PH lost bid to challenge for right to pay Home Office for his security

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I've probably garbled that, but that's the gist of it.

I really hope he doesn't carry on behaving recklessly like leaping in taxis with random drivers who aren't screened for booze and drugs and who are not trained for defensive driving.

You can't help thinking he's a catastrophe waiting to happen and it will of course be everyone else's fault.

Their clinging to their now-meaningless titles will come to look increasingly ridiculous, especially in the States (look at that sneery response to Harry's demand for the photos!).

That really was full-on sneer, wasn't it @CoffeeCantata!

And the comment about 'we stand by our founding fathers' - well, if Meghan does harbour political ambitions, that's a real put down on that front and she's smart enough to smell the danger.

It puts the Secret service in a bad light if one of their brightest and best was flummoxed by a few paparazzi

Are secret service the ones assigned to him if he gets his IPP status

@ProspectPark I don't agree with that. At first yes, the media would not leave him alone but they would very quickly lose interest. If he went 'quiet' and led a normal life, being boring then absolutely the media would lose interest and we would see far less coverage.

I'm not sure they would lose interest. He definitely would never be able to come back to Britain and live a 'quiet' life. Not till W's kids are teenagers at least and they've found a replacement. Let's hope for their sake they don't turn out charismatic!

I do feel sorry for him because I don't think he knows what true privacy is. He's grown up in a goldfish bowl, criticised in public, even as a teen. I don't blame him for being angry still. I grew up with a mother who criticised me openly to anyone who would listen and I'm still angry about that! So I understand that he has a lot of grievances he has to sort through and that includes these court cases. Until then the media will keep coming at him.

Oh Harry go and live a lovely life with your family, move on

It was an utterly nonsensical 'case'. I'm sure his legal 'team' were well aware of this, but happy to take his money.

Speaking of money, the money the Home Office used to pay their lawyers was essentially public money. I hope they ensure that Harry repays every penny of it.

What’s so crazy is he hasn’t even lost security when he needs it, it just will be judged on a case by case basis from now on.

Yes, and his security was never guaranteed. Even if he had remained as a working royal, it may well have been downgraded by now or at some point in the future.

Do Schillings not care about their reputation? This case was so obviously a complete crock. It doesn't look good that they're taking on such spurious cases.

the Sussexes must be a pretty huge account though with all the cases they bring and legal letters they send

Oh well what a shame for him. I'm sure that will please many here though.

Skimmed through - yep the unmistakable undercurrent of schadenfreude. Exit stage left.

I don't think he's got anything like that sort of money but yes, if he thinks he needs security he can pay for it himself.

I do feel sorry for him because I don't think he knows what true privacy is. He's grown up in a goldfish bowl, criticised in public, even as a teen. I don't blame him for being angry still. I grew up with a mother who criticised me openly to anyone who would listen and I'm still angry about that! So I understand that he has a lot of grievances he has to sort through and that includes these court cases. Until then the media will keep coming at him.

Everybody seems to forget that Harry was the most popular royal, the cheeky chappy, fun loving, war hero Harry, yes he was criticised in the press for his misdemeanours whilst young but it was never held against him, he was still incredibly popular. I also don’t understand why Harry shouldn’t be criticised for things that he did wrong, he is not beyond reproach as a member of the royal family, young or not. Harry’s true personality has come out now, he isn’t the person portrayed in the media pre marriage, the royal family and firm certainly did a good job protecting his cheeky chappy image.

Meanwhile Sophie is off to Iraq,
Edward in Germany, William visiting one of the earthshot winners in Hackney and Kate working on her early years project.

And Meghan is getting ready to receive her Gracie Award. What an arduous life of service!

Charles and Camilla were
giving out awards yesterday at the flower show.
Meghan must need a whole shelf just for her awards - what the merry hell is the graceless one for? 😂

It’s a shame these endeavours barely get any coverage and are not discussed with any vigour by the MN faithfuls – could it be because nobody cares? Not enough hours in the day it seems to devote attention to the ‘fab four’.

Maybe he was 'popular' but that doesn't explain how he felt inside - eg the drugs spread - how incredibly cruel was it to do that to a child still at school? Charles is a really, really shitty father. I'm sure these kinds of things had a damaging effect on his psyche. Like in that Big bang theory ep "the locus of his identity is external"

Not saying that H shouldn't be criticised at all but how much was H criticised for and how much was Will? Apparently at the party with the Nazi costume there were people there dressed as KKKs. (unverified though, I read this rumour ages ago.) But we only heard about Harry in the press.

