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Omid Scobie writing tell all book

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CosmosQueen · 29/06/2023 07:23

The biographer of the Duke and Duchess of Sussexwarned that his next book will reveal moments that the Royal family should be “ashamed of”.
Omid Scobie claimed he was one of few journalists writing about the Royal family whose work was impartial and “spin-free”

As such, he said his forthcoming book, provocatively titled Endgame: Inside the Royal Family and the Monarchy’s Fight for Survival, would focus on the negative as much as the positive and would shine a light on “unsolved mysteries”
“Endgame not only looks at the successes of our Royal family but also the failures; the things to be proud of and those they should be ashamed of,” he wrote in the I newspaper

Just when will this end? I feel so sorry for their poor children who will have to live with the knowledge that their parents and his obnoxious individual were prepared to do anything to make money.

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skullbabe · 04/07/2023 20:36

That’s precisely the point - they aren’t.

No threads about how great Kate looked today at Wimbledon - just a very weird one that really is best avoided
No commentary on the Coronation part 2 - Scottish edition
No decent commentary on William’s trips to Norfolk/Scotland

Just thread after thread about the couple who aren’t actually part of the working royal family.

Milcar · 04/07/2023 20:57

So perhaps people who criticise Harry and Meghan are not blind 'fore lock tugging' supporters of the RF?

Perhaps it is the behaviour of the couple that they are criticising in itself?

Roussette · 04/07/2023 20:57

skullbabe · 04/07/2023 20:36

That’s precisely the point - they aren’t.

No threads about how great Kate looked today at Wimbledon - just a very weird one that really is best avoided
No commentary on the Coronation part 2 - Scottish edition
No decent commentary on William’s trips to Norfolk/Scotland

Just thread after thread about the couple who aren’t actually part of the working royal family.

I actually think posters just pretend to be real royalists because there's so little in the way of threads about the actual RF, so no interest in anything they do....just the two who have left. I'd guess 90% of threads are about H&M, and there is little interest in the actual RF and all that they do (or don't do)

Milcar · 04/07/2023 21:04

For myself I think they are an anachronism (sp?). But in practical terms no worse than elected Heads of State who need to use inherited privilege and wealth, or verging-on-corrupt relationships to finance their political elevation. Which is most democratic Heads of State, to some degree.

I wasn't very interested in the whole romance/wedding of Harry and Meghan. I raised an eyebrow when they wanted to 'hit the ground running' as I wondered what ground there is to hit, running or otherwise.

I was sympathetic to their choice to leave.

I think their behaviour and statements since have been very hypocritical and cleverly phrased for deniability, while making clear insinuations. I have been on the recieving end of similar behaviour at work, which is perhaps why I find it mildly annoying, and why I post on these threads.

I don't think anyone needs to be a RF supporter to justify posting on these threads, if they want to.

Milcar · 04/07/2023 21:06

tl:dr!
RF supporter vs Harry and Meghan is a false dichotomy (sp?)😁

skullbabe · 04/07/2023 21:35

Milcar · 04/07/2023 20:57

So perhaps people who criticise Harry and Meghan are not blind 'fore lock tugging' supporters of the RF?

Perhaps it is the behaviour of the couple that they are criticising in itself?

It is reasonable to be critical - I have been as many can attest to.

I contend that weekly threads covering the same ground over and over and find increasingly inventive ways to name call and denigrate go beyond simple criticism. But that’s me. 🤷

skullbabe · 04/07/2023 21:36

Milcar · 04/07/2023 21:06

tl:dr!
RF supporter vs Harry and Meghan is a false dichotomy (sp?)😁

Agreed

MrsLeonFarrell · 04/07/2023 21:42

skullbabe · 04/07/2023 20:36

That’s precisely the point - they aren’t.

No threads about how great Kate looked today at Wimbledon - just a very weird one that really is best avoided
No commentary on the Coronation part 2 - Scottish edition
No decent commentary on William’s trips to Norfolk/Scotland

Just thread after thread about the couple who aren’t actually part of the working royal family.

I've tried to start a thread about the Scottish Coronation but it wouldn't work. I've never started a thread before -fairly new here - so I don't know what I did wrong. If anyone else starts one I'd love to discuss it.

ILikeDinosaurs · 04/07/2023 22:03

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Ohpleeeease · 04/07/2023 23:12

Most of those posting obsessively about Harry & Meghan are massive supporters of the royal family.

I don’t know. Most of those posting obsessively about Harry and Meghan seem to me to be massive supporters of Harry and Meghan.

jazzybelle · 04/07/2023 23:40

Where's he getting his info for his 'tell all' book?

