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Harry and Megan dubbed "fucking grifters" Part Deux

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Qbish · 27/06/2023 12:06

Harry and Meghan slammed by Spotify executive after podcast deal ends | The Independent

The old thread got closed, just as I was trying to quote tweet someone! So I've started this one, because this shitshow is still rumbling on

Spotify executive hits out at Harry and Meghan after podcast deal ends

Sussexes inked three-year $25m deal with audio company but produced just one series of content

https://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/harry-meghan-spotify-deal-grifters-b2360608.html

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User34352515 · 29/06/2023 10:48

AutumnCrow · 28/06/2023 17:53

That Guardian writer, Stuart Heritage, is like 'Guardian royalty' in the UK!

I'm absolutely stunned by the U-turn by the Guardian. A few years ago that article could only have been some Piers Morgan column in the DM but from the Stuart Heritage! Incredible.

H&M's celebrity brand was always protected and pushed onto the public by certain types of media. People felt obliged to like them if they identify with specific liberal, feminist or progressive values. The same vibe as liking Greta Thunberg, Malala Yousafzai, Amal Clooney etc, although those are obviously far more deserving of their fame. There were loads of white, female influencers who "loved" Meghan as it was an easy way to show their performative liberalism. To dislike her or even attempt to give valid criticism meant you could instantly be branded a racist and that was too risky. It seems like the gloves are ultimately off now and everyone is free to express their opinion.

The question is where do they go from here?
They've not produced the goods. Their brand hasn't taken off. They've turned so many people against them, alienated his family.

Pretty sure this wasn't the 5 year plan they envisioned. Meghan still has many cards to play as she is in her home country with her children, mother and friends. She should honestly follow Wendi Deng's footsteps and marry upwards into eye-watering wealth but extremely discreetly. Then just enjoy her luxury life without making many media appearances anymore. If Harry returns to the UK alone someday then he might be reaccepted by the RF. Pretty sure W&K would find it difficult to ostracise him after all this. He can also continue a low-key life under the protection of the RF and maybe even remarry and have more kids.

Littlethingsmeanalot · 29/06/2023 11:17

I don’t think it’s as simple as harry coming back. They have two little children, neither will wish to live across the pond from them and have sporadic and limited visits. Nor be commuting weekly and keeping a separate home and adequate security.

So if they split, harry will need to stay in the us. Which will be horrific for him due to the isolation it will bring.

He, supported by Charles can lay on a massive fight to have the kids raised in the uk, I suspect they would win, due to an old royal prerogative where effectively Charles is their guardian, but I’m not sure they would go there.

hopefully they stay together as I think a split would be very very complex due to the kids.

Iwantcakeeveryday · 29/06/2023 11:31

"You may write me down in history, with your bitter twisted lies.
You may trod me in the very dirt, but still like dust I rise...'

I often think of this poem by Maya Angelou when I read some of the truly awful things written about Meghan.

'Still I Rise' by Maya Angelou (Live performance)

(Final poem from 'Maya Angelou - Live and Unplugged')Still I RiseYou may write me down in historyWith your bitter, twisted lies,You may trod me in the very d...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qviM_GnJbOM

Rhondaa · 29/06/2023 11:39

Iwantcakeeveryday · 29/06/2023 11:31

"You may write me down in history, with your bitter twisted lies.
You may trod me in the very dirt, but still like dust I rise...'

I often think of this poem by Maya Angelou when I read some of the truly awful things written about Meghan.

What poem do you think about when you read some of the truly awful things the Sussexes have said about the rf publicly. Doing far worse than what her own father did to them??

AliceOlive · 29/06/2023 11:53

Oh please. Meghan is no Maya Angelou. Please don’t compare.

jeffgoldblum · 29/06/2023 11:54

Yep! @AliceOlive , quite insulting really!

Morestrangerthings · 29/06/2023 11:58

Rhondaa · 29/06/2023 11:39

What poem do you think about when you read some of the truly awful things the Sussexes have said about the rf publicly. Doing far worse than what her own father did to them??

I wantcake said 'awful things written about Meghan' . There have been horrendous vile things written about Meghan. And a lot of it has been in the traditional media. How quickly we forget Jeremy Clarkson's mind filth published by the Sun - and 25,000 complaints to IPSO about it and six months later it's.... crickets. It wasn't just Clarkson's obscene rant though, was it? 60 negative articles about Meghan written in one day by one tabloid.

Morestrangerthings · 29/06/2023 12:01

I don't mean @Iwantcakeeveryday said awful things. I mean she wrote about awful things being written about Meghan. My language and layout messed that up. I agree with Iwantcake. People, sm, tabloids and even broadsheets have written 'awful things.'

LadyMuckingabout · 29/06/2023 12:07

I saw the SussexSquad were lobbing grenades at the Swifties: turning down Archetypes apparently makes Taylor Swift a racist…

Roussette · 29/06/2023 12:13

AliceOlive · 29/06/2023 11:53

Oh please. Meghan is no Maya Angelou. Please don’t compare.

I think you've missed the point entirely there....

Rhondaa · 29/06/2023 12:27

'People, sm, tabloids and even broadsheets have written 'awful things.'

Yes and as I said so have the Sussexes. It's all bit kettle and pot for me. You'd think if the media had said awful things you wouldn't then want to be paid by the media to say awful things about your own family, no?

Roussette · 29/06/2023 12:34

Rhondaa · 29/06/2023 12:27

'People, sm, tabloids and even broadsheets have written 'awful things.'

Yes and as I said so have the Sussexes. It's all bit kettle and pot for me. You'd think if the media had said awful things you wouldn't then want to be paid by the media to say awful things about your own family, no?

