Omid Scobie writing tell all book

[CosmosQueen]

The biographer of the Duke and Duchess of Sussexwarned that his next book will reveal moments that the Royal family should be “ashamed of”.
Omid Scobie claimed he was one of few journalists writing about the Royal family whose work was impartial and “spin-free”
As such, he said his forthcoming book, provocatively titled Endgame: Inside the Royal Family and the Monarchy’s Fight for Survival, would focus on the negative as much as the positive and would shine a light on “unsolved mysteries”
“Endgame not only looks at the successes of our Royal family but also the failures; the things to be proud of and those they should be ashamed of,” he wrote in the I newspaper

Just when will this end? I feel so sorry for their poor children who will have to live with the knowledge that their parents and his obnoxious individual were prepared to do anything to make money.

I don't think that republican views have been shot down (although you may disagree) so much as Harry and Meghan being seen as some sort of quasi republican standard bearers. They're not. They're very clearly monarchists. I can see that people may support them in the hope that their issues may further a republican cause, however.
If it becomes a republican/monarchist debate then that means that the issues involved aren't really discussed, at least not in a nuanced way.

I am fine with it when it's fair disagreement and I don't want to bring up the past, but there have been a lot of PAs now deleted. No point me going on about it. But to feel you've got half a dozen posters all jumping in can be quite upsetting, when it becomes personal.
I do step back on a fair few threads now, easiest way, it's just not worth it so when you say why do I post then, I suppose I feel I have as much right to as anyone else! I know what you're saying isn't an attack btw! 👍

Thanks for all the nice comments folks 😊😊

I’m sorry you’ve been upset Roussette 💐

Fair point that being pro-H & M is not the same as being Republican but it’s easy to see why the two get tangled up!

Apologies my second point there was intended for Maireas!

None of us really know what goes on in the RF - it is all speculation and we all have our biases or a lot of us do.

I so agree with this. We probably only know 10% of what goes on, we are not privy to their phone calls, private conversations, arguments, peaceful discussions or whatever. We're fed a line from the media and we can speculate all we like, we just don't know much at all

They really should do a RF version of love island then we would know more and we could vote off the ones we don't like @Roussette ;)

I think we are talking more specifically about the RF though and about H & M in particular.

Yes, that's a fair point. I should have made the link that the media presentation of H&M plays a role in how we view them. And the benefit of reading more than one source as reports are not necessarily right or wrong, but come from a point of view/bias. Hence why I don't mind reading what Piers Morgan and Dan Wootton say, as much as I am reading other columnists with contrasting opinions.

I liked Harry and Meghan (from her time in Suits) but they've lost my sympathy. You can't lecture about the environment and fly in private jets (I know they're not the only ones). In the spirit of fairness, I thought the same about William hunting and supporting initiatives on rhino poaching.

I'm not particularly pro the monarchy but the public airing of dirty washing by H&M and wanting to be out of the RF while trading constantly on their titles gets wearing. Go and live your best life (as much as I hate that phrase) but stop making money by slagging off your family.

@Cherrymuffincake202
Thank you. I'm fine, it's in the past and I'm learning to walk away, it's just not worth it

Fair point that being pro-H & M is not the same as being Republican but it’s easy to see why the two get tangled up!

It's an interesting one this. Just because I think H&M are at times treated unfairly and I hate the multi million pound hate industry swirling round them, doesn't mean to say I am royalist. It's hard to explain. I admire them for leaving, I think they got a lot wrong and deserve some criticism but absolutely nothing like the amount they get

Haha, well it is all a bit of a soap opera isn't it?!! Years ago the RF could keep a lid on it,they can't now!

I agree, @grass321 . In a nutshell.

I've stopped posting often, because of the bullying and venom of a few posters , it cuts both ways unfortunately.

Roussette does get attacked, quite regularly.

Now you know this , you’ll probably see it. And once you see it, you see how often:

Rousette brings a lot of interesting insights to this RF forum. Like you, I welcome her contributions.

