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Omid Scobie writing tell all book

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CosmosQueen · 29/06/2023 07:23

The biographer of the Duke and Duchess of Sussexwarned that his next book will reveal moments that the Royal family should be “ashamed of”.
Omid Scobie claimed he was one of few journalists writing about the Royal family whose work was impartial and “spin-free”

As such, he said his forthcoming book, provocatively titled Endgame: Inside the Royal Family and the Monarchy’s Fight for Survival, would focus on the negative as much as the positive and would shine a light on “unsolved mysteries”
“Endgame not only looks at the successes of our Royal family but also the failures; the things to be proud of and those they should be ashamed of,” he wrote in the I newspaper

Just when will this end? I feel so sorry for their poor children who will have to live with the knowledge that their parents and his obnoxious individual were prepared to do anything to make money.

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Howsimplywonderful · 06/07/2023 20:25

The Queen did offer Sophie Wessex to help prepare her which Meghan declined

Annalisea · 06/07/2023 20:30

Howsimplywonderful · 06/07/2023 20:25

The Queen did offer Sophie Wessex to help prepare her which Meghan declined

The Queen clearly didn’t know her character. She thinks she knows best and doesn’t listen to anyone . If she had listened to advice she might not have made so many mistakes both in the RF and since leaving.

Mylovelygreendress · 06/07/2023 21:09

Howsimplywonderful · 06/07/2023 20:25

The Queen did offer Sophie Wessex to help prepare her which Meghan declined

Apparently Camilla also offered support but that was also refused.

costacoughee · 06/07/2023 21:38

Unfortunately meghans refusal of help within the RF are just indicators of the character flaws that have fuelled the stunning decline in popularity the couple have since experienced. Talk about snatching defeat from the jaws of victory

tigger2022 · 06/07/2023 22:21

I don’t think Meghan is devious at all… the mistakes at the beginning that her & Harry made kind of remind me of the principle of Chesterton’s fence (if you’re walking through the countryside and chance upon a fence, before tearing it down you should find out why it was put up in the first place). They ran in, guns blazing, determined to change everything, without taking the time to find out first why things are the way they are and what compromises had to be made along the way.

upinaballoon · 06/07/2023 23:18

Do you really think they ran in, thinking they could change things? My take is that it was more the hype of the papers - "She is a breath of fresh air. They will drag the RF into the 21st century" sort of stuff. They might have been influenced by what some of the papers were saying about them. I accept that some papers were anti-Meghan from the start but certainly not all.
(The RF changes all the time, maybe slowly, but it changes, with or without H and M.)

Milcar · 06/07/2023 23:49

There are all sorts of weird traditions, but each 'tradition' was the result of finding the most constructive way of handling a situation.

So as well as a lot of historical baggage, there is also a lot of wisdom in the traditions.

I think Harry and Meghan did not consider there may be some wisdom in traditions.

Milcar · 06/07/2023 23:51

upinaballoon · 06/07/2023 23:18

Do you really think they ran in, thinking they could change things? My take is that it was more the hype of the papers - "She is a breath of fresh air. They will drag the RF into the 21st century" sort of stuff. They might have been influenced by what some of the papers were saying about them. I accept that some papers were anti-Meghan from the start but certainly not all.
(The RF changes all the time, maybe slowly, but it changes, with or without H and M.)

The 'hit the ground running' comment suggests that they thought they were on top of everything and had improvements to make. But, of course, it is diffcult to know what they saw as 'the ground'.

Iwantcakeeveryday · 07/07/2023 08:47

They ran in, guns blazing, determined to change everything

what makes you say this? That's the press narrative, but what makes you think that?

"hit the ground running' means you're ready to get started. I think people are reading an awful lot into that sentence to suit their own agendas. Being prepared to work hard is a positive. I don't remember people fussing over the comment at the time.

How do we know she declined advice, where does that come from? It seems like posters are taking what the press say as the truth, which I think is a mistake.

BoohooWoohoo · 07/07/2023 08:57

costacoughee · 06/07/2023 15:27

@SidekickSylvia I've not seen any recent updates on Christopher bouzy but I know Bot Sentinals assertions on the Netflix show were discredited by Twitter (who after all are the ones with real data on their platform and have no axe to grind) and also that CB had posted multiple tweets that were malicious to will and kate. So hardly a reliable or neutral witness on the Netflix offering. A lot of what was on there has been proven unreliable.

CB admits that he had a senior Twitter employee who would ban accounts that he flagged. This person hasn't been working for Twitter since Musk took it over. He also admits to flooding Twitter with large volumes of reports about accounts that he wanted banned.

His reports were poor quality (a GCSE student would know that you should explain his methodology) and relied on people messaging him with tips on who to look at.

costacoughee · 07/07/2023 09:13

@BoohooWoohoo Unfortunately his and the couple's narrative stands for many people simply because the deceptions are not so widely known of disseminated

costacoughee · 07/07/2023 09:16

How do people know Meghan declined advice? Because royal correspondents were told this. Of course they are lying because Meghan and harry have been proven reliable truth tellers. 🤷🏻‍♀️

costacoughee · 07/07/2023 09:22

...and then there was the 30 page dossier on royal protocol given to Meghan by a palace official.

