · 08/07/2023 08:42

Do the others get a wage?
I'm not saying H and M should have done it all for free, but let's not pretend they were doing it all for nowt.

DollyTheFluffyOne · 08/07/2023 08:42

Iwantcakeeveryday · 08/07/2023 08:25

I think the number of posts deleted shows that people are not mindful of the repeated warnings. As I posted it, I should know what the intention was and I made the point I intended to. This board is not the same since Harry married Meghan, its simply turned into what the board used to complain about.

I understand and maybe people choose to post certain things. I just don't think that it is anyone's job on here to point it out. What are we told? Report it.

EdithWeston · 08/07/2023 08:48

They don't get wages as such.

They get official duties fully funded (not sure how far that extends to clothing) and their houses (and if they qualify, security)

Then they have private income - directly themselves from inheritance or other gifts, or from support from a parent via their Duchy (late HMQ using Lancaster fund herself and her DC and presumably their DC, except the Wales who were funded by Duchy of Cornwall). That covers clothes, school fees, ponies, hobbies, holidays etc, and presumably pocket money

I don't think any of them are short of money, even though none of them are waged or receive performance fees

costacoughee · 08/07/2023 08:49

As a Spotify executive has come out and said the couple were grifters (so presumably lazy) and Netflix is kicking off because of lack of content, I can see why performing royal duties was just too much like hard work

For all the ribbon cutting I'm sure a lot of work goes on behind the scenes to insure they understand the charity and it's work. It's also usually not very glamorous in real life.

EdithWeston · 08/07/2023 08:50

Oh, and when they do received wages (because it's too administratively difficult not to be paid such as when in the Armed Forces) they usually donate the salary - William and Harry both donated theirs to veterans charities

Annalisea · 08/07/2023 08:54

costacoughee · 08/07/2023 08:49

As a Spotify executive has come out and said the couple were grifters (so presumably lazy) and Netflix is kicking off because of lack of content, I can see why performing royal duties was just too much like hard work

For all the ribbon cutting I'm sure a lot of work goes on behind the scenes to insure they understand the charity and it's work. It's also usually not very glamorous in real life.

Meghan was used to being paid for work and I don’t think she could get her head around having to work for nothing as she saw it in the RF. she also clearly resented and restrictions on her behaviour. Harry just wasn’t used to working. His Army days were over years before and he was used to having time to do exactly what he felt like . Now they are both essentially unemployed and living off Harry’s inheritance plus their income for selling the family dirty laundry .

Milcar · 08/07/2023 08:57

'work for nothing' - i.e. they get millions that are not aligned to delivering any work as part of the RF.

Unfortunately businesses such as Spotify expect content to be delivered in return for their money.

Howsimplywonderful · 08/07/2023 08:59

Meghan did retain her US agent (who did not co-ordinate with her Royal office so Meghan was often unable to do ‘royal duties’ as she was already engaged via her US agent.

Very handy excuse if you didn’t fancy cutting a ribbon in Hull for an old folks home .

She’s wasn’t happy not to be paid as actors get paid for appearances (in her pre royal world)

It was a clash of cultures.

Maireas · 08/07/2023 09:00

She didn't "work for nothing" in the Royal Family. See posts upthread about funding and subsidised lifestyles.

Maireas · 08/07/2023 09:02

You're right about their current income, @Annalisea , although Harry did say in the Oprah interview (and maybe elsewhere?) that he didn't want to spend his mother's inheritance which is why he was upset when Charles cut him off.

Viviennemary · 08/07/2023 09:02

They are a selfish pair on the make. Netflix Spotify and the rest were idiots to think they were accomplished producers. They are not, never were and never will be.

costacoughee · 08/07/2023 09:07

@Annalisea Unfortunately for them the selling out of Harry's family followed the law of diminishing returns. They have very little left to sell and quite frankly, no one believes anything they say. Their understanding of truth doesn't seem to be related to actual facts.

Their mutual lack of talent in the areas they now need to excel is being exposed on a daily basis.

Their only claim to fame is the BRF hence hanging on to titles and awarding their children titles. The future is not looking bright.

