Harry - what next?

[TrashyPanda]

Continuation thread for all things Harry, Meghan and all things Archewell.

welcome back everyone!

I've never read Riders, this is making me think I should.

Not interested in an H&M love story. If it was genuine and detailed their mindsets at the time instead of whimery I'd give it some thought but they both seem a bit deluded and it wouldn't be insightful. Just glossy wittering. Seals singing. And the stars aligned! Then we suffered the indignity of being offered a small cottage in Central London and discovered no-one has universal adoration.

I think you've nailed it. Less time for navel gazing and brooding, and instead having a sense of purpose and a routine

Some people have taken an interest in the gossip mongering so far but it doesn’t earn them any respect. That’s what they seem oblivious to. I’ve just been watching a programme about the Duke of Windsor. He was described as having no inner life, no self awareness, and no concept of the the magnitude of what it meant to conspire with the Nazis against his own family and country. Sound familiar?

OMG Riders is one of the best books ever! I read it as a teenager and then I read it again and again. Sooo good!

There's been a rumour floating around Tiktok for several days that Harry collapsed and was hospitalised due to an argument with Meghan. Of course just a rumour but uncanny timing with the Spotify rejection, Dior non-story and scathing WSJ article.

Oh dear. If that’s true it’s not good.

I can see the comparisons. Leaving in a righteous rage, then gradually realising that your assumptions about leaving, and your own importance to the institution, are misguided. That the initial upheaval settles, leaving you as irrelevant, rather than triggering a fundemental change in the institution.

We have literally just watched this and were saying the same thing. Substitute Harry for the Duke of Windsor. Obviously the Nazi aspect does not apply but the reference to him seeking power or validation by others drove him to some less than satisfactory people and actions. He lived a life expecting to be shown preferential treatment and was paid an annual income by the RF. In all the clips you see of him he looks miserable and unhappy. There is indeed the description of the Duke of W as being the fairy tale child who was given everything but had no soul. Even then the Gov tried to shelter him from his betrayals but the proof is there in the Portuguese Archives. Very interesting documentary.

I shall take your word for it and report back 🤣

Loved Jilly's short stories as a teen but never read anything else of hers! If I start fondling horses and trying to bite jockeys in a perceived sexy way this is entirely your fault.

Wasn't Jilly Cooper one of the suspects in Harry's sex behind the pub story?

Really?

A man who aligned himself with Hitler, who Hitler planned to instal as King to make a fascist Britain... is like Harry?

I've heard it all now.

What next

Woman behind (quite literally) the story has done press interviews. Not Jilly.

I don't know why anyone is worried about Harry or Meghan, they're both privileged, Harry by birth and Meghan by marriage. Neither of them are hard done by.

The only interest in them is that they keep complaining and people wonder how they are going to fund their lifestyle with such a shallow means of income.

I don't think it crossed either of their minds that they would loose their Internationally Protected Status, or if they were warned that it could happen they thought someone was bluffing, trying to tie them to be working Royals.

They honestly thought his birth status would mean lifetime security all over the planet, but his cousins don't have 24hr security either.

I don't know why anyone is worried about Harry or Meghan, they're both privileged, Harry by birth and Meghan by marriage. Neither of them are hard done by.

Because money isn't everything. Robin Williams was a wealthy privileged man. Plenty of other wealthy privileged people have ended up with drugs or alcohol issues leading to premature deaths.

Forget money Harry in particular is in a very vulnerable position, he's alienated from his family and old friends, his immigration visa to the US could be removed especially if they split,
The odds of him getting custody of the children is low, he's publicly admitted using drugs, if the US kicked him out how would he see his children?

Meghan is in her birth country, and she has her mum on her side.

She'd have been 60! How desperate or drunk was Harry? 😂

Hey less of the ageism 😂

The Netflix show was about their love story. So fortuitous that Meghan recorded herself phoning a friend as Harry proposed.

It's known that Netflix produces high-quality content yet accessible to all, so I would not look down on Meghan for inspiring us common folk with her love story

Harry's immigrant status will never be revoked.

Money isn't everything but it means a great deal to them...

I have sympathy for Robin Williams with his mental health but not for his shagging around on his wife.

The whole thing seems to be "oh if they're part of the RF or have been in a film then they're admirable and can be excused".

No. It's superficial adornment.

He lived a life expecting to be shown preferential treatment and was paid an annual income by the RF. In all the clips you see of him he looks miserable and unhappy.

What's sad, not referencing Harry or Meghan at all, is that Wallis was miserable too and had quite a few affairs. She wanted to leave him but after how he'd given everything up for her, she couldn't. She'd tried to persuade him not to give up the crown for her which leads you to believe that maybe she realised she didnt want to spend her life with him. But he went ahead anyway, and she was trapped.

It's quite sad to know that my mum was brought up to think it was the romance of the century. But, on the other hand, Wallis did have the most amazing jewellery selection. So it wasn't all bad. 😀

AND Madonna directed her film about her, so there's a silver lining right there

I'm 63. I'm looking at myself in a mirror. And Harry....well, he just wouldnt. 🤣

Even my husband said he'd rather have a pizza! 🤷‍♀️

I must admit when I read the virginity excerpt in the book I had some sympathy with Harry. It was a small throwaway passage of a few sentences, gave nothing away about the girl and, written by anyone else, would have passed unnoticed. The way it was reported blew it out of all proportion and the speculation it unleashed about who the girl was was unreal. He was lambasted for throwing an innocent party into the limelight but he really didn’t, it was all the media’s doing.

Well, @Ohpleeeease , I'm going to say that there's no such thing as a "small, throwaway passage" in a prince's autobiography, especially pertaining to his first sexual experience. It's going to be read and discussed, and the identity of the woman speculated on. He really didn't need to include it, or could have been more opaque.

He didn’t need to write about it at all. It was sordid.