We knew hardly anything of Will growing up - now we know he has a temper. I've also read that Harry was the foil for Will - all those clubs out drinking, Will was there too apparently, only he was bundled out the back with their bodyguards while Harry was pushed out to the front, to get the pics and all of the flak.

He's not protected and I don't think he ever was. And I don't think the way he's being portrayed in the media now is how he really is either.

We knew hardly anything of Will growing up - now we know he has a temper

yes, we did know about William growing up.

we don’t know he has a temper though - it’s Harry who has been pictured in public loosing his temper.

But even if he were to win this case, it would only apply in Britain. He's spent a total of a couple of weeks in Britain over the past 3 years. He'd still have to pay for his own security in California, where he spends the vast majority of his time.

If it's all about money, shouldn't he file a case against the State of California? I think it is about money, but also about ego and loss of status for Harry.

@TrashyPanda
Will has been in public shouting at a man
He throws things at Kate when they're fighting
He punched Harry
He shouted and pointed his finger in Meghan's face
etc etc

I honestly think that the whole situation could have turned out so differently if H&M hadn't burned all their bridges

No doubt it could, but that was their choice and choices have consequences - and if they left without planning properly that's on them too

Normally I'd say there may not have been time if Meghan really was as despairing as is claimed, but that doesn't chime with them still wanting to be half in/half out so seems like yet another "inconsistency"

Overall I agree the real problem's that he's never heard the word "no". In fairness that'll apply to most of them, but then because nobody else has acted as Harry's done it's perhaps not quite as obvious

Maybe he was 'popular' but that doesn't explain how he felt inside - eg the drugs spread - how incredibly cruel was it to do that to a child still at school? Charles is a really, really shitty father. I'm sure these kinds of things had a damaging effect on his psyche. Like in that Big bang theory ep "the locus of his identity is external"

Apparently Charles took both his sons to Featherstone Lodge Centre for the day when he found out about Harry smoking weed, they toured the grounds and heard about people’s experiences with drugs, that doesn’t sound like a really shitty Father to me.

Not saying that H shouldn't be criticised at all but how much was H criticised for and how much was Will? Apparently at the party with the Nazi costume there were people there dressed as KKKs. (unverified though, I read this rumour ages ago.) But we only heard about Harry in the press.

Maybe you only heard about Harry because it was only Harry who dressed as a Nazi. Harry has blamed William and Kate for this (what a surprise) if others had been dressed as the KKK I’m pretty sure Harry would have revealed it in Spare.

We knew hardly anything of Will growing up - now we know he has a temper. I've also read that Harry was the foil for Will - all those clubs out drinking, Will was there too apparently, only he was bundled out the back with their bodyguards while Harry was pushed out to the front, to get the pics and all of the flak.

So what is William has a temper, most people do, he’s only shown it quite mildly in public and that’s on the bike ride with Kate and the kids, I think he was very restrained considering. There are pictures of William in nightclubs, hand on woman’s breast remember?

He's not protected and I don't think he ever was. And I don't think the way he's being portrayed in the media now is how he really is either.

Of course his image was protected, now he is ‘free’ we see the real Harry in his own words and actions and it isn’t pretty, all self inflicted.

He already pays for private security in the US, it's not an issue because they are allowed to carry guns. Private security in the uk aren't allowed to do that.

He's not asking for the public to pay for met police in the UK, he wants to pay for it himself. Personally, they should have let him pay the police, surely that money could do some good, i.e. hire more police officers or something?

I read the Bunty as a kid. It doesn’t make Nurse Nancy real.

Looking at how H is reacting to things now, it wouldn’t surprise me one jot that an awful lot more has been deftly covered up.

I’m not sure his judgement has always been the best. He has probably always felt resentful. And as a result a bit rebellious. I get it. But he just cannot seem to see his blessings.

And as if by magic, he has got himself a wife he seems to adore and two bonny bairns and still he can’t think to himself - ‘I have it all really’ and glory in a bit of happiness.

He may have just cause to feel bitter and angry. But that ain’t a trait that makes for a happy wife.

And yes, Will got a man telt for being a creepy bastard for following him and his kids as they had a private moment. Most would react similarly.

And that unfortunate little mouthpiece would no doubt turn it into a near catastrophic kidnap situation.

The rest? What proof do you have?

Or was it in the Bunty?