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Omid Scobie writing tell all book

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CosmosQueen · 29/06/2023 07:23

The biographer of the Duke and Duchess of Sussexwarned that his next book will reveal moments that the Royal family should be “ashamed of”.
Omid Scobie claimed he was one of few journalists writing about the Royal family whose work was impartial and “spin-free”

As such, he said his forthcoming book, provocatively titled Endgame: Inside the Royal Family and the Monarchy’s Fight for Survival, would focus on the negative as much as the positive and would shine a light on “unsolved mysteries”
“Endgame not only looks at the successes of our Royal family but also the failures; the things to be proud of and those they should be ashamed of,” he wrote in the I newspaper

Just when will this end? I feel so sorry for their poor children who will have to live with the knowledge that their parents and his obnoxious individual were prepared to do anything to make money.

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CanNeverThinkOfAName · 05/07/2023 21:40

Iwantcakeeveryday · 05/07/2023 11:25

The whole flower dress and lipstick drama is so childish.

It is. It was very childish of Kate and Williams team to make sure it got out there, it was childish of the press to go on about it, it was childish for a narrative to then be created Meghan was mean and demanding, and it is childish for members of this forum to also go on and make comments about Meghan regarding it.

IIRC it was Harry who mentioned the lip gloss 'drama' in his book. I don't remember it being reported prior to that.

How ridiculously petty to put that in a book other than to paint Kate in a bad light? Not that it did as most women don't like sharing lipsticks/lip glosses for obvious hygiene reasons (I don't even like my adult DD sharing mine) and it was rude and presumptuous of Meghan to put her in that position where Kate probably knew full well if she'd No, it would have been reported on and even though she did let her use it, it did anyway in the knowledge Kate would not be able to argue about whether she grimaced or not!

Howsimplywonderful · 05/07/2023 21:50

@CanNeverThinkOfAName

You’re right. The first time the lipgloss
story was made public was by Harry. So the OP needs to take it up with Harry. Perhaps they can write him a letter about it

pilates · 06/07/2023 05:34

😂

Iwantcakeeveryday · 06/07/2023 07:31

It was shared to show the stupid childish reasons Kate and William had an issue with Meghan, which was made public by their team and was much written about before the book.

tigger2022 · 06/07/2023 07:35

Whoops 😂

Howsimplywonderful · 06/07/2023 07:36

William and Kate’s team didn’t release any stories about ‘lipgloss’ - it was in Spare.

I agree writing a story like that is terribly petty.

tigger2022 · 06/07/2023 07:37

I thought Meghan came off really badly in the lipgloss story but it wasn’t her sharing it, it was Harry

Howsimplywonderful · 06/07/2023 07:39

@Iwantcakeeveryday

Someone not wanting to share lipgloss is fine. Someone writing about it in a book is petty.

Kate still gave it even if she wasn’t keen, and Meghan apparently still took it so wasn’t bothered about Kate being uncomfortable.

Oblahbla · 06/07/2023 07:42

It was shared to show the stupid and childish reasons Meghan had an issue with Kate. 2 very minor incidents of Meghan taking umbrage over a total non event then Harry whipping himself into a froth over perceived slights to his wife. If these are the only things they have to complain about Kate over they really are scraping the bottom of the barrel.

Harry has suggested his brother didn't marry for love and has also aired his 'concern' for his brother's children - now they're pretty good reasons to be miffed at someone. Not spats over a sodding lipgloss.

Samcro · 06/07/2023 07:45

good grief, its such a non thing, rich woman who could buy as many lip glosses she wants, doesn't want to share with other rich woman who could buy as many lip glosses as she wants.
it just shows that Kate and Meghan were not friends.

EdithWeston · 06/07/2023 07:52

Iwantcakeeveryday · 05/07/2023 11:20

The Palace PR machine completely whitewashed his past image and he was then the beloved prince Harry, favourite grandson of the Queen meanwhile Kate and William were the ones getting constantly bashed

Right. So the palace PR machine can create any image they want of them, which means they're doing it now too right? Creating an image of all of them, most of which will not be true. So right now, how do you know if they aren't doing it to Harry still? They created the image you speak of that everyone fell for right? So stands to reason then they can destroy his image if they want to also. All you've done is acknowledged that the institution ( with help form the press ) controls the narrative, which is also what Harry said in his book.

I don't think so.

I think the Palaces' press offices are completely ignoring them - they are no longer working members of the RF, and they've left them to it. They stand or fall by their own efforts now.

On the odd occasion when they both say something (such as confirming Harry's attendance at the Coronation) the wording was rather warmer from one side than the other. Not sure if that carries a hidden meaning, or is just a reflection of respective house styles.

EdithWeston · 06/07/2023 07:53

Samcro · 06/07/2023 07:45

good grief, its such a non thing, rich woman who could buy as many lip glosses she wants, doesn't want to share with other rich woman who could buy as many lip glosses as she wants.
it just shows that Kate and Meghan were not friends.

I don't think it even shows that.

