Meghan Markle fans criticize Catherine

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https://www.newsweek.com/meghan-markle-fans-children-kate-middleton-side-eye-chelsea-flower-show-1802531

It's disappointing to read that the actress who plays one of my favourite characters Shirley Bennet on the tv show Community is responsible for some of this hate against Catherine.

I don’t think it’s hard to accept actually, the longer I live the more I realise there are a lot of weirdos in the world… the internet exposes them rather than them sitting in their own shed collecting newspaper cuttings. It doesn’t mean the object of their obsession is responsible for the things they do though.
I hope both Kate and Meghan can avoid/ignore it. I’d imagine having die-hard deranged fans is actually quite scary alongside the horrible bullying from the other side. I think the press is to blame for a lot of it, they write inflammatory pieces then open up comments at the bottom.

Chelsea flower show is in london so kids reflect local London primary schools.
when she goes to wales or Cornwall or Birmingham the kids she meets will be those local kids.
it’s a nice thing.

How is taking photos of Catherine with children, including people or colour, a publicity stunt or racist? Catherine is performing as a royal, just like Diana did, just like harry did, just like Meghan did when they were royals. Were they all publicity stunts as well? Was Diana doing an act of tokenism when she was photographed with people of colour to show she wasn't racist?

And no, that link clearly showed that this April person is a Sussex fan because she uses the same talking points and line of defense that the other Sussex fans do. In fact, if that article is wrong, I'll wait for it to be pulled down but it won't because it's obvious the people who are attacking Catherine are mostly Sussex fans.

Kensington Palace arrange for Kate to be surrounded by dark brown children and some with disabilities, while she wears a pink princess dress and grins maniacally. That’s got nothing to do with the Duchess of Sussex. That’s got to do with her out of touch PR team never getting it right. Pro Tip: Kate should only do sporty events because she’s not authentic enough for anything else.

^^ agreed black people that admire the royal family make me uneasy. They literally colonised your ancestors.

Honestly insta fans of both kate and Meghan are unhinged with too much time of their hands.

I know this because I click on this shit (apparently I also have to much time on my hands) and then my algorithm fills up with it.

Both are as weird and as bad as each other. And the people that photoshop pics of Diana into photos with Meghan and kate are the oddest of the lot.

I tend to agree that there are some anti Sussex people that I would classify as bullying and vicious and even racist towards Meghan. And these people have been called out in the media, as they should be. I just don't see why the same level of bullying towards Catherine from some of the pro Sussex fans should be ignored, especially when they are public figures themselves. You can criticize the institution without attacking the person for it, especially when Catherine has never said anything negative towards Meghan.

Were they all publicity stunts as well?

Of course they bloody were! Do people follow you around taking your photo because everyone cares so much about what you are doing? No they don't. It is all - every single bit of it - about publicity. And "messaging". It is about trying to make out that the soap opera lives of these out of touch people in an anochronistic institution are somehow relevant to us and modern life. If you are filled with such hatred for Meghan and Harry, do you want to know how to make them "disappear from view"? Stop indulging in the circus. Don't feed the machine. If nobody cares about the stories and doesn't read them, then the media will move on to their next victims. It's all about clicks, and nothing to do with facts or value. Then you and Kate can get on with your mutual fan club without interruption.

If you wanna criticize the monarchy, go right ahead, this is different to whatever valid criticisms republicans may have against the monarchy. This is a direct attack on Catherine herself, just because some of her photos look a bit strange. That's what I would call bullying. My issue here is, there are numerous articles about Meghan and Harry being attacked on social media, and yet the same can be said of some of the Sussex fans towards the Wales, especially Catherine. Using photos of kids with disability when they can't help how they look and saying that shows the kids don't like Catherine is imo despicable.

Is this the best Meghan and Harry fans can come up with? 🤣🤣🤣

It's so pathetic.

On a more serious note, if I was one of those kids parents I wouldn't like my photos of my kid being ridiculed and being used to ridicule someone else plastered all over social media.

No it isn't different. She's there as a member of the royal family. Not as a private individual. Its the only reason anyone is taking pictures of her, and she's the one agreeing to be surrounded by kids for her own publicity. They are all cut from the same cloth - it's all about media attention. I'm not sure how you leapt to the conclusion as to which kids have disabilities or that how they look had anything to do with their disability rather than being bored out of their heads by these adults. Aren't doing the same thing? Just assuming what you want to infer from the photos?

Anyway, it was a boring Sunday morning so a little diversion that wasn't interminable Schofield was entertaining, but I must get on with having a life.

"And you noticeably are ignoring the point that surrounding yourself with black people for publicity shots is the worst form of tokenism - "look I can't be racist, I've met a black kid"."

Surrounding yourself with children from local Primary Schools in Central London who are near the event you've helped arrange a garden for is tokenism now?

This need to insert race into every criticism and complaint against a woman and family you don't actually know seems bizarre.

It's a perfectly valid question about the deeper issues around social media and it's affects on people's lives and perceptions. Meghan couldn't cope with all the unhinged hate/racism /misogyny from social media, and neither should she.

