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Security for Harry and Meghan not a priority

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Viviennemary · 19/05/2023 10:12

Article in the DM reporting that Rishi Sunak has apparently said Harry and Meghan's security issues in New York are not a priority for him when he was asked about the car chase. He is concentrating on policing and safety of people in this country.

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Effieswig · 20/05/2023 20:00

notanotheroneagain · 20/05/2023 19:57

The article did not say some random put film pics on pornhub, it said H's girl his on Pornhub.

Hence they had to apologise and clarify later. It was misleading.

Like when Harry had to clarify that he wasn’t cut off in the first quarter of 2020?

smilesy · 20/05/2023 20:13

notanotheroneagain · 20/05/2023 19:53

Not too sure that is accurate.

But it's reasonable for the first year or so, especially with covid, to support someone and tell them to get on with it when things lift up.
I mean, TP did not have to house them forever.

Why is it reasonable?They left their jobs. They could afford a house. What has Covid got to do with it?

Butitsnotfunnyisititsserious · 20/05/2023 20:14

*Not too sure that is accurate.

But it's reasonable for the first year or so, especially with covid, to support someone and tell them to get on with it when things lift up.
I mean, TP did not have to house them forever.*

Why does an adult who has his own money alongside his wife with her own money, need supporting? They're not children.

8roses · 20/05/2023 20:15

Greedy and entitled

Maireas · 20/05/2023 20:15

TP never had to house them at all. No-one should feel they have to "house" very wealthy, well connected people who have made life choices.

Likewhatever · 20/05/2023 20:18

TP is known to be an empathetic man. He probably knows all about trying to make your dc financially secure.

He had an empty house (one of several actually), and he lent it to H&M.

He was directly approached for help by Meghan. She explains this in the Netflix documentary.

Bookist · 20/05/2023 20:19

YouWonJayne · 20/05/2023 18:47

It’s ludicrous really that the HR teams of other people’s workplaces won’t help with your MH issues.

I know. Anyone would think it wasn't actually their job or role and absolutely nothing to do with them, or whatever.

Maireas · 20/05/2023 20:20

*trying to make your dc financially secure"
In what way were Harry and Meghan not financially secure?.

IcedPurple · 20/05/2023 20:20

smilesy · 20/05/2023 20:13

Why is it reasonable?They left their jobs. They could afford a house. What has Covid got to do with it?

They didn't even need to be able to afford a house. They already had Frogmore, on the Windsor estate with its high level security. It was their choice to run off to the other side of the world without sorting out their finances first. How that is Charles' responsibility I simply fail to understand.

Bookist · 20/05/2023 20:23

mixedrecycling · 20/05/2023 18:08

I know, right? That's why my family are so unreasonable. How could I be expected to know how to handle that when I was only in my mid-30s?

Well quite. It's not like you were a fully grown adult who had received the very best education money can buy and furthermore had worked with mental health charities in the past. I completely get why finding support for your partner's mental health was an unsolvable problem.

Haywirecity · 20/05/2023 20:28

Cowparslee · 20/05/2023 19:52

I'd like to know what other sources of information there are. I regularly see the H&M supporters claiming that the haters get their info from the tabloids, but where do the supporters get theirs?

Sussex squad updates on Twitter?
Celebitchy?

I was looking at Celebitchy last night. I had to laugh. They're really annoyed that the world generally seems to doubt H&Ms story and that Backgrid were disgusting in not handing the photos over. They thought their statement was disgraceful. However they reckon Big Red (😂😂) has great attorneys so Backgrid will be humiliated and have to hand the photos over eventually. Oh and Backgrid now will fold because no media outlets or publicists will want to be associated with them.

