Omid Scobie writing tell all book

[CosmosQueen]

The biographer of the Duke and Duchess of Sussexwarned that his next book will reveal moments that the Royal family should be “ashamed of”.
Omid Scobie claimed he was one of few journalists writing about the Royal family whose work was impartial and “spin-free”
As such, he said his forthcoming book, provocatively titled Endgame: Inside the Royal Family and the Monarchy’s Fight for Survival, would focus on the negative as much as the positive and would shine a light on “unsolved mysteries”
“Endgame not only looks at the successes of our Royal family but also the failures; the things to be proud of and those they should be ashamed of,” he wrote in the I newspaper

Just when will this end? I feel so sorry for their poor children who will have to live with the knowledge that their parents and his obnoxious individual were prepared to do anything to make money.

If you did read Spare, you would then be aware that Harry specifies when he is not sure of a memory - the are not many. I quote the ones he is sure of.

I somehow agree with the person saying that a lot of people are using W&K, pretending to be their fans to bash Meghan and Harry just like a lot of anti monarchists pretend to like the Sussexes to help their agenda of abolishing the monarchy.

I wouldn't consider myself a royalist per se but I like Kate and the kids. William, I still have beef with haha but I like their little family though I don't hesitate to criticise them when necessary. I used to engage quite a bit on social media but now, I mostly stay away because it has become too toxic. Even here, sometimes I stay here for a like an hour and stay away for days. I don't know how so many people argue about this feud everyday. It's exhausting.

The thing is with Harry and Meghan, I totally understand why they had to go away. The media have been so toxic but as for regular people, most don't care anyone. I think the peak of the interest was in 2020-2021 at the peak of the pandemic. We were all stuck at home and had nothing better to do. Now, people are just tired of their drama.

My dad said it best: "this is first world, rich people drama".

While I feel terrible for Harry, him losing his mum at a young age and the way the media has been treating, his constant whinging is making it very hard now to have sympathy for him. For example, him going on Oprah complaining that his father cut him off financially while having 20 million of inheritance money in the middle of a global pandemic and with so many people who had lost their jobs, lost their business and had no income to take care of their families.

He also needs to stop blaming everything and everyone for everything bad that's happened in his life.
I agree that the media are horrible but the media didn't make him act out when he was a young adult: the nazi uniform, racially abusing his colleagues in the army, falling out out nightclubs, fighting with paparazzis, the Vegas incident,...
If anything, so many people made excuses for him because "we" all remember poor little Harry walking behind his mum's coffin. The perfect example is his admission at Sandhurst. The fact that he was still allowed to go less than a month after his nazi uniform scandal tells me everything I need to know. Had that been anyone else with that kind of record, they would've been rejected IMMEDIATELY.
Harry also seem to forget that he was the most popular royal after the Queen for a good decade. The Palace PR machine completely whitewashed his past image and he was then the beloved prince Harry, favourite grandson of the Queen meanwhile Kate and William were the ones getting constantly bashed by the press in 2011-2018 (some of the criticisms were valid): lazy, don't want to be royal, boring, Workshy Wills, Duchess Doolittle, Kate "lying about her severe morning sickness to avoid work", eating disorder accusations, "Harry would make a better king (that article ironically written by none other than Piers Morgan) but we're supposed to believe the narrative that Harry has always been "fed to the wolves" to make the heir look better, sure!
Harry has always been immune to rules and consequences. He always has someone to blame. Nothing is ever his fault and he never takes accountability for anything.

He's clearly still mentally stuck at 12 years old and I feel sympathy for him. I am a survivor of childhood sexual abuse. It's like I was stuck and it affect my life for the next 12 years until I woke up one day and realised that I couldn't let that tragedy ruin my future. Maybe, writing Spare was therapeutic in a way.

As for Meghan, I feel terrible for the way she's been treated by the media. There has clearly been some racism.

As my mum said, the Kate v Meghan drama is just "petty, diva princesses drama". These two women are too different and were never going to be friends. Not the end of the world. I have 5 brothers, all married and I'm only friends with one of them.

Though, an aspect people always overlook is the media putting them against each other at the beginning but Meghan being the one being praised. When she arrived on the scene, she was immediately branded as the anti-Kate. It was Meghan the fun, successful, independent, modern, outspoken, humanitarian vs Kate the lazy, boring, old fashioned, quiet who never really had a career and a lot of fans bought into that narrative especially the ones who were already hating on Kate in 2011-2015. So, it was okay to put them against each other then when Meghan was the one praised all the time but as soon as that changed. It became this big thing.

Anyway, their feud is just diva tantrums to me. The media are obviously trying to create this iconic rivalry between two women who are not at war. And from what Harry has said in interviews and book, he felt that Kate didn't make an effort to welcome Meghan (not everyone who meet the first time are going to be BFFs. Some relationships take time to develop), that he felt thather and William were stereotyping her because she's an actress and biracial (maybe they just didn't connect right away.). The whole flower dress and lipstick drama is so childish.

Anyway, I wish peace and happiness to all, hopefully a reconciliation

@@Nono22972 , I haven't time to go through every bit of your post but I would like to say that many of your paragraphs are measured and sensible.

Damn, meant to cancel your quote as it was just above what I was saying! Sorry.

I don’t really get how people can say ‘recollections vary’ is snide.

Even when Harry spoke about the ‘racism’ incident it was different to when Meghan did it.

So for those who thought the comment was snide, which version was true? Harrys, or Meghans?

He was part of the rota - that was how he met Harry one time. Though I believe after Finding Freedom success or the court appearance, William wanted to boost him out of the Royal Rota

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I think this has got a bit garbled. The Royal Rota is the press pool arrangement, by which Royal engagements (that don't really attract much attention otherwise) get some coverage, which is then shared with all outlets in the pool.

