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"They don't just report the news, they create it": on Meghan, Harry and the Press

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MrsMaxDeWinter · 21/06/2023 06:57

The much trumpeted story of the Dior deal is such a classic tabloid creation, isn't it.

I enjoyed this Grazia article that lays bare the utter nuttiness.

First the tabloids report the rumours as though they are true.

"Meghan to sign with Dior!"

No sources, just speculation based on Meghan and Harry wearing clothes by Dior a handful of times.

Then when both the Sussexes and Dior report that the rumours are not true, (Dior spokesperson said they are "nonplussed" about where the rumours came from) they spin it into "Meghan Rebuffed by Dior!"

This has also happened with Meghan's much rumoured run for the presidency: Robert Jobson actually wrote, with a straight face, in his book published in April 2023, that she was absolutely, certainly and most definitely going to run for president in 2024.

I mean any critical person would realise that the timelines don't make sense, she would have needed a fundraising Super PAC by the time the book was published, and in any event, Democrats don't normally challenge a sitting president ... but hey ho, Meghan is running for president in 2024 because a "Royal Correspondent" said so (and they are so knowledgeable about the American presidency) and a tabloid published it.

And it's the same with The Tig. She is going to launch it any day now. She wants to rival Gwyneth Paltrow! Story after story, based on nothing but speculation.

Rumour after rumour, speculation published as "news" to create media stories about a woman whose plans are not known to the tabloids because she and her husband made it crystal clear even when they were in the UK that they don't engage with the tabloid press.

And there are no "palace sources" who can speak with any kind of plausibility about the Sussexes, so the tabloids make it up as they go along, whipping up headline after headline, driving their readers into a frenzy over things they create ...

While ignoring the important news, like the damning questions by the judge in the Mirror Group case, who asked why the journalists, among them Piers Morgan, have not come to court to testify in the phone hacking trial ...

Oh no, that's not as important to report on as Meghan's fictitious Dior deal, completely implausible rumours of her presidential ambitions, and the speculated upon plans to best Gwyneth Paltrow!

https://graziadaily.co.uk/life/in-the-news/meghan-markle-smear-campaign-dior-spotify-faking-interviews/

There’s A New Meghan Markle Smear Campaign On The Rise

The latest bombshell news items about Meghan Markle have all the marks of a targeted hate campaign. Read more on Grazia.

https://graziadaily.co.uk/life/in-the-news/meghan-markle-smear-campaign-dior-spotify-faking-interviews

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Howsimplywonderful · 14/07/2023 10:22

Most other people have something in production so Netflix will have already paid a percentage of the costs for work already done so Netflix will continue with them

Archewell has nothing in production so much easier and cheaper to dump.

MrsMaxDeWinter · 14/07/2023 10:29

Mylovelygreendress · 14/07/2023 10:11

You may well have to eat your words !

With the strikes in Hollywood , how are they going to get any of their rumoured projects off the ground ?

What has the looming writers' strike got to do with the speculation that I just responded to, namely that Netflix will cancel Harry and Meghan because they failed to get an Emmy nomination?

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MrsMaxDeWinter · 14/07/2023 10:33

Howsimplywonderful · 14/07/2023 10:22

Most other people have something in production so Netflix will have already paid a percentage of the costs for work already done so Netflix will continue with them

Archewell has nothing in production so much easier and cheaper to dump.

So which is it?

Will they be dumped over not getting an Emmy nod, or because of the writers strike that will affect not just Archewell?

Perhaps you could just admit you know nothing at all about this, and you are, as always, doing some wishful speculation?

Especially as you state that "there is nothing in production", blatantly untrue because the Invictus series is slated for a month from now?

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Mylovelygreendress · 14/07/2023 10:42

Roussette · 14/07/2023 10:14

That, of course, applies to everyone. Not just H&M.

I agree however most other people are not in the news so much !

MrsMaxDeWinter · 14/07/2023 10:45

Mylovelygreendress · 14/07/2023 10:42

I agree however most other people are not in the news so much !

I think you mean, not many people are obsessed about on Mumsnet so much!

The strike will affect ALL shows, but to hear people on here talk, you would think the strike will target only Meghan and Harry!

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Mylovelygreendress · 14/07/2023 10:46

MrsMaxDeWinter · 14/07/2023 10:45

I think you mean, not many people are obsessed about on Mumsnet so much!

The strike will affect ALL shows, but to hear people on here talk, you would think the strike will target only Meghan and Harry!

Don’t tell me what I mean !

Not sure why you are being so aggressive!

Roussette · 14/07/2023 10:48

MrsMaxDeWinter · 14/07/2023 10:45

I think you mean, not many people are obsessed about on Mumsnet so much!

The strike will affect ALL shows, but to hear people on here talk, you would think the strike will target only Meghan and Harry!

