Omid Scobie writing tell all book

[CosmosQueen]

The biographer of the Duke and Duchess of Sussexwarned that his next book will reveal moments that the Royal family should be “ashamed of”.
Omid Scobie claimed he was one of few journalists writing about the Royal family whose work was impartial and “spin-free”
As such, he said his forthcoming book, provocatively titled Endgame: Inside the Royal Family and the Monarchy’s Fight for Survival, would focus on the negative as much as the positive and would shine a light on “unsolved mysteries”
“Endgame not only looks at the successes of our Royal family but also the failures; the things to be proud of and those they should be ashamed of,” he wrote in the I newspaper

Just when will this end? I feel so sorry for their poor children who will have to live with the knowledge that their parents and his obnoxious individual were prepared to do anything to make money.

to believe she wasn’t offered support from the royal family is to believe the royal family always wanted them to fail to bring the royal family into disrepute.
whilst some circles believe they may have wanted the failure
they are unlikely to have wanted the bad press for the entire royal family it would bring. They wouldn’t want the whole thing to be questioned. They survive best when seen as a team.

every single woman who married in would know how hard it is for Meghan and more so as an American without the basic history and knowledge us Brits have. Whilst they may not have liked her, to actively want her to fail is unlikely because of the repercussions for themselves

I am thinking of it as 'Royal Reporters' and should've clarified that as opposed to using RR

I'm not twisting it!

I'm looking at the exact words she said, and their normal meaning. Which is more than readiness. If she meant something else, then she could have said that instead.

Whilst they may not have liked her, to actively want her to fail is unlikely because of the repercussions for themselves

I don't think for one minute they wanted her to fail. However, I believe she entered an archaic institution that hadn't changed much for 70 years (whilst HMQ was Monarch) and they just did not know what to do with a divorced American bi-racial empowered career woman. I think they were in a complete tailspin. There were probably faults on both sides, but I imagine (just my take on it) royal family practices are set in stone and can't change without endless meetings over years pontificating. It's not exactly a flexible Institution is it... Sarah F couldn't cope with it, nor could Diana.

Could you link some? My recollection varies

It is very easy to find old threads. Go to search, put in time start and end, put in the word Meghan and there are hundreds.

Do try "I'm fucking sick of Meghan and Harry already" which was started the day after their engagement.

There is no 'recollections may vary' when it is there for you to see.

I've just been the saddo and looked back. Between the time of the relationship becoming public and the announcement that they were leaving, there are just over a page of threads in the RF topic, and of those, 22 were about H&M so there weren't a lot of threads at all.

I'd characterise the tone of those threads as positive (not every single comment of all, but negativity was as much in the "abolish all the fecking freeloaders" vein as going on about her individually eg for being a divorcee)

Now I know there were threads outside the topic as well, I was probably on them! But you did say on this board

Outside this board there was wedding chat (nearly all positive - some thought it a waste of money) and baby speculation. And there was an interesting one about tights and fingernails, but that wasn't just M

go to this board, go back to the start and then forward to when he met her and you'll see the headings and can do your own research. Theres a lot of threads.

I've just had a look. Premise of that thread was that the government was pushing H&M stories to crowd out press coverage of Brexit - "bread and fecking circuses"

Very little on either H or M personally.

Though there was an exchange about whether Kate and Meghan were both airheads, followed numbers of posts about Meghan's articulacy and how well she's coming across. Other comments include "delighted for them" and "it's a bit of happy news"

Plus more discussion about why thinking it was a Brexit diversion was verging on conspiracy theory

There were similar threads about Kate and William too, well mostly having a pop at Kate, one of the first threads on the royal board 'Oooh! Waity Katie finally gets her man!' closely followed by 'to wonder just how 'arranged' the royal wedding is' or perhaps 'does anyone in Scotland give a shit about the royal wedding?' and the fabulous 'so what would kate middleclass ahve done if wills hadn't popped the question?'

Looking back in the royal topic, there were very few threads about Harry and Meghan until their announcement that they were leaving, there were loads more about Kate, many derogatory. The volume of threads increased mightily after they left, after the Oprah interview etc, but prior to that, there were very few.