Ridemeginger · 04/07/2023 23:48

400 pages Harry didn't dare publish because his father and brother would never forgive him. Probably left on a park bench in Montecito.

Milcar · 05/07/2023 06:21

Why trolls?

Just people interested in discussing a couple of public figures and their actions.

EdithWeston · 05/07/2023 06:41

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As a side issue, I always find it a bit weird when, on a thread about other aspects of the RF, no matter how much it starts focussed on the original theme, some poster or another always seems pop up saying something like "And how long before someone uses this as an excuse to have a go at H&M?"

Which of course is a self-fulfilling prophesy as that poster has themselves dragged them on to a unrelated thread

Samcro · 05/07/2023 07:22

oh come on, even away from the Royal board, I have seen posters shoehorn a bash in a thread that has nothing to do with the RF or H&M.
Very odd

SidekickSylvia · 05/07/2023 07:57

jazzybelle · 04/07/2023 23:40

Where's he getting his info for his 'tell all' book?

This is what I wonder. There's no way that anybody in the royal family is talking to him (other than H and M), or anyone who is loyal to TRF, whether staff or friends. He's never been on the royal rota and is a self styled royal reporter. His connection to Meghan is through Markus Anderson, there has never been a royal connection. So to those who think this book (and his previous one) will be a credible, truthful account of anything, why? Who do you think is giving him information? And if it's the same people who told him HMTLQ was coming to the UK from Scotland (!) by train, then why on earth would you believe a word of it?

WatchOutMissMarpleIsAbout · 05/07/2023 08:29

I thought ‘recollections may vary’ was excellent.

Retired solicitor. Often when taking witness statements the same event would be viewed differently.

There was usually each participants ‘truth’ then the actual truth was somewhere in the middle.

DollyTheFluffyOne · 05/07/2023 08:35

WatchOutMissMarpleIsAbout · 05/07/2023 08:29

I thought ‘recollections may vary’ was excellent.

Retired solicitor. Often when taking witness statements the same event would be viewed differently.

There was usually each participants ‘truth’ then the actual truth was somewhere in the middle.

There are several TV series where the same events are shown as witnessed by the different characters involved - one that springs to mind is the Affair. Each character based on their life experience interprets an event differently.

Milcar · 05/07/2023 08:42

WatchOutMissMarpleIsAbout · 05/07/2023 08:29

I thought ‘recollections may vary’ was excellent.

Retired solicitor. Often when taking witness statements the same event would be viewed differently.

There was usually each participants ‘truth’ then the actual truth was somewhere in the middle.

And if witness statements are too similar then they are suspect! Because we all inevitably see things from a different angle, not only physically but mentally.

queenofarles · 05/07/2023 08:57

Where's he getting his info for his 'tell all' book?
Probably from the two people he know via their friends ,
but most importantly who calls a book endgame like it’s some sort of a fan fiction series ? .

Morestrangerthings · 05/07/2023 08:57

Hence, Harry writing ‘his truths.’ He realises that peoples memories of the same event differ.

Milcar · 05/07/2023 09:06

Morestrangerthings · 05/07/2023 08:57

Hence, Harry writing ‘his truths.’ He realises that peoples memories of the same event differ.

Exactly. Recollections vary

Whatshallabee · 05/07/2023 09:11

I think Kate’s clothes are discussed in the Royal Style and Beauty thread. And Max. Because she is a sartorial legend.

MarcelProust · 05/07/2023 09:38

SidekickSylvia · 05/07/2023 07:57

This is what I wonder. There's no way that anybody in the royal family is talking to him (other than H and M), or anyone who is loyal to TRF, whether staff or friends. He's never been on the royal rota and is a self styled royal reporter. His connection to Meghan is through Markus Anderson, there has never been a royal connection. So to those who think this book (and his previous one) will be a credible, truthful account of anything, why? Who do you think is giving him information? And if it's the same people who told him HMTLQ was coming to the UK from Scotland (!) by train, then why on earth would you believe a word of it?

He announced the book ages ago. He spoke to over 100 people for Finding Freedom. As confirmed by Jason Knauf, he was at the palace taking information, so I think hence he realised her has enough material for another book, now about the palace.

He was part of the rota - that was how he met Harry one time. Though I believe after Finding Freedom success or the court appearance, William wanted to boost him out of the Royal Rota.

MarcelProust · 05/07/2023 09:41

tigger2022 · 04/07/2023 14:46

I think the issue was that they were issuing a lecture on service to someone who, no matter your POV, can be said to have served for a very long time… when they’re not actually doing any sort of service whatsoever. Service isn’t universal, because not everyone is doing it.

The point being that anyone can do it.

PS: I don't think that statement about conflict of service came from the queen either, I think it was the same as the recollections and some courtier wrote it up.

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