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"They don't just report the news, they create it": on Meghan, Harry and the Press

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MrsMaxDeWinter · 21/06/2023 06:57

The much trumpeted story of the Dior deal is such a classic tabloid creation, isn't it.

I enjoyed this Grazia article that lays bare the utter nuttiness.

First the tabloids report the rumours as though they are true.

"Meghan to sign with Dior!"

No sources, just speculation based on Meghan and Harry wearing clothes by Dior a handful of times.

Then when both the Sussexes and Dior report that the rumours are not true, (Dior spokesperson said they are "nonplussed" about where the rumours came from) they spin it into "Meghan Rebuffed by Dior!"

This has also happened with Meghan's much rumoured run for the presidency: Robert Jobson actually wrote, with a straight face, in his book published in April 2023, that she was absolutely, certainly and most definitely going to run for president in 2024.

I mean any critical person would realise that the timelines don't make sense, she would have needed a fundraising Super PAC by the time the book was published, and in any event, Democrats don't normally challenge a sitting president ... but hey ho, Meghan is running for president in 2024 because a "Royal Correspondent" said so (and they are so knowledgeable about the American presidency) and a tabloid published it.

And it's the same with The Tig. She is going to launch it any day now. She wants to rival Gwyneth Paltrow! Story after story, based on nothing but speculation.

Rumour after rumour, speculation published as "news" to create media stories about a woman whose plans are not known to the tabloids because she and her husband made it crystal clear even when they were in the UK that they don't engage with the tabloid press.

And there are no "palace sources" who can speak with any kind of plausibility about the Sussexes, so the tabloids make it up as they go along, whipping up headline after headline, driving their readers into a frenzy over things they create ...

While ignoring the important news, like the damning questions by the judge in the Mirror Group case, who asked why the journalists, among them Piers Morgan, have not come to court to testify in the phone hacking trial ...

Oh no, that's not as important to report on as Meghan's fictitious Dior deal, completely implausible rumours of her presidential ambitions, and the speculated upon plans to best Gwyneth Paltrow!

https://graziadaily.co.uk/life/in-the-news/meghan-markle-smear-campaign-dior-spotify-faking-interviews/

There’s A New Meghan Markle Smear Campaign On The Rise

The latest bombshell news items about Meghan Markle have all the marks of a targeted hate campaign. Read more on Grazia.

https://graziadaily.co.uk/life/in-the-news/meghan-markle-smear-campaign-dior-spotify-faking-interviews

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Roussette · 13/07/2023 11:57

Samcro · 13/07/2023 11:52

so true in away, mn is also bad for the name changing, people can just name change and become someone else.

Don't we know it! I am so tempted to address posters by their previous name sometimes. Grin
But I do resist!!

derxa · 13/07/2023 12:06

Roussette · 13/07/2023 06:01

Thse threads are really funny now.

No news, nothing going on with the couple, invent something terrible or harp back to the same old same old that's been said before a million times.

I'm just relieved people are no longer referring to them as the 'young couple'.

Roussette · 13/07/2023 12:09

derxa · 13/07/2023 12:06

I'm just relieved people are no longer referring to them as the 'young couple'.

Haha, if they're a young couple, I'm barely middle aged! 🤣

costacoughee · 13/07/2023 12:10

Young couple 😂😂😂😂

Tiqtaq · 13/07/2023 12:11

Those who prefer that comments are made under people's real names are free to use their own names to post under, or to choose not to frequent forums where posters are anonymous.

As they are fully aware.

MrsMaxDeWinter · 13/07/2023 12:48

This thread is winding down ... I will do a new one later today inspired by an article by a cult survivor who likens her experience to harry's and makes the observation that "the family is the monarchy and the monarchy is the press."

Thanks for getting us this far without being deleted, see you on the next thread!!

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Roussette · 13/07/2023 12:52

MrsMaxDeWinter · 13/07/2023 12:48

This thread is winding down ... I will do a new one later today inspired by an article by a cult survivor who likens her experience to harry's and makes the observation that "the family is the monarchy and the monarchy is the press."

Thanks for getting us this far without being deleted, see you on the next thread!!

That would be interesting, especially as I am halfway through a podcast callefd 'Was I in a Cult' !!
It's fascinating if a bit horrific

MamoruHisaishi · 13/07/2023 13:38

Roussette · 13/07/2023 10:29

Is it really really an honest held view to actually say you are hoping they will crash and burn?

To me, that is not a view, it is wishing the very worst on two human beings. Nothing would be bad enough for them, in your opinion, I feel. Your loathing of them seeps through every post.