Totally! M&H are a drop in the ocean compared to all the rest it will affect.

Except on these threads though 🤣

Iwantcakeeveryday · 14/07/2023 11:16

Mylovelygreendress · 14/07/2023 10:11

You may well have to eat your words !

With the strikes in Hollywood , how are they going to get any of their rumoured projects off the ground ?

You understand @MrsMaxDeWinter quoted Netflix right? So its their words and their partnership they say they have no intention of ending. Why would they? If they ended every partnership based on Emmy nods they'd be ending quite a few shows! Wishing and hoping people don't succeed is such a waste of your energy.

Iwantcakeeveryday · 14/07/2023 11:17

Mylovelygreendress · 14/07/2023 10:46

Don’t tell me what I mean !

Not sure why you are being so aggressive!

She's not being aggressive! geez

costacoughee · 14/07/2023 11:19

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Howsimplywonderful · 14/07/2023 11:19

For the posters worried by ALL the shows which may be affected by the strike (and not just H&Ms) perhaps if you should head over to the Telly addicts threads and discuss your fears there

Howsimplywonderful · 14/07/2023 11:25

@costacoughee

I had read somewhere about a September review so we will have to wait and see

Mylovelygreendress · 14/07/2023 11:35

Iwantcakeeveryday · 14/07/2023 11:17

She's not being aggressive! geez

In MY opinion she was . Clearly you think differently. That’s fine.

MrsMaxDeWinter · 14/07/2023 11:36

No you haven't read anything about a September review because there isn't any such thing.

First you say they will be cancelled because of not getting an Emmy.

Next you say because of the strike.

Now you talk about a September review.

You know none of this is true so why are you spreading disinformation?

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Howsimplywonderful · 14/07/2023 11:47

Let’s just wait and see Mrs DeWinter.

MrsMaxDeWinter · 14/07/2023 11:58

Howsimplywonderful · 14/07/2023 11:47

Let’s just wait and see Mrs DeWinter.

Not good enough, sorry.

You can't just state as fact things that are not true, and that you know to be untrue, then say "let's just wait and see".

You are in fact confirming what this thread topic is about: people in the media spreading rumours, and claiming them to be true.

I guess it is a good note to end on as it takes us back to the industry of rumour and speculation that passes as news about the Sussexes.

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unbelieveable22 · 14/07/2023 12:02

MrsMaxDeWinter · 14/07/2023 11:58

Not good enough, sorry.

You can't just state as fact things that are not true, and that you know to be untrue, then say "let's just wait and see".

You are in fact confirming what this thread topic is about: people in the media spreading rumours, and claiming them to be true.

I guess it is a good note to end on as it takes us back to the industry of rumour and speculation that passes as news about the Sussexes.

'people in the media spreading rumours ' and those rumours being repeated ad nauseum on here as fact. Look how that's turning out 😭

Samcro · 14/07/2023 19:03

Just seen some lovely footage of the wales family on the news

Nightlystroll · 14/07/2023 19:33

Samcro · 14/07/2023 19:03

Just seen some lovely footage of the wales family on the news

I feel for Kate and her wet feet. I've just been on a coach trip to some National Trust Gardens. It never stopped raining the entire day and from my hair to my feet I'm soaked, too. But she just powered on. Lol.
Bloomin British weather! 🌧 🌧 🌧

Nono22972 · 15/07/2023 04:05

I just saw an article saying that Harry reached out to William and might want to go back to the UK which I totally don't believe. I think the media are trying to keep this feud going or trying to create rumours about the Sussexes marriage when both are probably just living their lives and ignoring each other

That's actually interesting, one of my uncles recently passed away. We used to be close, he actually lived with us for a little while but he and my dad also had a huge falling out and barely talked to each other for more than 10 years. I've been seeing my dad grieve and express regret for never reaching out ever since and I saw an article about H&M a few days later and I thought that it really is a shame. Life is too short and tomorrow is promise to no man (my uncle was not even 45, working out everyday, eating healthy on most days). God forbid something terrible happens to William or Harry, it'd be a shame for them to still be "feuding".

I think that this feud has been so public that fans on both sides will never stop fighting but what I'm not seeing is some empathy and compassion. I do feel terrible for everyone involved. Anyone who has listened to the interviews or read the book would know that Harry feels a lot of anger towards his family but deep down, there's also a lot of love and I'm sure his family feels the same about him.

I can see both sides. Harry feeling that his family didn’t do enough to protect his wife from the media and his fear of history repeating itself after what happened to Diana.

