Harry and Megan dubbed "fucking grifters" Part Deux

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Harry and Meghan slammed by Spotify executive after podcast deal ends | The Independent

The old thread got closed, just as I was trying to quote tweet someone! So I've started this one, because this shitshow is still rumbling on

'So Meghan deserves that list of insults which were a small part of what was actually posted.'

Nope, neither her nor Catherine deserve any insults, they don't deserve any horrible criticisms about hairdos, skin, figures.

The Sussexes however deserve all the criticism they get for their publicity stunts. Nothing since their New York circus though, so as i say perhaps they are finally listening to advice to stfu.

None of this is bullying or racism though? It's just people talking about a celebrity. I didn't realise we're meant to show unquestioning devotion and admiration for some B-list Sleb, like the subjects of the Emperor with No Clothes?

@Roussette that Angelou poem is so clumsy and cringingly trite. I always get a tad frustrated that that's the work of hers that most people know, when there is so much better in her oeuvre. It would be like if Shakespeare was only known for a midsummer night's dream and not his Big Four. Yeuch.

Also, you realise you don't have to think in polar binaries right? Liking Megan doesn't mean disliking Thomas Markle. He cared for Megan for years whilst Doria was away, paid for her college and his relative got Megan that UN internship that enabled her to call herself an activist. Seems like a pretty good parent if you ask me.

Let's not forget they wanted half in half out, Sussex royal USA.

That this is even listed as one of the crimes which means they deserve this shitstorm is astounding to me. I don't see why adults deciding how much of their time they give to an institution of any kind is such an outrage. Plenty of other royals do it.

People realise that there are people in prison for threats to them right? That behaviour doesn't come out of nowhere. Those people are emboldened by the papers, and all the social media hate. You're part of what drives them whether you want to admit it or not. So no, they do not deserve to be threatened and hounded like this. Nobody does.

Also, you realise you don't have to think in polar binaries right? Liking Megan doesn't mean disliking Thomas Markle. He cared for Megan for years whilst Doria was away, paid for her college and his relative got Megan that UN internship that enabled her to call herself an activist. Seems like a pretty good parent if you ask me.

He tried to blackmail and threaten her if she didn't;t contact him, he sat next to his other children one of whom wore blackface to impersonate Meghan. he's a repulsive disgusting father.

'Sir Trevor Phillips said the Duchess of Sussex, 41, 'never regarded herself particularly as black' before joining the Royal Family, which he said was 'understandable' due to her privileged upbringing. But the race and equality campaigner claimed Meghan then failed to 'take advice' after becoming a princess and 'squandered the opportunity' to demonstrate the diversity of Britain. '

Yes such a shame.

You should definitely avoid cultivating a career in film and then marrying a world famous posh bloke and working proactively to keep yourself in the press.

If you avoid all of that you should be able to avoid people talking about you in the papers, magazines and on tv/forums.

I'll be rooting for you.

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Really good article here by an American on why M&H have lost support.

"She needs new underwear"

That's just good advice. Not all her underwear, just her strapless bras. It's something her friends maybe don't like to mention.

I had a friend that told me I needed new bras.

I think criticism of personal characteristics is cruel and unfair. Criticism of behavior is fair game.

I read an article on succeeding at work and the writer had a theory that to be successful in a team situation you had to have at least two of the following qualities - hard worker, brilliant at the key skills required, likable and easy to get on with.

All three would be great but a team can thrive when everyone is a combination of at least two.

So you can forgive the grumpy co-worker who can fix everything instantly and works like a maniac, and you can put up with the one who isn’t brilliant at the job but is also a really hard worker who is wonderful to be around and keeps the team happy and focused. And there’s usually a place for the genius and loveable slacker because their expertise is just what you need and they are always in a positive supportive mood.

So you can see how that works in the Royal family ‘team’

The late Queen - had all three
Prince Philip - hard worker and was good at the things he focused on (not always the most likable - rude short temper)

Charles / Anne - like their father

William / Kate - have yet to put the hours in but they succeed on being very good at the job and being very likable.

Pre Meghan Harry was good at the job and seemed very likable - the most likable to many.

So with Meghan it looked like they were on to a winner - she was clearly a hard worker pre Harry, she looked like she’d have all the skills for the job, her public persona seemed lovely.

But what’s come out since seems to show that since leaving - Harry’s nice persona was very much a fair weather construct and he was only really good at the royaling but wasn’t able to turn that into another job, and he was never a hard worker.

