Meghan Markle - Duchess of Dior?

[MamoruHisaishi]

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12206159/amp/Is-Meghan-mega-bucks-Duchess-Dior.html

I think a problem with H & M is their lack of any kind of accountability at all. There is a lack of humility. They are not helped by their 'fans' who also cannot countenance any criticism whatsoever - whatever the allegation it is defended to the absolute hilt in an almost deranged way at times.

Don't the Mail contact the victims subjects of their pieces for comment? I thought that was obligatory practice these days. Why didn't they deny it then?

Shes been with WME for a few months so they must have some plans for her by now. Maybe they're waiting til after the Invictus Games documentary in August before they release details of her strategy. She sure could do with better advice than she's getting at the moment.

Oh, and no Leveson 2. I'm glad Hancock cancelled it. They're just more money spaffed up the wall on lawyers like David Sherborne.

I fear that Harry vowing to take on the tabloid media just means he's kicked a hornet's nest and made himself a very dangerous enemy.

As for Harry and Meghan keeping their DC out of the media spotlight and only allowing one photo every now and again to surface, IMO that makes them good parents and is one thing that they consistently get right and I wish we saw less of the Wales DC. I realise we've had the Platinum Jubilee, the Queen's funeral, the King's coronation and Trooping the Colour all in quick succession, but I hope now that George, Charlotte and Louis can be left to grow up in peace for a bit without them constantly having to ride in carriages and wave to crowds.

It achieved a huge amount. It was a significant factor in Leveson 1 and led to the NOTW closing.

Iwantcakeeveryday · Today 12:37
I am not talking about that and please stop quoting me, after your comment about Ngozi Fulani ( now deleted )
So that was your doing! Why? I said nothing bad about Ngozi Fulani. Just that she and Lady Hussy made peace with each other, then Ngozi changed her mind.

I have no interest in conversing with you.
Bad luck. It's a public forum and I can quote whoever. You are not compelled to respond

I have been consistent from when that article was posted that it was not a positive puff piece - there are several of us who called it day 1 that this article has done exactly what it set out to do - continue the narrative that H&M are failing. And it has worked.

They are failing though, Skullbabe. The fact that the Spotify executive felt that he could dismiss them so publicly, and so humiliatingly signals that they are easy prey now. Several high profile American comedians and presenters have mocked them. I honestly don't see how they have any credibility left at all.

@skullbabe if that is the case though, surely a spokesperson for the couple would have corrected the story on day one. A simple statement 'As flattered as we are at the recent speculation regarding Dior it is untrue'. They are very quick to release statements on other press articles.

Why let it drag on for days if it was a set up by the Mail?

this article has done exactly what it set out to do - continue the narrative that H&M are failing

I really can't see how "there's a rumour Megan might work with Dior, oh no actually both Meghan and Dior have denied it" is anything like as damaging as being called lazy and fucking grifters by someone who worked with them. There is no way that the Mail would dampen the effect of the Spotify story in this way. Meghan is the only one with anything to gain from it.

You're right that the article has done what it set out to do - but that was to reduce the heat of the grifters accusation, which is very damaging to Meghan when it comes to scoring more production deals.

Yes, indeed you have.

I think lots of people are just intrigued to see how H&M are going to make money going forward. A Dior deal would have been nice but a drop in the ocean for what income they need to fund their current lifestyle.

I do think MM would do well with a super influencer role - I would be interested in what she eats/her skincare/exercise regime etc and I am not the only one. But even if she was a super successful influencer - it won't provide a billionaire type income.

He himself doesn't have any credibility. He said what he did because yes they're an easy target and he knew it would deflect attention from Spotify's, and his own, failings and massive overspends as they sack hundreds of people. Nobody is really talking about that are they.

I think if it was designed to show MM failing, it would have come out well after the grifters kerfuffle had settled down. You wouldn't release it at the same time and water down the damage Spotify was doing.

As it was, it deflected attention, and now people are full on attacking the press for making stuff up. I think the Fail fell for a PR stunt and it's done exactly what it was suppose to do.

I don’t think they really have though? There are 3 ways we’ve seen royal children: in public, in heavily staged/posed for “private” family moments, and actual private family moments. For the Wales children we’ve only seen the first two - for example, there’s a photo of them baking which is so staged they must have seen the photographer there. For the Sussex children we’ve mainly seen the last, actual intimate/private family moments (just in the documentary there were images of them in the bath, having a bedtime story, on the beach, playing in the garden, etc)

The Wales children are a very involved part of the RF and direct line unlike H and M's. As you say it has been several major events in quick succession.

and when they sue, thats wrong too.

