What next for the Sussexes?

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I thought yesterday couldn't have gone better, all things considered; there was the least amount of drama or negative coverage possible regarding the Sussexes.

I'd like to hope that this marks a fresh start. Harry's got all the recriminations off his chest. The Royal Family have maintained a dignified silence and hopefully the future is rosy. The Sussexes can have the life they want in the US, with a small presence in family events back here when appropriate. (I wouldn't be surprised however if Megan never makes it back on UK soil).

Oh dear. If it was indeed staged in this way then it doesn't bode well for Harry.

I do wonder what my NDNs think when I go walking every day on my own... they've written him off, my marriage is in big trouble 😂

I've never heard anything so ridiculous!

I know right? I repeated it to my DH earlier who found it hilarious as I walk and run a lot by myself.

Please tell me that you wear weighted belts and anklets, @Whaeanui and @Roussette?

Not belts, my friend wears a weighted vest. I sometimes wear ankle weights and carry little hand weights but I’m old school.

I have a spacehopper belly Maireas.

Will that do? A slightly more pronounced silhouette but it does the weight part quite well.

And I’m sure it weighs substantially more than the tiny bumpy bit Meghan was sporting… 😳🫣

Haha... noooo.... I just plod on mile after mile after mile... no weights!

Ah. So when you're next out with your entourage, or pals from the pub, remember to consult a California fitness guru who would advise adding weights to give good muscle definition for your next awards ceremony. I like to think that watching Inside the Factory while eating Sparkies caramel dessert is workout enough for me, but then I'm unlikely to get an award from the Kennedys, but what can you do.

when people die young suddenly and tragically like Diana did, relatives and
people who know
them (especially the children of said person
if they're under the age of 18), tend to place them on an impossibly high pedestal and freeze them in time at that young age. Add to that a very traumatic situation like a toxic divorce = a recipe for martyrdom.
In all likelihood, if Diana had lived, almost 30 years on from the divorce, she'd have remarried someone wonderful and forged a friendly at best, civilised at worst, relationship with both Charles and Camilla and maybe Harry would have wanted to sell the family secrets via the media, but you can guarantee they'd have also contained some rants against his Mum and his new stepdad too.

You have a point, @river2 . I have read that near the end, Charles and Diana had reached an amicable state, and were both keen to develop a better relationship. I think that may well have happened, and they could all have moved on.

The point is that none of that happened.

And Diana was in no friendly terms with Camilla.

Also, no family secrets were sold. Spare was a clarification , not a revelation. We'd seen it all before in tabloids and books.

Spare was not a clarification. As you said above it’s Harry’s ‘memories’ - flawed and incorrect as they may be and as he said in the book himself

And he specified at the beginning of each memory wether it was something fed to him or not.

Exactly. Not someone to allow the truth to get in the way of a good story. Reminds me of someone else.

Much of it was clarifying things that appeared in the media already. Did you read it?

If Harry said his memory was flawed, why should we doubt that ?

Did you read the book? Including that part? Anne recently made similar comments about what are memories and what are things she’s seen of herself or what others have told her about her life. Fairly common. Doesn’t mean someone lies or that it distorts real events.

Except when you weren’t actually at Eton but Skiing…

Basically if you can't trust someones memory of events, how can you trust anything else they say. I can remember events that occurred as a child in broad terms, like places, but I would probably confuse smaller details.

When you revisit a memory your brain alters it slightly. If you revisit things over and over and over (rumination) as Harry clearly does, those memories become flawed. Hence why i don't believe half of what he says. He's not the clearest or the most transparent narrator and I suspect that his early drug taking is partly to blame. Also to blame for his extreme paranoia, although to be fair, he has good reason to be paranoid

Is it really so unusual that someone misremembers something like this? I don’t think so. Me and my siblings often correct minor details in each others memories- or argue about them. They’re not signs of lying but simple misremembering where you heard about someone’s death when you have a crazy life like he does.

but I would probably confuse smaller details.

Then, using your logic, nobody can trust you

Well, if you are using it as an example of how badly treated you were, how cold and unloving your family was, it would be just as well to get it right, maybe?

Charles was cheating with Camilla and his other mistresses while they were still engaged, while Diana was still a virgin.

As for the hiking pics, I thought it came out that they were old, and the pap had sat on them for a week or so and then released them right after the coronation? I don't follow royals or Meghan much so I might be wrong.

It's alarming how obsessed the British press still are with her.

I think it's interesting that people can simultaneously believe everything in the book and characterise all the lies misremembering as completely normal and no big deal. If you accept that his memory is so flawed that it gets quite basic facts wrong, and that he and the ghost writer either didn't check or decided to leave the lies mistakes in because implicitly criticising Charles and establishing victimhood were more important than telling the truth, how can you believe any of it?

And in each and every chapter, he tells us when that memory is hazy or maybe flawed. Infact he goes into detail over it.

For each flawed memory, he lets us know from the start : 'this is flawed, because it may have been fed to me by the rf, it's a running narrative. '