Even though they all have their own very big houses/palaces, it’s still a family business and it’s rare to find a family business that doesn’t have internal conflict. I’m told conflict free family businesses exist, and I believe they probably do, but I’ve experienced and seen more than one in my time, and have seen how it can be very bad for family relationships.

I do step back on a fair few threads now, easiest way, it's just not worth it so when you say why do I post then, I suppose I feel I have as much right to as anyone else! I know what you're saying isn't an attack btw! 👍

I’m glad you understood the spirit of my post @Roussette, I’m not in any way questioning your right to post wherever you like, nor do I have a problem with us having differing views (we also share some!). 😁

I’m always interested to hear a different perspective but I wish there was a bit less aggression on these threads. It’s why I lurk more than post, as a rule. I don’t fall out with people in real life so I’m not going to start with strangers on the internet!

Oh yes. A few days ago posters touched on how toxic it can be working for a family business, and one poster related a horrendous story of what she went through. And really it IS a family business. There will be all manner of friction, arguments, alliances being formed, then broken, courtiers currying favour, leaking, it will be endless.
(Do watch Versailles shown earlier in the year on BBC, it was gobsmacking the internal conflict with the courtiers and the royals and I though to myself, if the RF have 10% of this it must be a nightmare!)

(And thank you for your kind words 🙂)

shame, can't say I have seen non pro posters being bullied. but not good if its happened.

Most posters aren't "haters" and I think it's just plain wrong to characterise anyone who may make a comment that's not praise as a hater. Especially when they might also post supportive comments about other circumstances, or blame sheer bad luck.

"Whereas Harry’s case is that the opposite happened and the lesser members of the RF were used by the main players to deflect negative reporting away from them!"

Yet again this claim. Can you link to some evidence that prove this happened?

I've said it before, and I'm saying it again.

You are not a Republican if you support H&M. You are a Royalist who supports a specific couple who are members of the Royal Family (the only reason you even know about them).

A true Republican wouldn't support any member of the RF.

Posted too soon.

H&M supporters are Royalists who lob republican-lite negativity at other members of the Royal family because they're not H&M.

i try to avoid using that now, so go with not pro. yet pro posters get abuse and get called stans.

@Maireas I don’t agree with your distinction.

I know ( maybe most ) republicans criticise H and M as part of their criticism of monarchy .
But I have found their story very illuminating .
It is clear as day to me that the uk ‘royals’ are kept in place by an insidious media which feeds endless obvious and not so obvious propaganda. Alliances are clear and some ‘royals’ have mouthpieces disguised as ‘journalists ‘.

H and M provided a clap back to all that bullshit . It is refreshing to see their story and they have told the truth re the machinations of the ‘royal’ family firm .
Look at Harry’s legal case - how little is reported in MSM .

There is a regular pile on against Roussette - it’s a sign that she has logic and facts at ther fingertips and I’m glad to see her resilience on these threads

@MrsFinkelstein

Not true .
im a Republican who follows H and M .
I don’t like racism or right with propaganda - H and M suffer from both

Well, @Novella4 - I disagree that H&M provided a clap back, I think they didn't have a life that suited them, so wanted it to change. Fair enough. I think they didn't necessarily want everything to change because they wanted a Sussex Royal version, sort of half way house. If they wanted change, they would have wanted out. No titles, no links, just out.

I'm sorry, but who are you to deem that I am not a Republican if I support Harry and Meghan?
You can say it all you like, you are incorrect as far as I am concerned with my views.
I hate bullying, I think they have made mistakes, they have done some wrongs, but they do not deserve the level of vitriol and hate they receive. Now... I know you are going to answer and say .. what about them wanting titles ofr their children, what about Meghan being duchess of sussex etc etc.

I will answer you on that. Whilst we have a Monarchy that is clearly going nowhere they are quite entitled to use those titles if they so wish. If the whole jolly lot of them are defunct (not happening in my lifetime or my childrens) well... then they can ditch the titles along with the rest of them. I support them because of the treatment they have received.

A true Republican wouldn't support any member of the RF
If they were being vicously bullied day in day out, I would. The Monarchy is hear to stay and whilst it is, I will hold what views I want on any or all of them.

Harry was wise to leave.