Criticise current actions by all means (there aren't any) but trawling the internet to denigrate them endlessly in your quest for them to crash and burn really isn't 'an honest held view'

Where did I say I was hoping for them to crash and burn? Can you please stop
Lying and falsely accusing me of things I never wrote? I stated I found it funny seeing them crash and burn after they dragged their family, because their own hubris has been their downfall. Nowhere does that imply I'm hoping for them to crash and burn.

MamoruHisaishi · 13/07/2023 13:40

Tiqtaq · 13/07/2023 12:11

Those who prefer that comments are made under people's real names are free to use their own names to post under, or to choose not to frequent forums where posters are anonymous.

As they are fully aware.

Exactly. I told the poster to lead by example and post their real name, but they've ignored my suggestion.

Roussette · 13/07/2023 13:43

@MamoruHisaishi

You said it this morning. 'How funny to watch them crash and burn'. Yep.

I'm really really glad to hear you don't mean that and you want that to stop and you hope they don't crash and burn. This is progress!

Mustardseed86 · 13/07/2023 13:48

MamoruHisaishi · 13/07/2023 13:38

Where did I say I was hoping for them to crash and burn? Can you please stop
Lying and falsely accusing me of things I never wrote? I stated I found it funny seeing them crash and burn after they dragged their family, because their own hubris has been their downfall. Nowhere does that imply I'm hoping for them to crash and burn.

It so does though. Come on.

MamoruHisaishi · 13/07/2023 13:51

Roussette · 13/07/2023 13:43

@MamoruHisaishi

You said it this morning. 'How funny to watch them crash and burn'. Yep.

I'm really really glad to hear you don't mean that and you want that to stop and you hope they don't crash and burn. This is progress!

Please explain how stating that I find it funny to watch them crash and burn means hoping for them to crash and burn?

I don't care enough about them to even hope for something bad to happen to them. But I do think they're jerks for shitting on their family during a time when their grandparent was dying because they didn't get their own way. And i guess what goes around comes around cos now they've got no one else to blame but themselves and their arrogance.

MamoruHisaishi · 13/07/2023 13:53

Mustardseed86 · 13/07/2023 13:48

It so does though. Come on.

explain how it does. Please. Tell me in detail how it means the same thing. One is a passive act, the other is making an effort by hoping or willing for something to happen.

Roussette · 13/07/2023 14:00

Please explain how stating that I find it funny to watch them crash and burn means hoping for them to crash and burn?

You've heard of splitting hairs... well this is a microscopic splitting of hairs! You don't care? Really?
Yet you are delighted they have been 'snubbed' by the Emmys and find it really funny they are crashing and burning. (according to your take on it) And all your threads you start are in the same vein.... "look, this has gone wrong for them, oh hey everyone, this isn't working, look at this article slagging them off" and so on

If, as you say, you don't wish this on them you wouldn't find what you consider a crash and burn funny.

MamoruHisaishi · 13/07/2023 14:05

Roussette · 13/07/2023 14:00

Please explain how stating that I find it funny to watch them crash and burn means hoping for them to crash and burn?

You've heard of splitting hairs... well this is a microscopic splitting of hairs! You don't care? Really?
Yet you are delighted they have been 'snubbed' by the Emmys and find it really funny they are crashing and burning. (according to your take on it) And all your threads you start are in the same vein.... "look, this has gone wrong for them, oh hey everyone, this isn't working, look at this article slagging them off" and so on

If, as you say, you don't wish this on them you wouldn't find what you consider a crash and burn funny.

Watching a car crash in slow motion is different from actively hoping for a car crash to happen.

Yeah I don't care for whatever happens to them even if I don't like them. I don't care if they win awards or get accolades. But its strangely fascinating to see karmic justice in action.

And seriously, you sound like you're having a melt down because I criticise the sussexes. Do you personally know them to care so much about other peoples opinions on them? If so, perhaps you should stop reading my comments and ignore.

Roussette · 13/07/2023 14:09

MamoruHisaishi · 13/07/2023 14:05

Watching a car crash in slow motion is different from actively hoping for a car crash to happen.

Yeah I don't care for whatever happens to them even if I don't like them. I don't care if they win awards or get accolades. But its strangely fascinating to see karmic justice in action.

And seriously, you sound like you're having a melt down because I criticise the sussexes. Do you personally know them to care so much about other peoples opinions on them? If so, perhaps you should stop reading my comments and ignore.

Now you are making me laugh even more
Having a meltdown? Nothing could be further from the truth. Cup of tea, homemade biscuit and Wimbledon semis, wot's not to like Tennis

I just find it amusing that someone says they don't want them to crash and burn whilst finding it really funny that they (according to you) errrmmm crash and burn. And keeps starting threads in that vein!

