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SaxSick · 19/06/2023 23:42

Roussette · 19/06/2023 21:43

Nonsense then!

and that is exactly the point I was making with my post.

BadgerB · 20/06/2023 06:25

SaxSick · Yesterday 20:47
Was just browsing - " And just last month Prince Harry made the bold decision to pair with the French designer for the King's Coronation instead of military garments" This is the kind of spin that is put on things

Harry didn't have to make a decision about a military uniform - there wasn't one on offer. Dior kindly gave him a morning suit, and it became very obvious that he no longer has a valet. The coat badly needed a skilled pressing.

ThePoshUns · 20/06/2023 06:37

Yes. He looked a right scruff at court as well

googlejourney · 20/06/2023 07:04

There was a rumour about them working with Dior when Harry arrived at the coronation controversially wearing the brand (instead of a British designer brand which is etiquette)

However, I think it was just a rumour at the time and this story was only published now so that when Meghan isn't signed as an ambassador it appears to be another lost deal / missed business opportunity / failure and therefore another newsworthy story to write about.

Dumpruntime · 20/06/2023 07:13

The fact this was either made up, which looks the most likely option, or grossly exaggerated, is very sad, as what it says is they literally had nothing positive to leak to stop the grifters story.

And the fact they didn’t stop it says it all. They are quick to deny other times.

and now it’s being leaked seemingly Meghan didn’t even bother doing some of the interviews for archetypes. That’s really bad, like really bad, and cements the grifter story.

so if Dior was made up or exaggerated to stop the grifters story it was a terrible idea, and just underlines they haven’t got anything, they had to make something up, and if Meghan was faking some podcasts, and there were only 12, so it’s hardly onerous. Then I think this is the end for them.

SaxSick · 20/06/2023 07:42

BadgerB · 20/06/2023 06:25

SaxSick · Yesterday 20:47
Was just browsing - " And just last month Prince Harry made the bold decision to pair with the French designer for the King's Coronation instead of military garments" This is the kind of spin that is put on things

Harry didn't have to make a decision about a military uniform - there wasn't one on offer. Dior kindly gave him a morning suit, and it became very obvious that he no longer has a valet. The coat badly needed a skilled pressing.

I do understand this and that is why I referred to "spin".

SaxSick · 20/06/2023 07:45

The Dior story seems to have slipped this morning in favour of M "faking" interviews on the podcasts.

Puzzledandpissedoff · 20/06/2023 08:04

The Telegraph article says the Sussexes' spokesman also denied the tie-up, tbf

So where did the ridiculous story come from in the first place - I thought it was supposed to be their own PR team?

And it would hardly be fair to sneer at Meghan over something someone else made up if that's the case

Roussette · 20/06/2023 08:10

ThePoshUns · 20/06/2023 06:37

Yes. He looked a right scruff at court as well

Really?

I thought quite the opposite. In all the images of him arriving at court, to me he didn't look 'a right scruff'.
I'm just surprised at that observation.

OldCargoVessel · 20/06/2023 08:12

I did wonder about that Dior rumour. As others have said, I would be surprised if Dior went for someone so divisive in the press. I can't see them wanting to appear to 'take sides' or at least be accused of it by the media.

Also, no offence, but I don't think either of them are cool enough? I can't see any Royal being considered cool enough.

I think Dior are thrilled to see either H or M wear Dior at big events but I think that would be as far as it goes. They probably agree to lend them clothes.

I can't see Meghan's camp starting the rumour - as there is the obvious sneering when it turns out not to be true. Dior obviously felt the need to correct it which is embarrassing.

At this point their only strategy can really be to lay low for a while and let the dust settle.

GlorianaCervixia · 20/06/2023 08:39

The Dior suit was well made but he clearly hadn’t pressed it before putting it on. He looked sloppy, as he always does. At least his shoes weren’t dirty and didn’t appear to have holes in them this time.

The military uniform he wore at the vigil for the Queen didn’t fit him properly either. It was too small, the buttons were visibly straining and it was pulling him in so tight at the waist he looked like he was wearing a girdle.

LadyMuckingabout · 20/06/2023 08:40

I am confused over the whole story. Where did it come from? I just don’t get it. And the weird new publicity guy - he sounds like a wide-boy shark. I honestly think I could do a better job and I’ve never publicised anyone of anything in my whole life.

Dumpruntime · 20/06/2023 08:57

At this point their only strategy can really be to lay low for a while and let the dust settle

which it seems is their only feasible strategy every single time they do something.

plus their spokesperson only seemed to deny once Dior did. What a shit show. I don’t know why we constantly expect better behaviour from them. I really don’t.

AutumnCrow · 20/06/2023 08:58

LadyMuckingabout · 20/06/2023 08:40

I am confused over the whole story. Where did it come from? I just don’t get it. And the weird new publicity guy - he sounds like a wide-boy shark. I honestly think I could do a better job and I’ve never publicised anyone of anything in my whole life.

Intriguing, isn’t it? The Mail dredged up a whole heap of sources, one of which came from Meghan’s talent agency WME.

I said at the weekend that the Mail published the Dior story knowing it’s not true so that they can run the ‘rejected by Dior’ spread. ‘Duchess’s Dior Disappointment- where does miserable Meghan go from here?’ <sad face photo>

They’re starting to focus now on the ‘fake interviews’ stuff.

’A source said that the Duchess is devastated…’ blah blah will be coming soon. So predictable. And the problem H&M have is that if they issue statements to attempt to counter the narrative, a lot of people won’t believe them any more. They have credibility issues after Oprah, Spare and Netflix, and the Mail knows it and takes advantage of it.