Loads of people don't share, even with close friends

Iwantcakeeveryday · 06/07/2023 07:55

Howsimplywonderful · 06/07/2023 07:36

William and Kate’s team didn’t release any stories about ‘lipgloss’ - it was in Spare.

I agree writing a story like that is terribly petty.

having a problem with Meghan because she asked to share lipgloss, is what's petty. Them not getting on was already shared and written about. I think it was proving the point it was all for petty reasons like lip gloss and lack of Easter gifts.

Iwantcakeeveryday · 06/07/2023 07:57

It was shared to show the stupid and childish reasons Meghan had an issue with Kate.

Other way round. There were plenty of articles written about it. Meghan referred to Kate as a good woman publicly. No such generosity from Kate towards Meghan.

WinnieTheW0rm · 06/07/2023 07:57

people in Hollywood listen to Bill SimmonsI
don't know how you think you know this, but people in the industry were correctly commenting on Spotifys overspend on podcasts years ago, and on the fact they had chosen to give a lot of money to celebrities

Yes, and they've fired the person who was responsible for that policy. And have kept him on. Are you trying to say that Spotify are deliberately sinking their podcast business further? Or is it more likely that they've kept the more successful (and influential) podcast network builder, in order to improve the business?

Oblahbla · 06/07/2023 08:01

'having a problem with Meghan because she asked to share lipgloss, is what's petty.'

No - Meghan asked to borrow a lip gloss. She was given the lip gloss. She told Harry Kate didn't want to loan the lip gloss. Maybe she didn't - lots of women wouldn't. What's really pathetic is telling the story years later as if it's some kind of defining moment instead of shrugging it off like a normal person would.

As I said, if these are the only instances behind Meghan's obvious jealousy of Kate, it's pathetic.

Iwantcakeeveryday · 06/07/2023 08:02

Are you trying to say that Spotify are deliberately sinking their podcast business further? Or is it more likely that they've kept the more successful (and influential) podcast network builder, in order to improve the business?

I think Spotify have shown they do not make good decisions in general. Theres been a lot of people in the industry talking about their business model for some time, and how and why they will always struggle to make money.

WinnieTheW0rm · 06/07/2023 08:02

Iwantcakeeveryday · 05/07/2023 11:34

Harry's current unpopularity is of his own making. Riiiight. So this is his own making but the positive image before was palace PR. Okay. How convenient for you.

I think its much simpler.

When he was in the RF, they looked after his interests

When he left, they simply stopped doing so.

Mylovelygreendress · 06/07/2023 08:03

Iwantcakeeveryday · 06/07/2023 07:31

It was shared to show the stupid childish reasons Kate and William had an issue with Meghan, which was made public by their team and was much written about before the book.

When you are in a hole @Iwantcakeeveryday , stop digging ……
It was Harry who told the lipgloss no -story . Just accept your mistake and move on .

Howsimplywonderful · 06/07/2023 08:03

Any ‘lipgloss’ articles were written after Harry’s Book, the blame lies clearly at Harry’s door for that non-story being released

Mylovelygreendress · 06/07/2023 08:03

WinnieTheW0rm · 06/07/2023 08:02

I think its much simpler.

When he was in the RF, they looked after his interests

When he left, they simply stopped doing so.

In a nutshell.

Iwantcakeeveryday · 06/07/2023 08:04

When he left, they simply stopped doing so.

Oh its much more than that, its quite clear Ito a lot of people that the institution and the press have a very special relationship, Harry can't succeed without them or it sets a precedent. They've already got an ageing set of working royals with a bunch of young children years away from stepping up. Give them an out and they may take it. Better to make life look unliveable without them.

Iwantcakeeveryday · 06/07/2023 08:06

Mylovelygreendress · 06/07/2023 08:03

When you are in a hole @Iwantcakeeveryday , stop digging ……
It was Harry who told the lipgloss no -story . Just accept your mistake and move on .

I'm not in a hole and please try and be respectful. We had a couple of warnings yesterday.

The point of sharing the various minor issues was to highlight that they are small and petty and nothing to create a whole damaging narrative about in the press. They attempted to communicate with them and figure out why they got off to a bad start and the issues presented were small and petty. Issues Kate had. Not Meghan.

WinnieTheW0rm · 06/07/2023 08:07

Iwantcakeeveryday · 06/07/2023 08:02

Are you trying to say that Spotify are deliberately sinking their podcast business further? Or is it more likely that they've kept the more successful (and influential) podcast network builder, in order to improve the business?

I think Spotify have shown they do not make good decisions in general. Theres been a lot of people in the industry talking about their business model for some time, and how and why they will always struggle to make money.

Yes, they made bad decisions before.

Do you think they're trying to recover from that (by hiring/promoting someone who has an excellent reputation on the business side, and who started the cull)?

Or have some other reason for doing that? Or are so incompetent that they didn't have any idea what they were doing when they started making the changes last year?

Howsimplywonderful · 06/07/2023 08:07

@Iwantcakeeveryday

The RF will manage just fine without Harry and Meghan.

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