PH lost bid to challenge for right to pay Home Office for his security

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I've probably garbled that, but that's the gist of it.

Only because Harry and meghan left!

Edward and Sophie totally mucked up half in/half out, and the press intrusion was horrible.

Back then she was in the pillory as totally unsuitable, disgrace to the royal family etc.

It's taken 20 years of largely unsung royal duties for their rehabilitation.

Sophie in particular adopted the Princess Anne approach of really learning how to be useful to organisations in her key areas (eg against rape as a tool of war, VAWG and FGM) and is now respected in those fields internationally (less so here, because the press don't report on those subjects much)

It's a route that is open to H&M should they wish to take it over the longer term

What a load of rubbish. Sophie and the fake sheikh scandal - no greed and gain there eh?

Over 20 years ago. Is that really the best you can do?

I posted this on another thread but these are summaries of the actual bios that the winners clearly wrote themselves.

LaTosha Brown
Co-Founder BLM and Black Voters Matter Capacity Building Institute
Founder Southern Black Girls & Women's consortium - $100m 10yr initiative to invest in organisations that serve black women and girls.
2020 House Leader at the Centre for Public Leadership at Harvard Kennedy School.
2020 Leader in Practice at Harvard Kennedy School in Women and Public Policy Programme.
2020-21 American Democracy fellowship Harvard.

Kimberley Inez McGuire
Exec Director Urge (Unite for Reproductive and Gender Equality)
Board Chair for Groundswell Fund
Board of Directors for the Sexuality Education and Information for the US
Co-chair Abortion on Own Terms campaign
2022 Vice Chair of Kansans for Constitutional Freedoms - secure abortions for Kansans.

Wanda Irving
President and co-founder Dr Shalons Maternal Action Project
It's an organisation that looks to improve the inequality of outcomes of black patients.
It was set up in honour of Wandas daughter, Dr Shalon, who died 3 weeks after giving birth.

Wanda Irving is a Ms Foundation Grantee Partner.

Meghan Markle
UN Womens Advocate for Women's Political Participation and Leadership
2016 World Vision Global Ambassador
2014 One Young World Counsellor
Co-founded Archewell Charity
Podcast Producer
Best selling author of The Bench
One of the most powerful women in the world.

Hmm, it does seem the others have achieved a lot. And of course Meghan too. To be one of the most powerful women in the world is a great feat. I wonder what swung it for her. Being in Suits, doing fashion shoots, marrying the grandson of Queen Elizabeth II, writing The Bench. It's a tough one.

Obviously Harry and Meghan are not important any more.

Sophie and Edward would still have been in the photo even if H&M hadn’t stomped off in a huff. Because they are working royals. And the King values them.

@behaveasbefitsthesituationwillyas - woke is fine to use as a word as it's meaning is known by many.

I think anyone who uses the words 'will yas' together is clearly uneducated so maybe can't comprehend anything beyond what's written for you in black and white and you can't read between the lines and lies. Albeit I'm not right wing, at least I'm educated and have a brain that can interpret lying manipulative social climbers who hoover up recognition that should be directed at the actual hard working people - she/they look for low hanging fruit and jump straight into that bandwagon to grab any recognition or reward they can after the schmoozing of people who give away such awards who again make a mint out of their (now very grubby and slippery) names - social back slapping and arse kissing without doing very much actual work

Says a lot about her character though.

Oh don't be stupid. It's a line from a movie. I can't be bothered to read the rest of your crap.

@FloofCloud Don't worry about it. Others who are more discerning and literate find @behaveasbefitsthesituationwillyas post extremely insightful and informative

Not half as much as describing yourself as “one of the most powerful women in the world” does!!!

wonder why she didn’t put “shy, retiring and modest”

Oh don't be stupid. It's a line from a movie

what is?

and what’s the movie?

I think a prolific poster on this board might have name changed.

Surely not, MrsD

I am shocked.

It's interesting in these awards she's getting that there is cross over of the same group of people getting multiple awards.

It seems like they align with particular political leftist identity politics (yes woke) ideology, which fits with the views of the boards of these awards.

I presume Meghan is therefore getting awards because she says the right kind of things that fit with this world view, and she has positioned herself as a victim against powerful forces which is the highest status you can have in this type of ideology.

At least that makes sense now. Before I kept thinking 'why is she getting an award she hadn't done anything??'

I suspect in LA expressing the correct views whilst claiming to be a victim, is the route to the powerful and influential. That's why they've gone there, she knows the rules of this game and can play it to her advantage.

We think all the moaning harms her, whereas in Hollywood it gives you status.
Whereas for poor old Harold the Brits can't be arsed with his moaning.

I know, you can't trust anyone these days. The lack of a capital letter and no spaces between words did ring a bit of a bell, though. Not to mention the slightly combative tone.

Only because Harry and meghan left!

for which we are truly grateful

Like happily lying to the court because you don’t think you’ll be found out, I guess.

Who do you think I am?! And more to the point, you do realise you can't add spaces in usernames, don't you?

Those of us discerning and literate find your posts quite spiteful, like your Diana thread, @polkadotdalmation.

Who you are is not something I trouble myself with. Ditto knowledge about usernames.

Very accurate summary I feel.

@behaveasbefitsthesituationwillyas Ooh, be nice!

@FloofCloud 100% well written and insightful.

@StrawberryWasp Basically an old boys network arrangement, but left wing, democrat, networking the same crowd, lots of 'charitable' (aka virtue signalling) events, wealthy, high profile people scratching each others backs. yea, woke lol

I still want to know about this movie quote.
wont somebody put me out of my misery?

I presume Meghan is therefore getting awards because she says the right kind of things that fit with this world view, and she has positioned herself as a victim against powerful forces which is the highest status you can have in this type of ideology.

Definitely these many (all?) these awards are linked with the Democratic Party. After all she approached Steinem to coordinate giving help to the Democratic Party. And it was from that that Steine said she'd help Meghan as much as she could and she got the award.

I also think it's Steinem's Ms Foundation that said that one person achievements (LaTosha Brown, I think) was getting the Democraric party elected by increasing the black vote. And the Kennedy Awards sort of speak for themselves.

Its not that Meghan is to blame for this, she's just playing the game. And I guess charities can give to people who align themselves politically or on message. For me it just devalues the actual point of awards - which I've always been sceptical about both at home and now in the US. There are plenty of starlets doing visits for the UN and getting paid to go to charities just like Mrghan did, giving out the exact same 'supportive to women' messages. Where are their awards, Gloria?