With Meghan - I think the royal experience blew her brain because she seems to have lost the get up and go hard working ethic she had in her Suits and Tig days - she’s not highly enough skilled in the areas they’ve tried to pursue and there are way too many stories about how she is with staff to believe she’s easy going and easy to work with.

I think if folk are noticing your underpinnings in a lovely frock or whatever, then it is a sure sign it you’ve got it wrong.

It makes such a difference to your appearance if you get it right and no one notices it then. They just see a great shape and/or a lovely outfit.

A good friend would say.

Also if you notice that your underpinnings aren’t doing what they’re supposed to - I sometimes wonder if Camilla has forgotten to put her bra on because sometimes she looks very well supported and then other times…^^

Agree a good friend. I would never talk about someone like that online though.

I hate how women get picked apart for their bodies, hair, style, etc.

Because the Sussexes wanted all of the fun, and none of the graft. They wanted to be able to trade on their Royal connections, to make money from them, whilst wafting around occasionally. What they didn't want was the boring bridge-opening ceremonies and planting of trees.

And they wanted to profit from being in the RF. That is the bit that Meghan didn't understand - there is a delicate treaty between crown and populace.

I think the Queen might just have comfy days. I’m guilty of that. I have days when I’m in my comfiest bra which is about as supportive as cheese strings.

For work I’m usually trussed up. If I know i’m going into a shift of nightmares, I go as comfy as I can be. If my bosom looks miserably contained, I can guarantee it will be the very last thing on my mind.

I didn't realise we're meant to show unquestioning devotion and admiration for some B-list Sleb

There is a huge chasm between unquestioning devotion (no one on here has that despite what you might like to think,) and comments like that all posted in a couple of hours. Do you post about anyone else like that? Famous people?

I don't. There are a couple of famous ppl I am not keen on, I go out of my way to avoid reading or posting about them

Seems like a pretty good parent if you ask me

Gosh. See Iwantcakes post at 15.16 and tell me that again

Why are people just picking up on her underwear. It's far more than that, that has been posted. It was everything about every bit of her in a sneery ridiculing nasty way. But she deserves it 😮

More and more I am seeing the underlying message on this thread. They deserve everything that comes to them

Whatever that might be 😳

I can’t even work out who we’re talking about anymore 🤣 I have stopped talking about Kate’s outfits mostly because I sort of took her new stance of not announcing the designers any more as her not wanting to be judged by her outfits, so I was like fine, I can deal with that, sniff.

This!

No one really cares if the dm said her dress wasn't nice or if Catherine's kids are dressed like victorian era kids. It's all par for the course with celeb scrutiny. No different to what they've all experienced.

The fact is Harry wanted to use the rf platform to propel them into USA superstardom, wasn't allowed, tried and failed to do it himself and has been kicking off ever since.

But her good friends clearly aren't telling her.

There was a woman in her late 40s in my hairdressers wearing leggings. She looked fine from the front but at the back where they were a bit stretched, you could see right through. Now, I would contend most normal women don't want to be walking around showing off their squashed, utilitarian and imperfectly positioned underwear. But at the same time I don't want to be rude nor make her feel uncomfortable. So I waited til her hair was finished, she has her coat on and she'd left the shop. Then I ran after her, where no one could hear, and I quickly mentioned it and ran back inside. She'll see me again and I've given her the hope that no one else she knows has ever noticed.

I can't tell Meghan in person or I would. She's ruining the line of her beautiful clothes and I think a moment of embarrassment is worth a lifetime of confidence in and admiration of your style.

*There is a huge chasm between unquestioning devotion (no one on here has that despite what you might like to think,) and comments like that all posted in a couple of hours. Do you post about anyone else like that? Famous people?

I don't. There are a couple of famous ppl I am not keen on, I go out of my way to avoid reading or posting about them *

Agree completely @Roussette . Its a parenting site, so I think, would my children think I practice what I preach to them about being kind and decent if they read what I wrote? Would I want my children to see me write negative post after negative post for days and months on end about the same person?

'Would I want my children to see me write negative post after negative post for days and months on end about the same person?'

Wonder what Harry's kids will think when they see the reality shows, chat shows, books interviews that he has done all containing negative attacks on his UK family?

Quite Janiie

Oooo. Very good. Touché.

Like Harry has done about his family, you mean?