Catherine

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Does anyone else think Catherine looks unhappy these days? Her smile seems forced and she looks like she has lost her sparkle.

You really think that's all they do? Prince's trust from King Charles for example. Or Royal foundation from William and Catherine who raised 20 million pounds and gave it away to charity/grands. Or William's Eartshot Prize. Or Kate's Early Childhood foundation. Etc. Etc.

But that's where you are wrong. She was born a Catherine. Her name is CATHERINE. She calls herself Catherine. Her family calls her Catherine. Kate is and was her whole life a nick name. Just like people some times call her husband Wills. His name is still William.

William calls her Catherine.

It's hardly down to her what the media refer to her as

Oh give it a break. The guy who started the rumour has admitted he made it up.

As pp said Pippa called her daughter Rose. There's no way she'd have done that if there was any truth in the story

You only need to look at the Wales' together to see how happy they are together.

Is this allowed on this forum. I don't even know why the hell you would write something like that. It's abhorent.

What are you talking about? A stuttered take on the confusion between Kate and Catherine, or the way the Marchioness of Cholmondeley's family name is pronounced? Must be the compliment on the lovely figures of both though.

Copout. If you write something like that about someone do it with your whole chest and don't come with that lame excuse. It's just abhorrent.

Agreed as soon as I read that post I knew exactly what that poster was doing. Nasty.

@Atishoos - vile, vile post

Yes that was a pissed Giles Coren! Hope it wasn't true as I believe in fidelity but ultimately it's between the two families.

William calls her Catherine.

In public, now, he does. In private she’s Kate. He called her Kate throughout their early interviews, Harry calls her Kate throughout his book. My friend has hosted them at sporting events every summer for years. William calls her Kate as do her family.

You are wrong. William calls her both. They are a lot of videos where he calls her Catherine. Kate is her nickname and Catherine is her name. If she introduces herself she calls herself Catherine. Her brother if he talks about her calls her Catherine.

I don't understand why it is so hard to understand.

Her given name is Catherine. Her nickname is Kate.
HIs given name is William. His nickname is Wills.

Agreed as soon as I read that post I knew exactly what that poster was doing. Nasty.
i hope it doesn’t get deleted , let others see it too,

He calls her Catherine because she’s tried to change what she’s known as in public. Queen Kate is not very, er, queenly.

Catherine may be her preferred name for the public to know her as, but she is Kate to those that an actually know her.

To me, it’s like Harry trying to change his name in the media to Henry. That’s his given name, but not what people call him and it just wouldn’t stick.

Does it really matter if the PoW prefers Catherine to Kate? Edward VIII was David to the family, George VI was Bertie. It’s not forelock tugging to use the name someone has asked of them. It’s polite.

No he calls her Catherine because that's her name. And uses her nickname at other times. Just like his name is William and at other times people use his nickname Wills.

(Harry never went with his birthname it was always Harry. He himself doesn't introduce himself as Henry, that's the difference.)

And because newspapers use her nickname for the last 20 years doesn't change that her name is Catherine. She introduces herself as Catherine to people. She signs Catherine on documents. Or in guestbooks. Etc.

It's not her fault that media uses her nickname for everything. And they refuse to change it. Even now it's Kate Middleton. Because that is what brings the clicks.

Did you reply to the wrong person?? I completely agree with you

@YouWonJayne sorry I was replying to the other post in the quote 🤦🏻‍♀️

It really serves no one to speculate like this and is really unedifying. If you think about this beyond the salaciousness of it all - what you’re talking about makes no logical sense whatsoever.

She is getting older, dealing with her very young kids. Of course she will be tired at times, or most of the time if she needs to prove to everyone how amazing she is. I genuinely think she is the best that ever could have happened to these crazy weirdos Up there

Oh give it a break. The guy who started the rumour has admitted he made it up

This isn't true though. The timeline doesn't work.

The Giles Coren tweet came after the "rural rivals" stories were all already running, and newsdesks across the country were having a bit of a fun seeing how far each other would dare go.

Whether the affair happened or not; it's not accurate to say that Giles Coren made it up. What he did do was apparently confirm a story that was already well out there, but then backtrack when put under pressure to do so.

But the "rural rivals" story never mentioned an affair. It just mentioned that the 2 women had a falling out so yes, he clearly is the one that started the rumour

But the "rural rivals" story never mentioned an affair. It just mentioned that the 2 women had a falling out so yes, he clearly is the one that started the rumour

Ok, I'll try to explain more clearly. The rumours had been everywhere for months (at least that I'm personally aware of - maybe longer in the Norfolk gentry etc, which is not me). Then in early 2019 a sort of arms race began in the media.
All newsrooms wanted to demonstrate they knew what was going on, but didn't want to be the first to cross the line and risk legal action.
This happens a lot when journalists are writing about celebrities. If there are pointless stories in the press about someone very famous and you're wondering why it's there, chances are it's a wink wink to those in the know about the real story nobody dares be the first to print. There are countless examples out there, but google Elton John and "celebrity couple" for one of the most obvious ones in recent years.

So the silly "rural rivals" stories ran instead of the real story. Journalists had a lot of fun with it; most people within the media knew exactly what was happening, but lots of readers either believed the story was really about a fall out (which makes no sense) or wondered what the real story was, so started searching on social media to find out.
Lots of people at that point started tweeting the "real" story behind the "rural rivals" nonsense but none of them had any following or any impact until Giles Coren. He was well known, had a large following - so was put under pressure to backtrack. Which he did.

Note, I'm not saying the rumours are true. I have no idea if they are or not. I'm just saying they had been circulating for a long time and were common knowledge across newsrooms long before Giles Coren got involved.

Sorry to derail the thread.

@trailrunner85 does it make you feel better to speculate about other people’s families like this? Would you like it if someone did the same about yours? Do you think you have a right to other people’s private business?

The media behaviour you’re detailing above is exactly why Harry and Meghan felt they had to leave and why Meghan’s mental health took such a bashing. Think about the beast you’re feeding with this sort of nonsense.

As @skullbabe said, unedifying.