Howsimplywonderful · 08/07/2023 09:10

Spotify and Netflix took a chance, I must admit their agents did a great job presenting them as intelligent go getters.

Other people have made the leap to producing but H&M weren’t up to it. They’re lucky they’re not going to be pushing shopping carts around as they have large wealth. They just need to spend it more carefully to make sure it doesn’t run out

They’re just not Hollywood a list material and once they wrap their heads around that they’ll be fine

costacoughee · 08/07/2023 09:15

Meghan entire adult life was based on becoming an a lister. Harry's idea of himself is of an a lister based in his family connection. They will never settle for a quiet life. They need to be influential so I suspect Meghan will turn to politics. With presidents like trump and Biden it may actually be possible.

Maireas · 08/07/2023 09:20

Do you think politics, @costacoughee ? You have to have a very thick skin!

costacoughee · 08/07/2023 09:25

@Maireas - indeed! She is very thin skinned, but she doesn't think things through and seems rather divorced from reality. Clearly never heard of fact checking 😂😂😂

Novella4 · 08/07/2023 09:42

EdithWeston · 08/07/2023 08:48

They don't get wages as such.

They get official duties fully funded (not sure how far that extends to clothing) and their houses (and if they qualify, security)

Then they have private income - directly themselves from inheritance or other gifts, or from support from a parent via their Duchy (late HMQ using Lancaster fund herself and her DC and presumably their DC, except the Wales who were funded by Duchy of Cornwall). That covers clothes, school fees, ponies, hobbies, holidays etc, and presumably pocket money

I don't think any of them are short of money, even though none of them are waged or receive performance fees

“They don’t get wages as such…’”..

Thats one way to describe the 1 billion they take from the state- and no, the Duchys are not their private property ( that’s according to the ‘royals’ themselves whn the tax man asks questions )
The crown estate is also not their property

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/ng-interactive/2023/apr/05/revealed-royals-took-more-than-1bn-income-from-controversial-estates-king-charles-queen-duchies-cornwall-lancaster#:~:text=King%20Charles%20and%20the%20late%20Queen%20Elizabeth%20II%20have%20received,given%20to%20the%20public%20instead.

Revealed: royals took more than £1bn income from controversial estates

Investigation reveals King Charles and the late queen’s income from duchies grew sixteenfold during Elizabeth’s reign

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/ng-interactive/2023/apr/05/revealed-royals-took-more-than-1bn-income-from-controversial-estates-king-charles-queen-duchies-cornwall-lancaster#:~:text=King%20Charles%20and%20the%20late%20Queen%20Elizabeth%20II%20have%20received,given%20to%20the%20public%20instead.

Maireas · 08/07/2023 10:00

Indeed, @Novella4 - so for anyone of them to claim that they "should be paid for this" (which is the alleged remark of Meghan's) is clearly ridiculous.

Puzzledandpissedoff · 08/07/2023 10:20

Unfortunately, @Novella4, their definition as to whether the duchies are private property or not changes according to what suits (covered in detail in "And What Do You do?" among other sources)

As for them spreading the Sovereign Grant around to cover costs, unfortunately it very often fails to work like that ... too often they'll try to get others to fund whatever-it-is on top of what they've already been paid in order to keep more of it for themselves

Even the late Queen was at it with her attempts to get a deprivation fund to pay for palace heating and Charles's financial shenanigans with the Duchy of Cornwall were notorious, so I wouldn't want to assume he paid for Meghan's clothing without proof

WinnieTheW0rm · 08/07/2023 10:22

"They don’t get wages as such…’”..

"Thats one way to describe [it]"

Yes, and chosen because it was following on from the posts about wages.

EdithWeston · 08/07/2023 10:24

Glad someone got why I posted!!

Annalisea · 09/07/2023 03:31

Maireas · 08/07/2023 09:00

She didn't "work for nothing" in the Royal Family. See posts upthread about funding and subsidised lifestyles.

My point was that she felt she wasn’t being paid for ‘work’. Not recognising that her whole lifestyle was the payment in itself.

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