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The royal family

Harry - what next?

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TrashyPanda · 16/06/2023 12:51

Continuation thread for all things Harry, Meghan and all things Archewell.

welcome back everyone!

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Maireas · 07/07/2023 17:16

I know - I've no idea why he makes all these claims. I wonder if he'll regret it in years to come.

Iwantcakeeveryday · 07/07/2023 17:19

he didn't say he didn't love her. But they have to marry someone that will go along with what the institution and the press burden them with. So it can't just be about falling in love. Why do you think William waited so long to marry her? They have to be moulded into an appropriate partner for the institution first. People keep saying Harry didn't prepare Meghan enough, she didn't know what it was really like etc etc so clearly that's an acknowledgement that they can;t just fall in love and get married like other people.

Howsimplywonderful · 07/07/2023 17:20

@Wheresthebeach

I agree. It was very petulant of Harry to make those comments and equally poor of the poster to repeat them.

Maireas · 07/07/2023 17:23

That's certainly a strength of William. He understood the demands of the situation and ensured that for him and Kate it was a more enduring relationship than a passing fancy. She also had plenty of time to get to know if the role was actually for her in the long term. Very wise.

Iwantcakeeveryday · 07/07/2023 17:26

Howsimplywonderful · 07/07/2023 17:20

@Wheresthebeach

I agree. It was very petulant of Harry to make those comments and equally poor of the poster to repeat them.

who me? Oh I won't be talked down to about what I post by you thanks very much. Its pretty clear from everyone here saying Meghan wasn't;t the right fit that you all expect them to choose someone appropriate for the institution. SO don;t act surprised that people acknowledge that marrying as a senior royal isn't just about, or at all about in some cases, love. You all acknowledge it by your posts.

Iwantcakeeveryday · 07/07/2023 17:27

Maireas · 07/07/2023 17:23

That's certainly a strength of William. He understood the demands of the situation and ensured that for him and Kate it was a more enduring relationship than a passing fancy. She also had plenty of time to get to know if the role was actually for her in the long term. Very wise.

Passing fancy? Well some people have quite enduring relationships marrying after only a year or two. I moved in withy now husband after 3 weeks of dating! 30+ years married now.

Maireas · 07/07/2023 17:30

Yes, but you're not marrying into the royal family. I got together with my husband quickly - actually within a couple of months - we're happy 30 odd years on! That's really not what I mean. I meant that there was extra pressure on W and K and they were wise not to rush.

Roussette · 07/07/2023 17:34

Iwantcakeeveryday · 07/07/2023 17:27

Passing fancy? Well some people have quite enduring relationships marrying after only a year or two. I moved in withy now husband after 3 weeks of dating! 30+ years married now.

I was just about to post that it is unfair to criticise H&M for a shorter courtship because if you want children and you aren't like K&W meeting in your early 20s you just can't spend 10 plus years getting to know each other.

Ditto me... met, married, had children in a short-ish time because we were older... together close to 40 years now!

Passing fancy... piffle 😂

Maireas · 07/07/2023 17:36

"passing fancy" isn't piffle - I am not talking about H and M. I am saying that W had to be sure that he and K weren't a passing fancy.

Roussette · 07/07/2023 17:38

Maireas · 07/07/2023 17:36

"passing fancy" isn't piffle - I am not talking about H and M. I am saying that W had to be sure that he and K weren't a passing fancy.

I'm talking about the age they met. W&K split up for a while so probably had to reset things. Yes, they did it right. But that doesn't mean to say H&M didn't

Maireas · 07/07/2023 17:39

Roussette · 07/07/2023 17:38

I'm talking about the age they met. W&K split up for a while so probably had to reset things. Yes, they did it right. But that doesn't mean to say H&M didn't

Goodness me. I'm not talking about H and M. I have already said so. I am talking about W and K being sensible to wait.
I have really made that point clear.

Roussette · 07/07/2023 17:42

Maireas · 07/07/2023 17:39

Goodness me. I'm not talking about H and M. I have already said so. I am talking about W and K being sensible to wait.
I have really made that point clear.

And I have agreed with you.

Maireas · 07/07/2023 17:44

Excellent 👌 we're in agreement 😃!
I hope we're also in agreement that I wasn't talking about H and M.....

Roussette · 07/07/2023 18:03

Maireas · 07/07/2023 17:44

Excellent 👌 we're in agreement 😃!
I hope we're also in agreement that I wasn't talking about H and M.....

