Harry and Megan dubbed "fucking grifters" Part Deux

[Qbish]

Harry and Meghan slammed by Spotify executive after podcast deal ends | The Independent

The old thread got closed, just as I was trying to quote tweet someone! So I've started this one, because this shitshow is still rumbling on

Just been themselves, lived their truth

Shone a light through the lens of inclusivity.

That Guardian writer, Stuart Heritage, is like 'Guardian royalty' in the UK!

Yes she does but that’s Miss H using Estelle as a puppet and a tool to wreak her twisted revenge fantasies. Estelle is very aware that she is being used like this and says so: she resents it even at a young age. End result is that Estelle is emotionally stunted and ends up being abused just as Miss H’s trust was abused by a man.

It is a rich seam as you say but for me the richness lies in Dickens’ unusually nuanced (for the times) understanding of generational abuse cycles and specifically emotional abuse. He demonstrates this in other works eg Bleak House. Man was a frickin genius.

Megsy Baby is very much not a genius and I think she would struggle to get a feminist reading out of Miss H’s early life tbh. And the fact that she thinks she can suggests to me that she hasn’t really done a close reading of the source material.

id love to know what Dickens would’ve made of Meg actually. He was so unbelievably good at capturing social hypocrisy and skewering self serving disingenuous masquerading as sincerity. He’d have had a field day.

That was me trying to reply to @Qbish btw 😀

I think Meghan is more of a Becky Sharp type 😉

Have to agree about Bleak House though, a work of genius.

In Bleak House: Mrs Jellyby and her "telescopic philanthropy". A case in point!

Did someone declare open season on them? He was talking to Piers Morgan but still.

Sir Trevor Phillips:
Meghan Markle 'had to learn how to be black on the job' after marrying Prince Harry but 'made a bit of a mess of it', it has been claimed.
Sir Trevor Phillips said the Duchess of Sussex, 41, 'never regarded herself particularly as black' before joining the Royal Family, which he said was 'understandable' due to her privileged upbringing.
But the race and equality campaigner claimed Meghan then failed to 'take advice' after becoming a princess and 'squandered the opportunity' to demonstrate the diversity of Britain.

The BBC series, Dickensian, did a good job at filling in some of the back stories to a number of female characters, including Lady Dedlock and Miss Haversham - the latter as a strong and confident businesswoman, before (inexplicably) falling for a cad. There's nothing new in the idea H&M idea at all.

In fact, I hadn't realised before today that there's a 2013 novel called Haversham by Ronald Frame. Again, we have a "feminist" Miss H, a cunning. businesswoman, whose newly fictionalised background just doesn't chime with the ending we know is coming. The reviews are interesting, and largely reflect the same argument - that you just cannot reconcile a sympathetic, feminist style character in the early years with the woman Miss Haversham decides she will become post jilting. Not without creating a much different plot and timeline than the original novel.

So it’s not a new idea then…

Here's the full Sir Trevor Philips interview with his remarks in context.

I'm not a royalist, but at least working RF are trying to benefit others and not trying to garner status, wealth and do SFA after given a title then FA and cream off of it ... and lies they can get away with ... I'm no royalist but H&M are just ... well ... grifters sums it up ... and is more pleasant than some other words people could call them TBH

Aahh is this MM jumping on another persons bandwagon to turn a few dollars ...again?!

Piers Morgan just yells over the top of everyone.

All three men interrupted and talked over Paula Rhone Adrien.

Rhone Adrien sits patiently, listening to their many opinions, but they all interrupt her repeatedly each time she speaks. And they do so loudly.

I have read Meghan Markle’s essays on her experiences of racism and being Black, written before she met Harry. I know of those published articles because people have linked to them on the RF threads multiple times.

The Royal Family are the Royal Family because they have ‘benefited off others’ to ‘garner status and wealth’. Historically they’ve pilfered from pretty much the whole world.

Once Harry has outlived his usefulness Megan will drop him like the proverbial hot tattie. Cue nother round of dollar wringing activity, my life with Harry, my divorce, blah, blah, blah.

Meghan bloody auto correct.

Boasts about her good works whilst neglecting and disregarding her own family. The parallels are uncanny!

And Harry is a little bit like Mr Skimpole in Bleak House imo
takes no responsibility for anything, claims he is but a child

It’s almost as if Dickens was writing about and populating … archetypes.

And brilliantly so.

I suspect Harry would identify with Jo the crossing sweeper.

@User34352515
That's a very good point on the Netflix deal, they were definitely looking for RF gossip. More stories for 'the crown'
And the RF knew it, candle & feathers, they went to some lengths to ensure H&Ms attempts were starved of oxygen, including their first half in/ half out plan.

It was reported that H&M were invited to a family gathering at Balmoral and refused to go.
Could they have been waiting for an opportunity to meet the Queen separately because the rest of the family would have been very wary of any sort of video footage?

The question is where do they go from here?
They've not produced the goods. Their brand hasn't taken off. They've turned so many people against them, alienated his family.

Paula Rhone Adrien is paid to be a regular panelist on Morgan's show. She knows exactly what she's there to do - take the opposite position to whatever PM thinks, and get shouted down for it. Everyone knows these types of shows are vehicles for the presenter to air his/her views and get the upper hand - it's not Newsnight. Nobody is forcing her to do the job, and I don't know why anyone with a shred of self respect, who does want an actual 2 way debate, would do it - other than for a nice pay cheque and media exposure they wouldn't otherwise have.

Trevor Philips was there to be interviewed as a special guest, he's not a regular panelist, hence he was able to have a long time to speak uninterrupted. TP is an absolute Titan of minority representation in the media, politics and wider society in the UK, do damned right, Paula and the other panelist should have sat there and listened to him. But clearly he's not the right kind of black man with the right opinions for the modern thinkers on race relations, judging by the hate filled bile being aimed at him by Meghan Markle supporters.

*hate filled, RACIST bile

Clearly (Trevor Philips) is not the right kind of black man with the right opinions for the modern thinkers on race relations, judging by the hate filled racist bile being aimed at him by Meghan Markle supporters

The more unbalanced supporters spew bile at anyone making unwelcome remarks, no matter how rational, but I can only imagine what would have happened had it been a white commentator who said what he did