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Omid Scobie writing tell all book

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CosmosQueen · 29/06/2023 07:23

The biographer of the Duke and Duchess of Sussexwarned that his next book will reveal moments that the Royal family should be “ashamed of”.
Omid Scobie claimed he was one of few journalists writing about the Royal family whose work was impartial and “spin-free”

As such, he said his forthcoming book, provocatively titled Endgame: Inside the Royal Family and the Monarchy’s Fight for Survival, would focus on the negative as much as the positive and would shine a light on “unsolved mysteries”
“Endgame not only looks at the successes of our Royal family but also the failures; the things to be proud of and those they should be ashamed of,” he wrote in the I newspaper

Just when will this end? I feel so sorry for their poor children who will have to live with the knowledge that their parents and his obnoxious individual were prepared to do anything to make money.

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costacoughee · 07/07/2023 11:25

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She could have taken time to learn once married though, but I've always believed (and again that's a belief not a know) that from the very start it was a case of get the ring / get the title / get out to more lucrative things, and that the undoubted disadvantages were massively exaggerated to justify it. * * A fair and reasonable assessment. Harry no doubt wanted to rush things too before the poor woman saw the reality of royal life rather than the glamour

Iwantcakeeveryday · 07/07/2023 11:38

if they're not relevant, why is this board dedicated to talking about them every day? Why have you just joined and written so many comments about them on various threads? They certainly seem relevant to you.

costacoughee · 07/07/2023 11:41

@Iwantcakeeveryday if you feel they are relevant then that's good. I don't. It's my opinion nothing more or less.

VegetablesFightingToReclaimTheAubergieneEmoji · 07/07/2023 11:43

Roussette · 07/07/2023 10:13

Whilst they may not have liked her, to actively want her to fail is unlikely because of the repercussions for themselves

I don't think for one minute they wanted her to fail. However, I believe she entered an archaic institution that hadn't changed much for 70 years (whilst HMQ was Monarch) and they just did not know what to do with a divorced American bi-racial empowered career woman. I think they were in a complete tailspin. There were probably faults on both sides, but I imagine (just my take on it) royal family practices are set in stone and can't change without endless meetings over years pontificating. It's not exactly a flexible Institution is it... Sarah F couldn't cope with it, nor could Diana.

didnt know what to do with her?
she agreed to enter the family business, by agreeing her path was sort of set. Although the relationship was quick, it wasn’t that quick for her to realise what the job is. So whilst I can see her being confused about protocol or how and why things are done the way they are. Ultimately she was joining the existing family business.

I joined one once and found it fucking frustrating, they took on some of my ideas and kept some of their bizarre ones.

Iwantcakeeveryday · 07/07/2023 12:31

The job doesn't have to involve withstanding press intrusion, racism, misogyny or collaboration with the other royal offices though. It's not what should be required. I think it's a sign of strength to know your worth and to not tolerate the kind of treatment. She didn't leave because the actual job was too much, it was the treatment she was subjected to.

Iwantcakeeveryday · 07/07/2023 12:31

costacoughee · 07/07/2023 11:41

@Iwantcakeeveryday if you feel they are relevant then that's good. I don't. It's my opinion nothing more or less.

You wouldn't be commenting on them so much if they were not relevant to you.

VegetablesFightingToReclaimTheAubergieneEmoji · 07/07/2023 12:40

Iwantcakeeveryday · 07/07/2023 12:31

The job doesn't have to involve withstanding press intrusion, racism, misogyny or collaboration with the other royal offices though. It's not what should be required. I think it's a sign of strength to know your worth and to not tolerate the kind of treatment. She didn't leave because the actual job was too much, it was the treatment she was subjected to.

I do agree no one should have to tolerate any sort of abuse in the work place. It does sadly come with the celeb culture though. I do think if they’d stuck it out, it would have settled down. It did for catherine, it did for camilla, it did for fergie and Diana.

Samcro · 07/07/2023 12:42

when looking for old threads, please remember back in the penguin days a lot were deleted.

skullbabe · 07/07/2023 12:52

😱there’s a name from the past!

Mylovelygreendress · 07/07/2023 13:24

Iwantcakeeveryday · 07/07/2023 12:31

The job doesn't have to involve withstanding press intrusion, racism, misogyny or collaboration with the other royal offices though. It's not what should be required. I think it's a sign of strength to know your worth and to not tolerate the kind of treatment. She didn't leave because the actual job was too much, it was the treatment she was subjected to.

Sorry to disagree again but H and M left because the late Queen wouldn’t agree to their half in half out proposal

Onprozacandmyhighhorse · 07/07/2023 13:31

Iwantcakeeveryday · 07/07/2023 11:06

The funniest was this, like others there's little engagement on the thread, but its referring to other sites being crackers and sadly it didn't take long for this one to join them!

https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/the_royal_family/1977697-Those-royal-gossip-forums-are-crackers

I don't understand this. This is quoting a post from 2014, I thought Harry and Meghan didn't get together until 2016 so how would this refer to them?

Roussette · 07/07/2023 13:31

@WinnieTheW0rm

I don't understand. A board is a forum... what do you mean by this below?
"The poster who introduced this theme was talking about threads in this board
And it's pretty clear that the sentence you've quoted above is aboutlooking back in the royal topic"

I am not deliberately accusing you of anything! I am at a loss. I used to be on bulletin boards years ago, they evolved into forums. I don't know what you mean by a 'board'.