Iwantcakeeveryday · 07/07/2023 09:22

costacoughee · 07/07/2023 09:16

How do people know Meghan declined advice? Because royal correspondents were told this. Of course they are lying because Meghan and harry have been proven reliable truth tellers. 🤷🏻‍♀️

Ok so you are saying that tabloid royal correspondents were told by someone at the palace? Which is what Harry says happened, briefing against them. You accept that happens and you believe that the information given is from? Camilla and Sophie themselves, or?

AuntieStella · 07/07/2023 09:28

"hit the ground running' means you're ready to get started

Not really "ready at the start line" or "ready to go" mean that.

"hit the ground running" means more than that - you're not ready and waiting, you're already going

Iwantcakeeveryday · 07/07/2023 09:32

AuntieStella · 07/07/2023 09:28

"hit the ground running' means you're ready to get started

Not really "ready at the start line" or "ready to go" mean that.

"hit the ground running" means more than that - you're not ready and waiting, you're already going

😂so now its just one word is it? so she should have said she was ready at the start line, like its a sports event, and then everyone would understand what she meant? for goodness sake! It's a commonly used term in workplaces, and most reasonable people will understand its meaning and not need to twist and turn to make it something else.

costacoughee · 07/07/2023 09:34

@Iwantcakeeveryday Please don't misrepresent what I said. Royal correspondents have a mandate to report royal affairs in partnership with the palace comms office. It's not a conspiracy it's a working relationship. Harry wants to call that leaking and planting but it's simply a partnership of necessity.

costacoughee · 07/07/2023 09:43

Hit the ground running means you have the requisite skills, the mindset, the aptitude and are prepared for the role. Meghan fell at the first hurdle and clearly didn't have the skills and refused to consider having and induction period under instruction. She didn't know the national anthem or hie to curtsy

Roussette · 07/07/2023 09:47

Anyone who thinks that certain royal households don't or haven't briefed against each other is naive. I'm sure it ebbs and flows and at the moment there isn't much of it going on. But yes, it happened back in the Diana days and it doesn't stop. So posters will ask for proof... the RF are hardly going to put out a statement saying 'yes we brief against each other' are they?

It's all behind closed doors. There is not one palace comms office. Each royal household have there own comms team. H&M and K&W had one together at one point, then it split for various reasons.

Iwantcakeeveryday · 07/07/2023 09:49

costacoughee · 07/07/2023 09:34

@Iwantcakeeveryday Please don't misrepresent what I said. Royal correspondents have a mandate to report royal affairs in partnership with the palace comms office. It's not a conspiracy it's a working relationship. Harry wants to call that leaking and planting but it's simply a partnership of necessity.

Its not necessary at all. Palace comms are for official things, events, and official statements on events that are relevant to their role. Its not to tattle about other members of the family in order to create negative headlines. I asked you a question. You seem to have admitted that they brief against each other, as Harry stated and others on this board have denied.

Iwantcakeeveryday · 07/07/2023 09:51

costacoughee · 07/07/2023 09:43

Hit the ground running means you have the requisite skills, the mindset, the aptitude and are prepared for the role. Meghan fell at the first hurdle and clearly didn't have the skills and refused to consider having and induction period under instruction. She didn't know the national anthem or hie to curtsy

No it doesn't. have you ever employed anyone? I have and I take 'hit the ground running' to mean you're ready to start work in earnest. That's how everyone I have ever worked with takes it too. Its a positive statement and the fact people are reaching here to twist it into a negative is really strange.

WinnieTheW0rm · 07/07/2023 09:51

She did however come across as having bags of enthusiasm. And there was so much good will at that time. It looked good and was welcomed.

How it's seen now, with the benefit of hindsight, is rather different

And (again with hindsight) it does seem that Harry wasn't really ensuring that she was fully prepared - by telling her things himself or by checking others were covering the ground.

Roussette · 07/07/2023 09:53

I have no time for the RR. It was started half a century ago but to me, it encourages cronyism, and they let down their profession big time when 4 of them were paid and spoke for 40 minutes about the OW that they had not seen.
The criticised Meghan and Harry about an interview that had not been screened. If they had any morals they would have refused to take part. It tells me all I need to know about the RR.

Iwantcakeeveryday · 07/07/2023 09:55

And there was so much good will at that time. It looked good and was welcomed.

There was an awful lot of negativity too. Going back on this board is quite revealing, for all some here say there was only goodwill and positivity, even this board shows that is not true. There was a lot of negativity about her straight away.

WinnieTheW0rm · 07/07/2023 09:59

Roussette · 07/07/2023 09:53

I have no time for the RR. It was started half a century ago but to me, it encourages cronyism, and they let down their profession big time when 4 of them were paid and spoke for 40 minutes about the OW that they had not seen.
The criticised Meghan and Harry about an interview that had not been screened. If they had any morals they would have refused to take part. It tells me all I need to know about the RR.

RR = Royal Rota?

You do know, as it has been posted so many times, that the Royal Rota is not some "insider's club" with special privileges or briefings. It's the pool rota.

If it didn't exist, how would you want to see arrangements for coverage of both engagements that might not otherwise attract much attention, or which are held at venues too small for the full press pack?

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