On the other hand, you have the royal family who, first, didn't know Meghan was struggling mentally because they didn't say anything to members of the family (per Harry's own words in the Oprah interview). I understand that Harry feels his family didn’t do enough but this is a family who rarely even defend themselves. If anyone remembers how Kate was the villain in 2011-2018, I actually used to call out the Palace all the time for never defending her. Poor girl was getting body shamed during her pregnancies, accused of having an eating disorder, of faking her severe morning sickness to avoid working and the Palace said silent. William also was getting criticised a lot but they and no one in the family came out to defend them. Wrong but that's how they operate. Maybe it'll change in the future.

There's clearly hurt on both sides. Hopefully, time will heals all wounds and the family will reconcile in the future. As I said before, I do think there needs to be more compassion for all parties involved. We don't know them personally, we have a right to criticise their actions but they are humans at the end of the day and we don't know what people are going through mentally

Roussette · 15/07/2023 08:05

Great post @Nono22972

I just wish the Institution/RF would learn lessons. They never ever do. They just carry on as before. So expect to see media shaming of George and Louis's females marrying in, in 15 years or so.
The RF can't exist without the publicity, that's the problem. If we barely saw anything about them, the public would be saying 'what are we paying £86M for'. So we (clicking on the articles) are to blame too. A vicious circle.

Personally, I wish the whole lot of them would shut up, go away, keep quiet, slim down, reduce the sovereign grant, cut down the 1,200 employees to 200, change use of a lot of the 27 castles and estates... if we have to have a Monarchy, just change please!!

Iwantcakeeveryday · 15/07/2023 08:29

Agree too on this @Roussette there was and is so much talk of change but there never is any! Same old out of touch monarchy with no intention of slimming anything down, least of all the money they take off us.

Roussette · 15/07/2023 08:43

Iwantcakeeveryday · 15/07/2023 08:29

Agree too on this @Roussette there was and is so much talk of change but there never is any! Same old out of touch monarchy with no intention of slimming anything down, least of all the money they take off us.

I am so disappointed in Charles, he talked the talk, not walked the walk.

He has been saying for a decade or more about slimming down. Of course there has been natural slimming down with no H&M, but apart from that, not a sign of it! And Anne on record saying slimming down should not happen.
Personally I think slimming down means not just Royals doing engagements, but cutting back, reducing the massive monarchy machine!
Ain't happening, I now realise that. The Coronation proved everything will carry on as before. A bloated Institution in opulence.

Iwantcakeeveryday · 15/07/2023 09:01

@Roussette did Charles ever say it publicly? Or was it a narrative they created that suited them at the time? I was just talking to DH yesterday about the Queens cousins and wtf they were ever on the payroll? I hope that extended family will no longer be part of it at the very least. It's strange some of her cousins were put away in an asylum and some lived a life of staggering wealth and privilege.

CatherineofAragons · 15/07/2023 09:01

Nono22972 · 15/07/2023 04:05

I just saw an article saying that Harry reached out to William and might want to go back to the UK which I totally don't believe. I think the media are trying to keep this feud going or trying to create rumours about the Sussexes marriage when both are probably just living their lives and ignoring each other

That's actually interesting, one of my uncles recently passed away. We used to be close, he actually lived with us for a little while but he and my dad also had a huge falling out and barely talked to each other for more than 10 years. I've been seeing my dad grieve and express regret for never reaching out ever since and I saw an article about H&M a few days later and I thought that it really is a shame. Life is too short and tomorrow is promise to no man (my uncle was not even 45, working out everyday, eating healthy on most days). God forbid something terrible happens to William or Harry, it'd be a shame for them to still be "feuding".

I think that this feud has been so public that fans on both sides will never stop fighting but what I'm not seeing is some empathy and compassion. I do feel terrible for everyone involved. Anyone who has listened to the interviews or read the book would know that Harry feels a lot of anger towards his family but deep down, there's also a lot of love and I'm sure his family feels the same about him.

I can see both sides. Harry feeling that his family didn’t do enough to protect his wife from the media and his fear of history repeating itself after what happened to Diana.

On the other hand, you have the royal family who, first, didn't know Meghan was struggling mentally because they didn't say anything to members of the family (per Harry's own words in the Oprah interview). I understand that Harry feels his family didn’t do enough but this is a family who rarely even defend themselves. If anyone remembers how Kate was the villain in 2011-2018, I actually used to call out the Palace all the time for never defending her. Poor girl was getting body shamed during her pregnancies, accused of having an eating disorder, of faking her severe morning sickness to avoid working and the Palace said silent. William also was getting criticised a lot but they and no one in the family came out to defend them. Wrong but that's how they operate. Maybe it'll change in the future.

There's clearly hurt on both sides. Hopefully, time will heals all wounds and the family will reconcile in the future. As I said before, I do think there needs to be more compassion for all parties involved. We don't know them personally, we have a right to criticise their actions but they are humans at the end of the day and we don't know what people are going through mentally

Well said.

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