ChardonnaysBeastlyCat · 20/06/2023 08:58

If their team leaked the Dior story then it was a spectacular gaffe.

It was never going to get them the endorsement.

smilesy · 20/06/2023 09:02

GlorianaCervixia · 20/06/2023 08:39

The Dior suit was well made but he clearly hadn’t pressed it before putting it on. He looked sloppy, as he always does. At least his shoes weren’t dirty and didn’t appear to have holes in them this time.

The military uniform he wore at the vigil for the Queen didn’t fit him properly either. It was too small, the buttons were visibly straining and it was pulling him in so tight at the waist he looked like he was wearing a girdle.

To be fair on the uniform being ill fitting, it was only decided at the last minute that he would actually be wearing one, so it’s unlikely there would have been time for proper fitting. I would imagine Kashket were a bit busy 🤷‍♀️

jeffgoldblum · 20/06/2023 09:03

Over inflated egos?

Nicecow · 20/06/2023 09:06

AutumnCrow · 20/06/2023 08:58

Intriguing, isn’t it? The Mail dredged up a whole heap of sources, one of which came from Meghan’s talent agency WME.

I said at the weekend that the Mail published the Dior story knowing it’s not true so that they can run the ‘rejected by Dior’ spread. ‘Duchess’s Dior Disappointment- where does miserable Meghan go from here?’ <sad face photo>

They’re starting to focus now on the ‘fake interviews’ stuff.

’A source said that the Duchess is devastated…’ blah blah will be coming soon. So predictable. And the problem H&M have is that if they issue statements to attempt to counter the narrative, a lot of people won’t believe them any more. They have credibility issues after Oprah, Spare and Netflix, and the Mail knows it and takes advantage of it.

I suspect you're right. I feel sorry for them thinking they could take on the press, they will never escape the bad press and the influence they have over people's opinions. You just need to look at this thread to realise that.

AutumnCrow · 20/06/2023 09:07

smilesy · 20/06/2023 09:02

To be fair on the uniform being ill fitting, it was only decided at the last minute that he would actually be wearing one, so it’s unlikely there would have been time for proper fitting. I would imagine Kashket were a bit busy 🤷‍♀️

I didn’t notice him especially. My eyes were probably riveted on Anne if they were in the same space, in her cavalry boots and helmet. Abiding memory.

OldCargoVessel · 20/06/2023 09:10

@ChardonnaysBeastlyCat that was exactly my thoughts

I am no PR or marketing specialist but it would seem to me, even if there were 'negotiations' leaking anything before it is a done deal is more likely to jeopardise it. No one likes their hand being forced or potential partners being so indiscreet.

Leaking a rumour that was false also seems batshit - as when it doesn't come off you look like a fool.

The only thing I can think of is that they were trying to infer an endorsement deal because Dior have dressed the couple on occasion and hoped that Dior would stay quiet (at best) - and that the association would help generate better press.

Their marketing strategy has been appalling from the moment they left the RF. Blunder after blunder - yet paying the best in the business. It is mind boggling.

Iwantcakeeveryday · 20/06/2023 09:14

LadyMuckingabout · 20/06/2023 08:40

I am confused over the whole story. Where did it come from? I just don’t get it. And the weird new publicity guy - he sounds like a wide-boy shark. I honestly think I could do a better job and I’ve never publicised anyone of anything in my whole life.

Really? I think it's fairly obvious.

The press make up crap all the time, made this up, then when it was denied everyone can twist it into, ha ha they don't want her, she tried it and now she's a fool.

I wish I could say this nonsense is surprising but it isn't. The fact anyone is suggesting she would do this to herself is bizarre. But literally we're at the stage where people are laughing and mocking her about any old thing, true or not. I wonder what the end game is for everyone participating?

Iwantcakeeveryday · 20/06/2023 09:15

ChardonnaysBeastlyCat · 20/06/2023 08:58

If their team leaked the Dior story then it was a spectacular gaffe.

It was never going to get them the endorsement.

of course they didn't;t do that, I cannot actually understand how anyone thinks they would. this story is truly hitting new heights of insanity.

OldCargoVessel · 20/06/2023 09:15

They have antagonised the very worst part of the press - with constant law suits. They have antagonised the very worst of the paparazzi with the car chase story. Given the sociopathic nature of these organisations they are going to seek their revenge.

They would have been so much better just ignoring, ignoring, ignoring - like most other A listers do. Then the sociopathic press gets bored and moves on to the next drama.

Kate Moss does this really well - she has had some huge scandals but we barely remember them (and they have not impacted her overall image/public perception) as she just 'grey rocked' the press.

Iwantcakeeveryday · 20/06/2023 09:17

Yes, of course, we should all ignore illegality and injustice and hope it all goes away or that someone else has to deal with it.

AutumnCrow · 20/06/2023 09:17

Nicecow · 20/06/2023 09:06

I suspect you're right. I feel sorry for them thinking they could take on the press, they will never escape the bad press and the influence they have over people's opinions. You just need to look at this thread to realise that.

I also suspect that there are some within the media who genuinely dislike the way Harry has disrespected not the monarchy per se but the monarchs.

The way Harry has personalised his disrespect (while ‘supporting the monarchy’) in the way he treated HMQ, his father, and his brother - two monarchs and the future monarch - and selected and amplified particular personal stories to wind up his wife, has been notable.

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