So they have to lie down and take everything written about them
Okaaaay....😳

Iwantcakeeveryday · 29/06/2023 12:35

AliceOlive · 29/06/2023 11:53

Oh please. Meghan is no Maya Angelou. Please don’t compare.

Its not a comparison to her!I shall post what I wish to. This poem speaks to me and many other woc.

Iwantcakeeveryday · 29/06/2023 12:37

jeffgoldblum · 29/06/2023 11:54

Yep! @AliceOlive , quite insulting really!

What is insulting about a woc sharing a poem that speaks to her and reminds her of how huge amounts of people are treating another woc? Please don't tell me I have insulted anyone by sharing a poem.

Rhondaa · 29/06/2023 12:43

Roussette · 29/06/2023 12:34

So they have to lie down and take everything written about them
Okaaaay....😳

No, they can stand up and complain about the media as much as they like.

What they shouldn't do is, like her father, reveal private information about family members to the highest bidder. Breaching other people's privacy when they are so vocal about how horrid it is when done to them. But then we know they are hypocrites so here we are.

Roussette · 29/06/2023 12:47

Iwantcakeeveryday · 29/06/2023 12:37

What is insulting about a woc sharing a poem that speaks to her and reminds her of how huge amounts of people are treating another woc? Please don't tell me I have insulted anyone by sharing a poem.

Quite

I am not a woc but the words of the poem are beautiful, and I am sure very meaningful for many

Roussette · 29/06/2023 12:48

But then we know they are hypocrites so here we are

'We'
Your opinion.

Sugarfree23 · 29/06/2023 13:26

Littlethingsmeanalot · 29/06/2023 11:17

I don’t think it’s as simple as harry coming back. They have two little children, neither will wish to live across the pond from them and have sporadic and limited visits. Nor be commuting weekly and keeping a separate home and adequate security.

So if they split, harry will need to stay in the us. Which will be horrific for him due to the isolation it will bring.

He, supported by Charles can lay on a massive fight to have the kids raised in the uk, I suspect they would win, due to an old royal prerogative where effectively Charles is their guardian, but I’m not sure they would go there.

hopefully they stay together as I think a split would be very very complex due to the kids.

I'm not sure they'd go down the route of Charles being guardian either but at the same time....the RF will protect their own.

What happened with Andrew and Fergies kids, initially after divorce? Fergie certainly never got any massive pay off or she would have ended up skint. Same with Diana, and Mark Phillips.

I don't remember any big custody battles.

Littlethingsmeanalot · 29/06/2023 13:36

Sugarfree23 · 29/06/2023 13:26

I'm not sure they'd go down the route of Charles being guardian either but at the same time....the RF will protect their own.

What happened with Andrew and Fergies kids, initially after divorce? Fergie certainly never got any massive pay off or she would have ended up skint. Same with Diana, and Mark Phillips.

I don't remember any big custody battles.

But they all lived in the uk. It was very different, the context of my response was to the poster saying Megan in the us and harry in uk. I was making the point that would be difficult due to thr young children involved.

Littlethingsmeanalot · 29/06/2023 13:38

Roussette · 29/06/2023 12:34

So they have to lie down and take everything written about them
Okaaaay....😳

I read the posters response twice as I couldn’t fathom what you were responding to. They never said they should say nothing as they are guilty of much worse. The poster was simply saying yes journalists have wrote terrible things about Megan and harry, but both Megan and harry have said awful things about the royal family for much much more money than the journalists did. And that’s their actual family. Not someone they don’t personally know in the public eye for their job.

Rhondaa · 29/06/2023 14:08

Roussette · 29/06/2023 12:47

Quite

I am not a woc but the words of the poem are beautiful, and I am sure very meaningful for many

Yes just not actually relevant to the thread.

Roussette · 29/06/2023 14:09

Littlethingsmeanalot · 29/06/2023 13:38

I read the posters response twice as I couldn’t fathom what you were responding to. They never said they should say nothing as they are guilty of much worse. The poster was simply saying yes journalists have wrote terrible things about Megan and harry, but both Megan and harry have said awful things about the royal family for much much more money than the journalists did. And that’s their actual family. Not someone they don’t personally know in the public eye for their job.

On wading through your post, my response is...it is a multi million pound industry writing stuff about H& M. A lot of people have made a lot of money out of them. Countless books on Harry over the years too, I'm on my mob not my laptop where I had a montage of a huge amount of them

If he wants to write a book and right some wrongs, that's fine by me. The media write up to 30 articles a day on them, he can have his say

Rhondaa · 29/06/2023 14:19

'If he wants to write a book and right some wrongs, that's fine by me.'

Would it be fine by you if Markle Senior wrote a book righting the wrongs that Harold has spouted? I would guess not, because he's awful to breach their privacy but they are fiiiine to breach other's privacy 🤔.

You tie yourself in knots on these threads.

Littlethingsmeanalot · 29/06/2023 14:22

Roussette · 29/06/2023 14:09

On wading through your post, my response is...it is a multi million pound industry writing stuff about H& M. A lot of people have made a lot of money out of them. Countless books on Harry over the years too, I'm on my mob not my laptop where I had a montage of a huge amount of them

If he wants to write a book and right some wrongs, that's fine by me. The media write up to 30 articles a day on them, he can have his say

I waded through yours and my response is,,,no one made as much money as harry and Meghan did they…

I don’t care they wrote a book either, I genuinely don’t. The context of the conversation was someone quoted a poem saying she thought of that when she thought of all the bad things written about Megan. People are simply pointing out the Sussex’s are guilty of worse

Rhondaa · 29/06/2023 14:23

'The context of the conversation was someone quoted a poem saying she thought of that when she thought of all the bad things written about Megan. People are simply pointing out the Sussex’s are guilty of worse'

Exactly.

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