Sometimes when a famous person waits a little bit before denying a story, it's to give it time to overtake a more damaging one 😉

My first reaction when I read the Dior story was that (personally) I would rather be associated with Dior than with Spotify so kudos to them if it is true. Dior is very long standing, timeless, prestigious brand. Whereas Spotify is going through a difficult time and has had a few scandals of its own recently. It implied that Harry and Meghan were moving on to bigger and better things and Spotify was not a concern.

I find it very difficult to believe therefore that the rumour was made up by the Mail to further bring down Harry and Meghan. More like it was planted by their PR, the Mail ran with it (probably knowing it was untrue) and to claim 'balanced' reporting - knowing full well that it would backfire when either Dior denied it or the deal never materialised.

WME clearly sent the story to the Mail because that's the tabloid that everyone reads (even if it's in secret ) and it would be the quickest way to spread a rumour.
The price for the fucking grifters story will be rising by the day and the DM will obviously print that too.
Any Meghan story is clickbait gold and will continue to be that way.

Bill Simmons has no credibility? What as a journalist, podcaster and businessman? That's clearly not true. The guy delivers more content in a month than the Sussexes managed in 2½ years. Spotify overspent in contracts but that had nothing to do with Simmons. He's built up the sports arm as he was tasked with and he's now reaching into the European sports market.
The guy is widely listen to. When he wrote columns, he was one of the widest read sports commentators in the US. He built up two networks from nothing.
I'm sure he's upset that he's having to fire staff. However, hasn't expressed annoyance at the other celebrities they've let go. Just Harry. Could that be because the others produced content but were just too expensive to justify keeping on? Whilst Harry has done absolutely squat for 2½ years. Do you not think that's what makes him angry? That Spotify splurged money to publicise them but they never seized that initiative but just let it die out.
Criticise Simmons for calling them grifters if you like. But don't try and make out he's some insignificant guy with no credibility because his record within the industry shows that to be absolute tripe.

So this was some mastermind plan to put the Sussexes back in charge of the narrative? Sacked, grifters and failed Dior contract? Is that WME at their best, then?

The grifters comment won't go away for a long time. It might get knocked off the headlines for something else but you can bet the press will quote it regularly at each new business signing they make. Wanting national and international media to write they were getting a big sponsorship deal only for it not to materialise doesn't seem that great a PR move to me. And I just don't see criticism of the press. But any criticism there is, would inevitably include repeating the failed Dior deal and the grifters accusation. And maybe even doubt over Netflix. I just dont see how that's a PR win.

Standard tactics, Gracewithoutend; no matter who's said it and who they've said it about, if someone departs from the preferred narrative there'll be an attempt to discredit them

Easy enough to do when it's trash media, but not quite so simple when it's a leading exec - and after all, weren't all at Spotify said to be just wonderful when the deal was originally made?

They are failing though, Skullbabe. The fact that the Spotify executive felt that he could dismiss them so publicly, and so humiliatingly signals that they are easy prey now. Several high profile American comedians and presenters have mocked them. I honestly don't see how they have any credibility left at all.

Bill Simmons also criticised them in January - and he was more scathing then. It is hardly news that many he does not like them.

I’m not sure why you would think that these comments have shown that they are easy prey now - they have always been easy prey. This story shows exactly that. Every look and movement of these people is analysed to fit a narrative - Meghan walking and thinking “Meghan downtrodden over demise of Spotify deal”, Meghan smiling “Meghan snubs the Trooping”, Meghan frowning “Duchess in Dior disaster”. Easy.

Look at how people are imagining that they have spent the weekend in abject despair? Despondent at the ending of the deal - it’s like they didn’t even listen to what Bill Simmons said and just focused on the grifters bit. Just to remind people - Bill Simmons said he wished he was there at the negotiations of the Sussexes leaving Spotify. This means that WME were trying to renegotiate a deal with Spotify (probably to do with exclusivity) and these did not pan out. Also missing from the commentary is that Meghan continues to produce content - and so she will probably move to Audible or Apple both of which don’t have exclusivity issues which Spotify relied on to help ensure growth (and hasn’t really succeeded in this venture)

Every person in the public eye has been subject to mocking and comedy - this is not solely applicable to the Sussexes.

@skullbabe do have a source for the below:

This means that WME were trying to renegotiate a deal with Spotify (probably to do with exclusivity) and these did not pan out.

Or is that your interpretation of his comments? My interpretation of his comments is that he would have liked to be involved in the negotiated exit. They were terminating the contract and would have to agree exit terms. He would have wanted to pay them less to exit than they actually got (based on their lack of content). That is just my read of his comments.