Good. Passing fancy sounded like it but I wrongly assumed 👍

SaxSick · 07/07/2023 18:05

Wheresthebeach · 07/07/2023 17:13

I think it was outrageous for Harry to suggest that the others didn’t marry for love. He was once close to Kate and to imply that his brother doesn’t love her is an awful thing to say. So narcissistic- look at me I’m the only one who has married for love.

Yeah bit of a prat really.

SaxSick · 07/07/2023 18:06

Iwantcakeeveryday · 07/07/2023 17:19

he didn't say he didn't love her. But they have to marry someone that will go along with what the institution and the press burden them with. So it can't just be about falling in love. Why do you think William waited so long to marry her? They have to be moulded into an appropriate partner for the institution first. People keep saying Harry didn't prepare Meghan enough, she didn't know what it was really like etc etc so clearly that's an acknowledgement that they can;t just fall in love and get married like other people.

That's quite a supposition, anyway...who knows eh?

SidekickSylvia · 07/07/2023 19:45

Of all the things said by the press about Kate, to hear her husband's brother say that William hadn't married for love must have been the most hurtful. What a foolish man Harry is.

WinnieTheW0rm · 07/07/2023 20:10

SidekickSylvia · 07/07/2023 19:45

Of all the things said by the press about Kate, to hear her husband's brother say that William hadn't married for love must have been the most hurtful. What a foolish man Harry is.

Especially as one interpretation is that if you (the prince) really love someone, you make absolutely sure they understand what they are getting in to, and look as if they'll fit, because the last thing you would want is to put someone into circumstances that would make them unhappy.

Harry said, at the time of the W&C engagement how happy he was to have gained a sister, and back then the three of them looked very much at ease with each other when on joint engagements or at things like sports events together.

Milcar · 07/07/2023 22:29

Yes, another interpretation was that William loved Catherine enough to give her time to understand what marrying him would entail. And Harry didn't give Meghan that time.

Alternatively, they each love their spouse, and that's why they got married.

tigger2022 · 08/07/2023 09:05

I don’t think it has anything to do with amount of love tbh… I think Harry deliberately married Meghan early because from his experiences with Chelsy and Cressida he’s paranoid about women leaving once they find out what royal life entails. All throughout interviews and the doc he’s repeating how paranoid he was she was going to leave him. Not sure that’s right tbh.

costacoughee · 08/07/2023 09:22

tigger2022 · 08/07/2023 09:05

I don’t think it has anything to do with amount of love tbh… I think Harry deliberately married Meghan early because from his experiences with Chelsy and Cressida he’s paranoid about women leaving once they find out what royal life entails. All throughout interviews and the doc he’s repeating how paranoid he was she was going to leave him. Not sure that’s right tbh.

So true. He knew she might walk if she realised what the life entailed. My take however is that she would have married him regardless and forged a path to fame as he was the latest man to offer her a stepping stone to fulfilling her ambition.

She was tipping off journalists from early on, wearing personalised jewellery to indicate the relationship and forced him to acknowledge the relationship asap.

Both of them got what they wanted but it seems to me it's not the fairytale they both imagined

ThePoshUns · 08/07/2023 09:25

I think you are right @tigger2022
They both had objectives that suited them to have the whirlwind romance

Howsimplywonderful · 08/07/2023 09:38

@costacoughee

I don’t think she would have walked though. She was in a show that was winding down. She was out of Hollywood circles and had no way back in.

if they had opted out of being working royals and moved to Hollywood straight after a smaller wedding, they’d probably now be better off. Definitely happier.

Roussette · 08/07/2023 09:39

She was tipping off journalists from early on, wearing personalised jewellery to indicate the relationship and forced him to acknowledge the relationship asap.

Good grief, I've heard it all now!

Where on earth does this twaddle come from? Really?

I need to establish. Are you saying she snared Harry and he really wasn't that keen but she wore some jewellery which forced Harry to acknowledge the relationship and then marry her?!

This is so funny!

Can these threads get any more ridiculous!!!

SaxSick · 08/07/2023 09:44

You can see how H was probably head over heels in love with M when he met her. (Not saying that he isn't now) Here was someone who asked how he was and was American. She spoke differently and looked at life in a different way. She was different from his previous younger GFs - she was an experienced woman. He could identify with a woman who had had issues of her own growing up. She was attractive and she hung on his every word in public interviews. It was obvious in that first interview.

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