Omid Scobie writing tell all book

[CosmosQueen]

The biographer of the Duke and Duchess of Sussexwarned that his next book will reveal moments that the Royal family should be “ashamed of”.
Omid Scobie claimed he was one of few journalists writing about the Royal family whose work was impartial and “spin-free”
As such, he said his forthcoming book, provocatively titled Endgame: Inside the Royal Family and the Monarchy’s Fight for Survival, would focus on the negative as much as the positive and would shine a light on “unsolved mysteries”
“Endgame not only looks at the successes of our Royal family but also the failures; the things to be proud of and those they should be ashamed of,” he wrote in the I newspaper

Just when will this end? I feel so sorry for their poor children who will have to live with the knowledge that their parents and his obnoxious individual were prepared to do anything to make money.

@Cherrymuffincake202
Thank you and yes. It's all so very odd, anything that is even remotely positive has to be dampened down and attacked, as it appears to mortally offend some posters, almost like a personal affront to some people because only negativity is allowed. I very rarely speak about anything personal on here, and it has been dismissed as hearsay, my friend will laugh at that!

All I know is the Bristol charity really welcomed her visit, she was hands on helping and however much ridiculing the banana messages posters on here do, it was totally the opposite for the CEO of the charity and the actual vulnerable women (perhaps what Anna Smith said is hearsay too!)
One25 CEO Anna Smith says it was a moment she will never forget. "That really touched me—and I’m not even a royalist," Smith says. "She was just watching the food being packed up and suddenly decided she wanted to write these beautiful messages on every banana they had there. She had clearly listened and heard what we are all about—that we don't judge, we simply offer the service and unconditional love. She totally got it."
And that is the same message I got from my friend who volunteers there and I don't care who dismisses it, because I'd rather listen to those on the front line of the charity.

Now..... your family member's little charity she volunteers at, sounds brilliant! There are so many wonderful people out there working their socks off helping others and to read that MM made many such donations as these during covid is good to hear.

It's interesting to contrast how things play in the media with how they are received on the ground. The banana writing and the tour in the Caribbean are two good examples of times I've read really positive things from those directly concerned but really negative things in the media. It must be confusing to be the well meaning individual at the centre of the story.

Meghan seems to be good at personally connecting with people she meets, maybe if they are a bit out of the public eye she can do that more because it must be soul destroying to have the media tear down your every effort to help others. I've always felt that she'd needs to be able to take time to quietly build a reputation with charities she really cares about and then launch out. I am not sure what Harry can do it must be hard living with him with his endless negativity and media paranoia.

I'm not sure Scobie's new book is going to be helpful to anyone. He increasingly comes across to me as someone who hinders more than he helps and who doesn't have the depth of knowledge he thinks he has. Time will tell I suppose.

Surely it’s obvious to most people that if you ever find yourself on the same side as Piers Morgan or Dan Wootten (sp?) then you need to give yourself a big old shake and a talking to?

Not really. I share some of their views, but not others. There's very few people that I'd rule out ever agreeing with on any topic (although I'd put Putin in this category as he borders on insanity).

By the same token, I'm a Conservative voter but disagree with some of their views and agree with Starmer on other issues (and occasionally Farage which I know will cause suitable outrage).

I hear you, @grass321 . I think society has become very polarised, good/bad, nuance of argument gets lost.

Yep! Even if people dislike M & H from what they have seen of them so far, surely they recognise that 95% of what they read about them has been filtered through very biaised tabloid newspapers, which protect the inner core of the establishment however people like to argue that they don’t!

As for the donation (yes it is a brilliant charity btw!😀 ) my family member commented on how well researched and strategic the decision was to denote to them in particular in terms of of direct impact; so very good ground work by MM and her team.

And Piers Morgan and Dan Wootten do nothing to encourage that of course!

Let’s not pretend Maireas that any of the long time posters on this board who attack Meghan and Harry on a regular basis are “nuanced” in their approach. They are always posting unredeemingly negative things about them; it’s very rarely a mix of good points and bad points.

very true.
being in anyway positive about them leads to a pile on. look at the way Rousette is treated. worse case posters are hounded so much they give up posting(or retaliate and get banned/suspended)

But strangely I see it more on the left on MN than the right.

There's a lot of pearl clutching on MN about the Mail. I read the Mail and the Telegraph. And the Guardian, BBC News, the FT and sometimes the Observer. I reckon that gives me a decent range of views from which I make my own mind up.

MN seems to descend into left = all things holy and good, right = evil scum of the earth. There's good and bad on both sides of the political spectrum and free speech should be about embracing different views and a healthy debate.

