The trials and tribulations of Harry - thread 2

[TrashyPanda]

Continuation of

https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/the_royal_family/4812092-ph-lost-bid-to-challenge-for-right-to-pay-home-office-for-his-security?page=10&reply=126688485

I think the Queen probably kept Charles a bit grounded but I don’t get the impression Harry has had the same

So why did his legal team go to all the trouble of finding those articles if they're not relevant?

I think it’s the difference between being a claimant and defendant. Harry’s lawyers were looking to put a case together. He says “there are loads of articles about me that must have come from phone hacking” So he and they go through the hundreds - thousands - of stories published by the Mirror over the years and Harry identifies the ones that, in his words, seem suspicious. His team wouldn’t necessarily spend the time and money doing a 360 degree review of each and every one to see if they can be undermined at the time they pick them. Because there’s a long way to go, and a lot of water to go under the bridge before you get to a trial, if you ever do.

The defendant however gets served with a claim and they want to defend it. They are very motivated to try and find a way to undermine each and every allegation, even if that means spending huge amounts of money chasing down what was being written and said elsewhere around each individual story. And they have an advantage - access to the journalists who wrote them in the first place who might have more insight about what went on.

This would all have come out at an earlier stage, of course, and normally that’s the stage where the claimant would look to settle their claim. Harry, it seems, was not interested in doing that, hence you have to box on and take your chances at trial…

Yup Prince Philip wasn’t that easy on Charles and he was bullied a lot at school and he’s experienced true humiliation from the press - when there was even less oversight and accountability. And he’s still shamed publicly 🥚

i don’t think Harry has had the same wake up calls tbh

Indeed Serenster , he's got main character syndrome!
Only his feelings or thought are worthwhile or real , every other person is a support act or not important or not relevant.
It's really unpleasant to see .

Absolutely agree!

@Serenster

ah when you explain it like that, I can understand what’s happened. I’ve been waiting for the smoking gun moment, when it will become obvious why he’s doing this now and why so publicly. But actually yes, maybe he just wanted to thrash it out instead of settling privately.

@Serenster , didn't he say he bumped into his now barrister in France 2018?
Maybe the barrister was banking on Harry's popularity 2018 style ?
Who knew this was all cobblers !

That was quite an extraordinary revelation. “How lovely to meet you, your Royal Highness! Tell me…have you ever had a private conversation at work disclosed that wasn’t your fault…??” 🤣🤣

😂😭

@Serenster , I know! 🤣
Seems like a high class version of those telephone calls ..... have you ever been in an accident? ( or car chase!) .

It is worth pointing out that litigation is affected by economic downturn, the same as any industry. KCs get affected the most because there are less people willing to pay £700 plus per hour. David must have died and gone to heaven when he applied the patter on a wealthy prince and it worked!

Absolutely. Getting this case is a biggie

Very good point @Stalkedbyzombies !
However some people think that because he's supporting Harry and taking on the evil media , he's obviously noble !
I'm sure he was also thinking of his own payday!

I do believe the bit about meeting on holiday. I could not imagine them socializing in any other situation. Occasionally, I have found myself in the most unlikely company on holiday.

I think I’ve been involved in 1 legal case in my entire life and luckily the other person dropped it after 2 weeks but it was the 2 worst weeks of my life… so you have to question what’s going through the head of someone who actively seeks them out, half a dozen, all at the same time

Unless you are loaded, litigation is a fool's errand for most people. I think it has become necessary due to dwindling communication skills. Either the defendant or claimant (or both) are often poor communicators or non-communicators so mediation doesn't work and they get sucked into this costly process of dispute resolution where you may well never see the ginormous costs awarded in your favour or any practical changes at all, just a long order to confirm you were right.

I really enjoyed the Channel 4 Wagatha Christie trial drama that was on at Christmas. I wonder if there's any chance that we will see this trial dramatised? Iirc Martin Sheen played David Sherborne

Surely Eddie Redmayne?!

Do you mean Michael Sheen?

Yes I meant Michael !!

. KCs get affected the most because there are less people willing to pay £700 plus per hour. David must have died and gone to heaven when he applied the patter on a wealthy prince and it worked!

He's not a KC! It's a famous thing about him.
https://www.5rb.com/barristers/

Words fail me 🤣🤣🤣

Martin Sheen! 🤣

Harry said he met David Sherborne in the South of France in 2018. That was the trip when Elton John paid for their private jet and they stayed in his villa. David Sherborne has also represented Elton John. I guess that’s how they met…

I just think litigation is not therapy . & arrogance is not a good look. I am starting to feel sorry for Harry but not as much as I suspect he thinks I should. Did Meghan get a partial win against the Mail ? My suspicion ( & I do not know ) is that Harry was kept out of trouble by the RF. I really think he should butt out and get some proper therapy.

He’s had a few professional misconduct issues in his time, @WigsNGowns (starting a relationship with one of Lord Leveson’s team of barristers while he himself was acting for parties appearing in the public inquiry, for example…) so that might be why he’s not been appointed as a KC.