What next for the Sussexes?

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I thought yesterday couldn't have gone better, all things considered; there was the least amount of drama or negative coverage possible regarding the Sussexes.

I'd like to hope that this marks a fresh start. Harry's got all the recriminations off his chest. The Royal Family have maintained a dignified silence and hopefully the future is rosy. The Sussexes can have the life they want in the US, with a small presence in family events back here when appropriate. (I wouldn't be surprised however if Megan never makes it back on UK soil).

@KattyJo That 'interview' which asked no relevant questions, and probed to no level, is an example of a word salad, if anyone wants to know. It all sounds very convincing, but is easily picked apart, as a pack of lies

why don't we call the entire royal family child molesters?

Some people on here do exactly that!

They should happily live out their chosen lives "overseas" and leave the current RF to it. Although we all know they won't.

why don't we call the entire royal family child molesters?

Some people on here do exactly that!

Do they?

Can you expand?

Have you not seen the posts stating Mountbatten's supposed paedophilia as fact? Pointing out Charles 'friendships' with Saville, van der Post, how close he was to Mountbatten, and saying it 'can't be a coincidence'? Calling Andrew a paedophile, and questioning why his siblings have been seen socialising with him?

try being the voice of reason, and you will get mauled!

Andrew is not a paedophile. I hate that word bandied about. However, we know he paid off a victim of sex trafficking, is, or was, best friends for decades with a sex trafficker now in prison for 20 plus years, he fraternised a lot with a convicted sex offender and reluctantly gave up the friendship when it became apparent it was becoming public knowledge.

Charles and Peter Ball... say no more.

Mountbatten, well... his predilictions were well known. He had a perversion for young boys. And there is an ongoing court case

I do not for one minute think any of the other RF indulge in this sort of disgusting behaviour.

Indeed! I have been mauled a good few times, but have survived. Obviously either a) too tough and stringy or b) considered poisonous!

From many of the posts referring to me, it's B 😂but, let's face it, the 'mauling' is from about half a dozen random people on the internet. I'll live...

It was 'well known' for years that there was a (literally) murderous paedophile ring in Westminster political circles. Except, there wasn't.

That was why millions were spent following up Carl Beech's accusations Carl Beech: Liar, fraudster and paedophile - BBC News

There is a court case about abuse in children's homes in Northern Ireland, and I think it is a good thing that the evidence will be heard in court.

We all know about Carl Beech. An awful case, wasted time and resources on a huge scale.

One man.

Yes. And, of course, Eleanor Williams.

The sad thing is far, far more young people are victims of grooming and abuse than others are the victim of false allegations. But 'innocent until proved guilty' is an important principle for everyone's sake. I am sure you would want that for yourself if you were ever accused of wrongdoing.

The point being, your words saying Mountbatten's 'predilictions were well known' does raise the question of how you know the accusations are true?

Yes of course I would? Who wouldn't?

However.... if you are referring to Mountbatten, I don't doubt there was an element of protection because of who he was.

Up to you what you think of Mountbatten. I'm not going into it here to be maligned undoubtedly. And as I say there is a court case going on.

I'll leave it there.

Yes, that is why Carl Beech's accusations were believed. Because it was completely credible that the people he accused would have been protected. It is a sad reflection on the way justice is distorted by power and influence.

But it didn't make Beech's accusation true.

As I said, it is good that accusations are tested in court, rather than being believed as a case of 'no smoke without fire', and 'of course he would have been protected'.

Best for everyone that these things are made public, whatever the result.

And I have no idea whether the accusations about Mountbatten are true or not. Neither, I suspect, do you.

In what way am I 'maligning' you?

You aren't. I'm avoiding it.

Loaded questions can sometimes be not worth it.

As I said in my post, I'll leave it there.

Great, glad we agree! The court case is a good thing, and hopefully will help establish the truth. None of us have any idea whether the accusations against Mountbatten are true or not. All good 😀

Y'know, after 20 minutes or so, the more I worry about the attitude of belief in the absence of any proof.

Because over and over again that benefits the powerful. 'That nice respectable person couldn't be an abuser' happens far more often than 'those allegations of abuse must be true'.

But that blind belief comes from the same muddled thinking - and, on the whole, it is the victims that lose out. Accusations should be taken seriously and investigated, without assumption of guilt or innocence.

Accusations should be taken seriously and investigated, without assumption of guilt or innocence

Quite right, and of course this is how Charles came to be officially criticised in the IICSA report over his support for Peter Ball

Interesting that you missed that one out in the list of things which may or may not be true ...

Because I didn't know! Then quite right, and I hope he has learnt his lesson 😀

From what I have now read IICSA said Charles support was 'misguided'? Not that he knew of Ball's abuse?

Sorry, that doesn't clearly say what I am asking. So, if I understand correctly, IICSA found that he knew of the accusations and found them impossible to reconcile with the person he knew, i.e. closed his mind to the possibility that they were true?

Sadly, all too common. And he was wrong to do that.

Which is why so many abusers get away with it.

Nice derailing of a thread by the Sussex fan club to shift the focus from the Sussex lies!