And I'll post where I want, when I want. All within TG.
Cheers!
Do feel free to ignore my comments which are obviously irritating you!

derxa · 13/07/2023 14:14

I don't want H&M to 'crash and burn'. I don't want anything bad to happen at all. However I will continue to disapprove of their trashing of the RF and anyone else who dares to criticise them. They made their money out of telling stories about their families which is despicable.

costacoughee · 13/07/2023 14:14

Taking words out of context is a H&M trait. I can give examples before you ask. Gaslighting another. Saying people find it funny to see the Sussexes crash and burn but conveniently leaving out the context of their vicious and damaging attacks on Harry's family - at a time one grandparent was dying and the other very elderly and dying not long after, is the context. And in that context I would also enjoy seeing their brand bite the dust. Which it has so karma has bit them on the bum for sure.

MamoruHisaishi · 13/07/2023 14:15

Roussette · 13/07/2023 14:09

Now you are making me laugh even more
Having a meltdown? Nothing could be further from the truth. Cup of tea, homemade biscuit and Wimbledon semis, wot's not to like Tennis

I just find it amusing that someone says they don't want them to crash and burn whilst finding it really funny that they (according to you) errrmmm crash and burn. And keeps starting threads in that vein!

And I'll post where I want, when I want. All within TG.
Cheers!
Do feel free to ignore my comments which are obviously irritating you!

Someone is obviously affected by what I wrote. Feel free to ignore mine. They're just comments, no need to get so affected by them especially when the people I'm discussing don't even know you exist. I know you think you're protecting them by attacking me but it won't make a difference whatsoever since I'm just a random stranger online.

I just ask you stop falsely accusing me of things, as I think thats uncalled for and just plain rude.

Howsimplywonderful · 13/07/2023 14:15

The essential point is they failed to get an Emmy nod, which may mean that Netflix will cut them loose.

MamoruHisaishi · 13/07/2023 14:17

Howsimplywonderful · 13/07/2023 14:15

The essential point is they failed to get an Emmy nod, which may mean that Netflix will cut them loose.

Exactly. That is the main point. At the end of the day, it doesn't matter if the documentary was rejected with disdain, the point is it was rejected because the quality wasn’t good enough to be recognised for a nomination.

Roussette · 13/07/2023 14:18

MamoruHisaishi · 13/07/2023 14:15

Someone is obviously affected by what I wrote. Feel free to ignore mine. They're just comments, no need to get so affected by them especially when the people I'm discussing don't even know you exist. I know you think you're protecting them by attacking me but it won't make a difference whatsoever since I'm just a random stranger online.

I just ask you stop falsely accusing me of things, as I think thats uncalled for and just plain rude.

I am not attacking you. If you want to go down that route, I could say you are attacking me. Neither of us are attacking each other.

I am not 'affected'. Are you?!!

They don't know you are on this mission to watch them crash and burn either! Just as well.

What on earth have I said that is rude?
You have accused me of having a meltdown. Of being affected by this conversation. And of attacking you.
If anyone is rude, it ain't me!

MamoruHisaishi · 13/07/2023 14:22

Roussette · 13/07/2023 14:18

I am not attacking you. If you want to go down that route, I could say you are attacking me. Neither of us are attacking each other.

I am not 'affected'. Are you?!!

They don't know you are on this mission to watch them crash and burn either! Just as well.

What on earth have I said that is rude?
You have accused me of having a meltdown. Of being affected by this conversation. And of attacking you.
If anyone is rude, it ain't me!

Wow there you go again, how am I on a mission to watch them crash and burn? I read headlines of them and find them funny and post them here. I go about my day, and then forget they exist. How does that make it a mission? Please explain.

why would you say I’m hoping for them to crash and burn? I say I find it funny seeing them crash and burn and you twist my words into something a lot more sinister. I see you criticise other royals and I dont attack you for it because I respect your opinion enough to leave it alone. But yet you can’t extend the same courtesy to me and others you’ve attacked here.

Roussette · 13/07/2023 14:24

There is no point in me answering. You think you don't want them to crash and burn. OK. That's fine.
I'll look out for some positivity.
Back to Wimbledon Tennis

MamoruHisaishi · 13/07/2023 14:25

Roussette · 13/07/2023 14:24

There is no point in me answering. You think you don't want them to crash and burn. OK. That's fine.
I'll look out for some positivity.
Back to Wimbledon Tennis

Thanks for acknowledging my truth. I’m glad you are. Best wishes to you.

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