It's not a sign of being a special insider, or getting additional access or whatever. It just means you take your turn at watching things like the ribbon cutting of the recently renovated community garden on a grey day in Dunny-On-The-Wold.

Stringers (especially local ones) may get to cover some events, but freelancers don't usually

Totally agree with everything you just said.

^^ This

The Palace PR machine completely whitewashed his past image and he was then the beloved prince Harry, favourite grandson of the Queen meanwhile Kate and William were the ones getting constantly bashed

Right. So the palace PR machine can create any image they want of them, which means they're doing it now too right? Creating an image of all of them, most of which will not be true. So right now, how do you know if they aren't doing it to Harry still? They created the image you speak of that everyone fell for right? So stands to reason then they can destroy his image if they want to also. All you've done is acknowledged that the institution ( with help form the press ) controls the narrative, which is also what Harry said in his book.

The whole flower dress and lipstick drama is so childish.

It is. It was very childish of Kate and Williams team to make sure it got out there, it was childish of the press to go on about it, it was childish for a narrative to then be created Meghan was mean and demanding, and it is childish for members of this forum to also go on and make comments about Meghan regarding it.

PR works to a certain extent, if the person involved takes advice. So the Palace machine could (did, no doubt) set up situations that showed the best side of Harry (or any other royal). Over time, that 'best side' becomes the public face.

I am sure the current royals, especially William and Kate, have people advising them about what invitations to accept, and how it might come across.

But there isn't a magic PR wand that can make people popular or unpopular on demand

Correct. Scobie may have a Royal Reporter for whatever media outlet he was working for, but the rota is just a workload tool to ensure events are covered with a minimum of press attendance.

@Nono22972

So agree with everything you say.

Hmm, no! It's called rebranding and PR. Tons of celebrities have done it in the past. For example, when some do lots of charity to help their image. They don't control the narrative. They just want to have a better public image and there's nothing wrong with that.

Harry's current unpopularity is of his own making. He got a criticism but he also got a lot of sympathy when he and Meghan decided to leave but them doing the Oprah interview while Prince Philip was on his deathbed turned a lot of people off and then the Netflix series and the book.

Harry's current unpopularity is of his own making. Riiiight. So this is his own making but the positive image before was palace PR. Okay. How convenient for you.

Blimey 😵‍💫
Talk about getting away from the original post!

First, we only heard one side of the story and given the number of inconsistencies in that interview, their credibility isn't that great but let's say it's true, in Spare, Harry said that he found Meghan crying at home, maybe Kate also cried at home, who knows?

Second, people need to stop with that narrative that this particular story is when the Meghan hate started, it's not true. It started with them getting criticised for using private jets while preaching about climate change, then there was the blood earrings. Plus, a lot of the hate she got were from anti monarchists as well, even though they "love" her now, she was a working member of the RF, therefore a target

Stop playing stupid. We all clearly saw they received a lot of backlash after the Oprah interview, the Netflix show and the interviews so yes, it is by his own making. No one forced him to go on Oprah while his grandfather was dying and bash his family and cry about his "poor life" while millions of people were trying to survive during this pandemic. No one forced him to write a book with private informations about his family, including the Queen who had just lost her husband of 70+ years and her health declining. No one forced him to release a Netflix show only 3 months after his grandmother died.

No need to respond. I don't even hate the man but how some people just refuse to see his wrongdoings is baffling

Second, people need to stop with that narrative that this particular story is when the Meghan hate started, it's not true. It started with them getting criticised for using private jets while preaching about climate change, then there was the blood earrings. Plus, a lot of the hate she got were from anti monarchists as well, even though they "love" her now, she was a working member of the RF, therefore a target

This guardian article was from 2016. Abuse had started.

“Prince Harry’s decision to attack the British press for introducing “racial overtones” into the reporting of his relationship with an American actor was made because he had never before witnessed such a “degree of pressure, scrutiny and harassment” from the media.”

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2016/nov/08/prince-harry-lambasts-press-over-meghan-markle-coverage

Quite. And then it was the press who attributed it directly to the Queen, not MNers. MNers were the ones being more nuanced!

'Issue of race concerning, but recollection vary, says Queen' - Telegraph headline
'Recollections may vary says Queen' - express headline
'Queen says racism claim will be handled in private' - Times headline

There were many more. I posted the link the Guardian story on the headlines upthread ^^

MNers were the ones who discussed the PR elements of the statement and the subsequent reporting. I remember it.

@Nono22972

I wouldn’t bother, for all their ramblings people in Hollywood listen to Bill Simmons (successful podcast creator) not some randoms on mumsnet 😂 shouting ‘racists, bullies and trolls’ at anyone who dares say anything critical of the Sussex.

Zimmer also criticised them as their name is now synonymous in Hollywood with the period of hiring ‘names’ rather than ‘talent’. As he said the lemon has been squeezed and the valuable (royal relationships) has been extracted

People here are not shouting 'racist bully or troll' at him. What is said is that he lacked diversity in his staff and guests on his podcast and that he is known for making sexist comments. That's true and accurate. When it's relevant and accurate, some of us bring up when people have been racist or sexist to Meghan, such as Clarkson recently. To dismiss that, and the sexism and racism she has faced, is not cool at all.

people in Hollywood listen to Bill Simmons I don't know how you think you know this, but people in the industry were correctly commenting on Spotifys overspend on podcasts years ago, and on the fact they had chosen to give a lot of money to celebrities.

I probably shouldn't bother to respond to goady posts denigrating other posters and minimising sexism and racism.

Just to clarify, are you calling me stupid or are you saying I am pretending to be stupid? Either way you're being pretty fucking rude.

so true

Hi again all

Please can we make another plea for peace and love? Further posts that are not contributing to the thread (and derailing it) will be removed.