Yup I am talking about this board. There are also comments form posters, I think maybe some are still on MN, where they discuss how awful the press are being to her in 2019 and 2018 and that the comments on those outlets sites are awful, often racist and hateful. This narrative that it was all positive before they left is completely false. It wasn't here, or anywhere.

The volume and engagement on this board has certainly increased significantly, there wasn't much conversation before at all. Most threads had few comments. The board came alive with posters wanting to be negative about them when they announced they were leaving, that's true. So I think that supports someone else theory here a few days ago that most people on the board being negative about H & M are not royalists. There doesn't seem to be many of them here at all.

Excellent - I’ll now take this as a negative in interviews. Glad for that consensus. (Heard this more than once during a very long day of interviews yesterday - felt quite excited by their enthusiasm but now based on this I will probably need to recalibrate)

@WinnieTheW0rm

I have no idea how you are doing your search. But that could not be further off the mark.

Using advanced search and the same timescales as you, I have checked thread titles with the word 'Meghan' in and the result is over 300. I kept turning page after page to make sure I wasn't mistaken. I am only checking thread titles with the word Meghan in it, and making sure it wasn't another Meghan. It is not posts by the way. It is individual thread titles. I didn't even check Harry.

2018 I wish Harry and Meghan would stop holding hands
2018 Harry and Meghan don't look right together
2018 Why all these racist posts about Meghan Markle
2018 Meghan is not royal material

Please see my last post. I was here. I remember the threads, I saw them. I was taken aback. (see the thread titles above, back in 2018)

How anyone can say there wasn't negativity I do not know

Looking back in the royal topic, there were very few threads about Harry and Meghan until their announcement that they were leaving

Incorrect. I found 300 in that time period. Could be more. I just advance searched the word Meghan in thread titles.

Odd, I've just done that too and until 2020 there's virtually nothing. I must be doing something wrong unsurprisingly

Search keywords - Meghan
Search type - Thread title only
From 01/11/2017 (engagement) to 19/02/2021 (announcement they're stepping back

Voila!

You're talking about something different.

The poster who introduced this theme was talking about threads in this board

And it's pretty clear that the sentence you've quoted above is about looking back in the royal topic

And of course I included in my previous posts

Now I know there were threads outside the topic as well, I was probably on them! But you did say on this board

Please don't say I'm incorrect for something which is not so. Particularly when I was clear about what I was talking about, and acknowledged that there were also threads elsewhere

The enthusiasm which lies behind "hit the ground running" is commendable, but unlikely to be positive if you haven't taken the time to understand the event you're running in

My attitude exactly, and I'm reminded of Anne, who when speaking about her work with Save the Children, said in effect how important it was to spend a period learning the ropes before ploughing in

In fairness the ghastly RF wouldn't have been an easy thing to join for anyone, but the whole relationship was so fast and intense that Meghan wouldn't have had the time to learn much even if Harry had encouraged this - which personally I doubt

She could have taken time to learn once married though, but I've always believed (and again that's a belief not a know) that from the very start it was a case of get the ring / get the title / get out to more lucrative things, and that the undoubted disadvantages were massively exaggerated to justify it

The funniest was this, like others there's little engagement on the thread, but its referring to other sites being crackers and sadly it didn't take long for this one to join them!

https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/the_royal_family/1977697-Those-royal-gossip-forums-are-crackers

MNHQ used to delete any mention of the allegations that are being discussed in that thread.

I think it was very much the wrong decision to allow any post referring to them to stand

I think t is because they do not have that sort of thing in the guidelines? To stop all gossip would be hard, although certain public figures have managed to stop threads discussing them being allowed here, I assume by legal pressure.

Ahhhh, I was just looking in the RF board. I'm obviously crap at this because it's bringing up thread titles with the word 'mean' in them which obviously contain some of the letters in Meghan's name but are irrelevant otherwise. When you select dates do you get a box with July 2023 calendar then have to scroll back month by month? That's really annoying too.

@Roussette I don't think being sick and tired of them is exactly a hate crime. It's just an observation that they were on the front pages for 2 years solid. Frankly I too am sick and tired of having pointless photos of them on my news feed because they are no longer relevant in 2023.