They also believe that it's ridiculous to think H&M could have arranged for all those paps to follow in cars. (I agree.) But there are others that could. And that the British govt was involved in it because he has a court case against them. (That our govt could organise even 4 cars is funny enough alone. 😆 )

And that Kate had arranged the visit where she was wearing the green dress, (which they all obviously hated) either (and there was disagreement here) because she'd planned in advance to deliberately try to take attention away from Meghans award (I didnt know anything about the award til after the pap incident so was it well publicised in advance?); or organised it after the event to exploit Meghans discomfort. Either way, Kate had deliberately choreographed her arrival in such a way so that she was filmed getting out of the car (to mock Meghan because she had been trapped in hers - I kid you not); walking round the car to emphasise how the paps are under control in this country which Meghan, again, would find hurtful (?) and to demonstrate how free and safe she is in the UK; and smiling extra hard because she was laughing at Meghan.

I used to enjoy Celebitchy a few years ago but stopped reading when it became so royalty dominated. It was a bit samey and boring. However, it's gone to a level of crazy over Kate that I don't even recognise. It's beyond the UK articles that were written about Meghan - and I think she used to receive some rough treatment. Fortunately, their vitriol against Charles, Camilla, W & K is so extreme is actually quite funny.

Maireas · 20/05/2023 20:32

That sounds awful! Mind you, someone spouted some proper vile stuff on here about Kate a couple of weeks ago. Really vicious. Maybe got it from there. As you say, it's so nonsensical, it's comical.

polkadotdalmation · 20/05/2023 21:06

Never heard of celebitchy, so went there, read shit, googled it, found trustpilot, who give it 1 star, and the reviews are damning. Basically they hate Kate and Taylor swift (what the heck for?) and delete any negative comments about Meghan.

Now there are some really deluded people, and as it's not on MN I can say with confidence, celebitchy is full of trolls paid by the Sussex squad.

Peverellshire · 20/05/2023 21:26

Haywirecity · 20/05/2023 19:40

Why would he want or need money from his dad? From articles in newspapers, he has more money than Charles. I've read he's getting $300,000,000 for his book and $150,000,000. From Netflix. He only has to record an album and he'll be a billionaire. Hehe.

I suspect they may be ‘average for the hill’ & what if you want a fully staffed boat/yacht? Jet travel also outgoings, eye-watering. You could burn through it scarily fast.

What if you want the status of being the most important/wealthiest?

Howsimplywonderful · 20/05/2023 21:26

Had a quick look at that site. What horrible people on there.

Peverellshire · 20/05/2023 21:38

Bookist · 20/05/2023 20:23

Well quite. It's not like you were a fully grown adult who had received the very best education money can buy and furthermore had worked with mental health charities in the past. I completely get why finding support for your partner's mental health was an unsolvable problem.

Ah but the deal was a ‘glossy’ Priory type place where you could be residential for a stint with Hermes blankets artfully draped on Lauren sofas #no damp, UK crumbling housing units #no English bad teeth (triggering)…You know a ranch in LA type vibe, must be plenty? Not on flightpath near that medieval castle (Is it true the posh boys joust)?

Coxspurplepippin · 20/05/2023 21:42

Dear Lord, that Celebitchy site is something else. Harry and Meghan must be so proud to have such an amazing bunch of supporters Hmm

Haywirecity · 20/05/2023 21:49

polkadotdalmation · 20/05/2023 21:06

Never heard of celebitchy, so went there, read shit, googled it, found trustpilot, who give it 1 star, and the reviews are damning. Basically they hate Kate and Taylor swift (what the heck for?) and delete any negative comments about Meghan.

Now there are some really deluded people, and as it's not on MN I can say with confidence, celebitchy is full of trolls paid by the Sussex squad.

Haha. I'm 100% certain the majority are neither paid nor trolls. I recognise their names from even before Meghan appeared on the scene. They loved the RF before Meghan left it. They're just disaffected. When a black woman , as they see Meghan, married into a such an established, well-known family, they were delighted. When it didn't work out, they couldn't accept there might be fault on both sides because that would mean criticising Meghan. So they turned their vitriol on the RF. You can see how that would happen. It's very human.
Comments are screened and they won't let any be published that don't fit with what they say. (They admit that. ) Their point of view is liberal, black and Democratic supporting.
I think they have struggled to keep afloat because they started to try and promote products for income. However the RF inspire more that 5 or 6 times more comments (reflecting increased clicks) than other celebrities so it dominates their articles.
I only posted that summary because I know there are other disaffected readers of Celebitchy like me on MN. I used to love that site before these latest writers. It was really fun.

mpsw · 21/05/2023 07:35

Maireas · 20/05/2023 09:16

Of course Charles paid for Camilla's security before they were married. Why not?
He's not paying personally for anyone else. Andrew's now comes out of his own money, he also pays for Beatrice and Eugenie, much to his chagrin.
Personal decisions by family members are just that. Otherwise it's a branch of the police.