VegetablesFightingToReclaimTheAubergieneEmoji · 07/07/2023 13:35

Mylovelygreendress · 07/07/2023 13:24

Sorry to disagree again but H and M left because the late Queen wouldn’t agree to their half in half out proposal

That’s true. Had they been allowed to pick and chose they would have put up with the intrusion

Iwantcakeeveryday · 07/07/2023 14:01

Mylovelygreendress · 07/07/2023 13:24

Sorry to disagree again but H and M left because the late Queen wouldn’t agree to their half in half out proposal

the proposal came about because of press intrusion, racism, misogyny etc so the actual act of leaving, to any degree, was for the reasons outlined.

Mylovelygreendress · 07/07/2023 14:06

Iwantcakeeveryday · 07/07/2023 14:01

the proposal came about because of press intrusion, racism, misogyny etc so the actual act of leaving, to any degree, was for the reasons outlined.

Hmmm did you actually read the statement they posted ( before they spoke to HM) ? You know the one where they said they would collaborate (!) with HM ?? They had it all worked out - goodbye boring visits to factories in the rain , hello film premiers , tiaras and £££££££.

smilesy · 07/07/2023 14:07

Iwantcakeeveryday · 07/07/2023 14:01

the proposal came about because of press intrusion, racism, misogyny etc so the actual act of leaving, to any degree, was for the reasons outlined.

What about continuing to “collaborate” with the Queen, though? How would that have got them away from the things you list above? They would still have had press attention if they had continued to work on her behalf as they stated they wanted to. And potentially misogyny and racism as well 🤷‍♀️

myrtleWilson · 07/07/2023 14:11

Roussette · 07/07/2023 13:31

@WinnieTheW0rm

I don't understand. A board is a forum... what do you mean by this below?
"The poster who introduced this theme was talking about threads in this board
And it's pretty clear that the sentence you've quoted above is aboutlooking back in the royal topic"

I am not deliberately accusing you of anything! I am at a loss. I used to be on bulletin boards years ago, they evolved into forums. I don't know what you mean by a 'board'.

@Roussette i think you and @WinnieTheW0rm are talking at cross purposes . She is following the convention that MN is the forum/website but the individual talk topics are referred to as 'boards' so TRF is a board, FWR/Sex and Gender is a board whereas you're referring to MN in its totality as the board?

Roussette · 07/07/2023 14:17

myrtleWilson · 07/07/2023 14:11

@Roussette i think you and @WinnieTheW0rm are talking at cross purposes . She is following the convention that MN is the forum/website but the individual talk topics are referred to as 'boards' so TRF is a board, FWR/Sex and Gender is a board whereas you're referring to MN in its totality as the board?

Well I'll be buggered! I think we are! Because I am old a board - to me - is a bulletin board which really was what forums used to be called! I moderated one once back in the very early days.

I am sorry Winnie I really didn't understand.

Needless to say, there were 300 individual threads with the name Meghan in, from the time of her appearing to them leaving, but that was on the forum, and not on the royal board. Smile

Samcro · 07/07/2023 14:31

Mylovelygreendress · 07/07/2023 14:06

Hmmm did you actually read the statement they posted ( before they spoke to HM) ? You know the one where they said they would collaborate (!) with HM ?? They had it all worked out - goodbye boring visits to factories in the rain , hello film premiers , tiaras and £££££££.

im always interested by this. did they say they only wanted to do the glam stuff?
or do you mean once they had left.

Iwantcakeeveryday · 07/07/2023 14:40

smilesy · 07/07/2023 14:07

What about continuing to “collaborate” with the Queen, though? How would that have got them away from the things you list above? They would still have had press attention if they had continued to work on her behalf as they stated they wanted to. And potentially misogyny and racism as well 🤷‍♀️

I guess they thought appearing less and being less visible, potentially out of the country half the time, would bring it down to a manageable level. We have to remember they both were struggling mentally, and that's a valid reason to make adjustments to your life. I've had to do it myself.

Iwantcakeeveryday · 07/07/2023 14:44

Samcro · 07/07/2023 14:31

im always interested by this. did they say they only wanted to do the glam stuff?
or do you mean once they had left.

They didn't. It's just something people say to dismiss the very real pressures they were under which was why they wanted to limit their exposure to it. Which I think is reasonable.

Mylovelygreendress · 07/07/2023 14:45

Samcro · 07/07/2023 14:31

im always interested by this. did they say they only wanted to do the glam stuff?
or do you mean once they had left.

No they didn’t say they didn’t want to but Meghan thought she should have been paid for a walkabout . H and M didn’t go to a military event that they were expected at but instead went to a film premier where H was overheard trying to get voiceover work for his wife .
It is not a huge leap to assume that they wanted to pick and choose what they did and the chances are they would have picked the more glamorous events.
All while keeping their titles and security .
But all that is well documented. I only raised the issue because some posters insist that H and M were forced to leave rather than the simple fact that they chose to.

Roussette · 07/07/2023 14:53

They chose to for a reason.... you forgot to add that bit. Smile

Samcro · 07/07/2023 15:01

assume so an assumption, because Meghan misunderstood and thought she would be paid to work.

Mylovelygreendress · 07/07/2023 15:04

Roussette · 07/07/2023 14:53

They chose to for a reason.... you forgot to add that bit. Smile

Yes @Roussette they chose to leave because they didn’t get their own way !
how many times does this have to be said for the fan club to get it ?

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