Absolutely this^^

I’m so glad you’ve confirmed Samcro this as I’ve been second guessing myself at times if I was being unfair or if my perception was skewed but I do agree about the poor way Roussette is treated and about the general pile ons and shut downs.

Yup. The grievances never end.

I think we are talking more specifically about the RF though and about H & M in particular.

Nor others, @Cherrymuffincake202

I'm not pretending anything.
I'm saying nuance is lost. Things are very rarely good/bad.

I couldn't agree more, @grass321 and it's utterly hopeless to have a sensible discussion about migration or Brexit, for example. I find it a bit depressing, really. However, that's online discussion threads for you.

I think that donation of £10k is great, @Cherrymuffincake202 - that's a real difference to a small charity. It saddens me that it's all gone wrong for whatever reason or reasons.

Of course on-line discussion is polarised. I agree that it is hard to have a sensible discussion about anything without it blowing up!

However I think this is a bit of a disingenuous point with regard to royalty in general and the coverage of H & M in particular!

I am not talking about you in particular Maireas but quite a few anti M & H folk pro-Monarchy contingent on here seem to be either dripping with venom or determined to shut down any discussion which contains the word “republic” - opinions aren’t just allowed to stand - they are constantly quoted and pulled apart.

And and it’s people like Roussette who are much more tolerant and graceful under attack.

I think it's important to remember - we're talking about people. Humans who make mistakes. There's too much personal vilification. I think, however, you can criticise a person's behaviour - their dishonesty or hypocrisy for example, without damning them completely. That's where the problem lies.

I totally agree with you there Maireas !

I don’t see Roussette being attacked, and I’ve been reading these boards for years. I see her being challenged, as she challenges others, but I get the feeling she enjoys it. Otherwise why would she post so frequently and on so many RF threads? And that isn’t an attack, @Roussette, I welcome your contributions as they put some pepper in the discussion.

The donation has indeed made a huge difference and I know personally that the charity do excellent work.

There was very little fanfare about it. MM signed the cheque herself without any publicity and it arrived out of the blue quite a while after a visit. They were incredibly surprised to receive it!

So when you talk about “where it has all gone wrong” I think part of it - please note I said part not all - is the way the public’s opinion of them has been skewed in the tabloids - in what often seems like a deliberate PR campaign at times in which the likes of Clarkson and Morgan are leading players - and then a headline gets picked up by a Mumsnetter or a Reddit user who start threads and then it all snowballs… .

Whereas a gesture like this donation is rarely amplified. It was largely reported in local press and then was picked up by a few of the nationals. The Mirror reported it but there weren’t many stories about it.

So if you take that as one incident which is replicated 1000 times over - no wonder the good things they do go unnoticed or are under acknowledged - and the bad things they do are repeated again and again as nauseam. And they end up in the position that anything they do is misconstrued.

I’m sorry but I can’t help but think the establishment who at the centre benefit from a bit of a protective reporting bubble could have stepped in to protect them better; which is Harry’s main grievance I believe.

I totally believe you @Roussette because we all have differing experiences with people.

For example, a close friend of mine also worked with Omid at Heat but talks very differently of him than the poster on this thread. I suspect both are correct in their memories just had different experiences with him.

I assume Scobie needs to earn £££ if the reports about his company are true so of course he is going to sensationalise what will be in his book - he would be stupid not too as the pre-sales are very important.

None of us really know what goes on in the RF - it is all speculation and we all have our biases or a lot of us do.

I think it's hard to unpick Harry's main grievance. There's a free press, so how far do you push back? Where's the line? What is allowable and what is not?
Someone gave me a link to an American comedian's social media in which his running joke is that Camilla looks like a horse. No one says "Joe Biden should stop that". I think press standards should be higher, but the genie is out of the social media bottle.

Maybe “attack” is the wrong word. Perhaps “targeted” would be better.

And I think she posts as frequently on the Royal board as some loyal monarchists tbh!

As I said though (and I think *Roussette will hopefully agree with this) even more worrying is the constant shutting down of any Republican comment - even when reasonable and respectful - it almost feels like an orchestrated campaign at times.

I think there is a difference in reading a comment, disagreeing with it and either (a) letting it stand or (b) addressing it respectfully versus repeatedly quoting and pedantically negating every detail in post after post - especially those which mention republicanism. No wonder people resort to protesting with placards really when a good general discussion about republicanism on sm is so little tolerated!

(And yes I realise I can probably be accused of quoting and being pedantic with this post but I am making a specific point.)

Yes but Charles and Camilla and the institution of the monarchy has huge soft power and influence and they could have warned some of the tabloids off using access as leverage.

Whereas Harry’s case is that the opposite happened and the lesser members of the RF were used by the main players to deflect negative reporting away from them!