Equally neither should Catherine, and the question is why there is an orchestrated campaign to denigrate two women.

It is ridiculous to deny there are obsessed fans of Meghan and Harry,
Just as there are obsessed haters of Meghan and Harry. It's also ridiculous to deny social media can be manipulated to paint any picture they want.

As Chelsea is in London and many primary schools have primarily black children, then it's obvious the children will be black or brown. The children look very young, so are probably bored to tears with the whole thing. It's simply a case if kate meets brown children she is virtue signalling, if she meets primarily white children, she is racist. The absurdity of the whole situation I'm sure is recognised by the royal family and dismissed, as it should be.

Attacking the poster is just a cheap shot. I can never understand the virulence and the constant instruction to get a life etc etc. She has a life, she's interested in SM and the royal family and the spin on the two. People can go on MN and discuss fashion, feminism, TV, the kardashians, news, but the only virulence is reserved for the RF? So odd.

It's something you see played out constantly, especially on Twitter OP. And tbf, both sides do it, though The Sussex stans more predominantly.

They do seem to have ramped up in the last few weeks - possibly because the RF have had such good press, Kate especially. And Meghan hasn't had many events/appearances and the most recent was an absolute disaster especially.

They need to keep their "Princess" on a pedestal and to do that they have to attack who they see as her rival.

It's all they have because the Sussexes are becoming more irrelevant (unfortunately as is the normal way of it in Monarchies as the heir & family become more relevant), and they haven't yet found their niche and focus in America so its all going over old ground.

If they can find fulfilling, interesting, positive work in the US they can carve their own area, but it can't focus on them briefly being a Royal couple. Hopefully the production deals could work our for them.

Excellent summation.

Neither woman should have to deal with it.

I think fans on social media in general are crazy. I think it started with lady gaga and now many celebs have them. Taylor Swift etc. I do think sone celebs encourage it but if they were wiser they wouldn’t as fans can turn on you too.
look at the craziness over Jonny depp and amber heard both sides fan’s fighting each other.

Some of those kids look nervous, probably due to the cameras pointed in their direction. Some of those kids look bored and some are just pulling random expressions like kids/humans do.

Look at the media scrum around Tom Hanks and his wife asking for directions and struggling to hear.

It's barrel scraping to the maximum!

They aren't, though.

Even the most demented Meghan worshipper can see they are shunned there now.

On and on with the obsession.
Am I too late to enter the competition to find the most batshit attempt to mention Meghan Markle in a thread that is not about her directly? Is there a bonus for getting her full name in a thread title?

Did you not read the article? It is saying the Meghan fans on twitter are fuelling this nonsense. So of course it will have Meghan in the title. Meghan herself probably has nothing to do with it, but her fans have started the idiocy.

Just seen an actual video of the event the twitter twattery portrays. Young black boy (I mention his colour because the slant is it's a PR diversity stunt) and he's walking with Princess kate and they're chatting happily. Also sitting on the blanket with the kids looking happy and chatting with her. So it shows that you can take any still photo and portray it as something it isn't, to confirm your bias. The video showed happy relaxed people and kids.

Both the Wales’s and Sussex’s are as bad as each other in how they manage and manipulate the media. Their supporters feed off this. None of us know the truth - we’re not a part of their lives and don’t know them. It’s a soap opera with never ending instalments.

Ahh social media esp twitter the cesspit of the world. Who knows if accounts are bots, or people paid to troll and spread negativity. Some may be legit ppl who are pathetic for doing the same.

Which why people should just stop engaging in those spaces and more importantly dont repeat it elsewhere. No point giving more attention to it.

The mother of one of the young girls has come out and said she's upset at the way the photos are being commented kn and used to criticise Kate. She said her daughter had a lovely time and was excited to meet her, she still talks about it. Her daughter is disabled so has been bullied and she's upset her daughter's good experience is being used by SM tw@ts (my words) to bully another woman.

Dh represents someone/something that has rather enthusiastic online fans. It is a bit like “Misery” in that a proportion of the fans think they have ownership and make unreasonable (and occasionally scary) demands and threaten this, that and the other.

I read the other day that there is some in-fighting in the Sussex Squad et al because H&M are not giving anything back to them, whatever that consists of. Why should they, of course, but in this day and age of online hate mobs and people so easily influenced, you have to beware of your fans as much as your enemies.

@LadyMuckingabout I'm inclined to think what the sussex squad want from the Sussexes is more dirt on the royal family, more accusations of racism and more nasty revelations such as the book Spare gave. It seems those accusations were the start of the controversy.

So a difficult decision for the Sussexes. Continue to fuel their hatred of the RF inc catherine in particular but risk alienating more 'normal' people who think this is shooting fish in a barrel, even though it ups their income and profile, or just quitely go about their stated aim of service and humanitarian work, and lose money and sink into obscurity. Lets face it many people do that kind of work quietly and diligently without wanting awards and rewards.