Just to be clear, he paid for private security for them.

Because the Met Police VIP protection squad isn't available for hire. By anyone.

Only crowd control policing sometimes has its costs defrayed by those hosting the events. Never personal protection

tigger2022 · 21/05/2023 07:46

notanotheroneagain · 20/05/2023 19:08

TP is known to be an empathetic man. He probably knows all about trying to make your dc financially secure.

He had an empty house (one of several actually), and he lent it to H&M.
He could afford it, why not. Unlike billionaire Charles who could not even bother with his own son who had lived with him for years, working for both the firm and the country via military.

Tbh I don’t think it’s charitable to give an entire empty mansion to a couple of millionaires in a state that includes half of all homeless people in the USA

EdithWeston · 21/05/2023 07:49

Coxspurplepippin · 20/05/2023 19:32

'The rags were getting false stories about H&M from the firm.'
Which false stories?

'Why didn't the palace dispute that then, considering they dispute botox and hair extension stories.'
The reason these stories were disputed was because the Botox and hair extension stories suggested Kate was a client of the companies who were using her in their advertising. They were told to stop it. The same was also done when a company suggested Meghan was using their diet pills.

I knew the Kate one was because it was an advertising claim (and those are routinely denied, for all members of the RF and I thought the gripe was that they had never issued similar denials for Meghan.

I'd just assumed that's because no company had used her in advertising (it's not common after all, because it tends to backfire as the official repudiation makes the company look grubby) and that knowledge of the routine nature of such repudiations wasn't that well known, particularly in the US.

But if they were being issued re MM too, then it makes the whole "unfair, Kate gets a better deal" whinge more than just ignorance. It makes it deliberate deception.

So what is the source of the info that denial was issued re MM and weight loss products?

Serenster · 21/05/2023 08:20

So what is the source of the info that denial was issued re MM and weight loss products?

Here is a link to an American magazine that goes through what happened:

The Mirror uncovered this online campaign, and asked Buckingham Palace to comment. The Palace "vowed to crack down," per the Mirror. A royal source added, "This is obviously not true and an illegal use of the Duchess’ name for advertising purposes. We will follow our normal course of action."

https://www.townandcountrymag.com/society/tradition/a28675767/meghan-markle-buckingham-palace-diet-pill-denial/

Scammers Said Meghan Markle Endorsed a Diet Pill. Buckingham Palace Shut Them Down.

Online ads for a weight loss pill featured fake quotes attributed to Meghan.

https://www.townandcountrymag.com/society/tradition/a28675767/meghan-markle-buckingham-palace-diet-pill-denial/

Maireas · 21/05/2023 08:21

Thank you, @Serenster . I didn't remember that.

mixedrecycling · 21/05/2023 08:40

I suppose if your default reaction to the difficult aspects of life is to get angry and fight and complain, if other people shrug their shoulders about the negatives and get on with their lives it might create the impression that they have it easier in some way. Whereas they just have a different approach to handling the cr*p.

queenofarles · 21/05/2023 08:48

When a black woman , as they see Meghan, married into a such an established, well-known family, they were delighted

ive seen this a lot and I have no idea why anyone would consider someone as well educated as Meghan marrying into a white rich , utterly stifling family as an accomplishment ? It sounds so backward ,
and the sad thing is it goes beyond that, they feel the need to defend 24/7 , participate in promoting their books wether it’s Meghan’s or Harry’s , buying even multiple copies to drive up sales , it’s insane it feels kind of cultish,