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The royal family

The lack of enthusiasm for the Coronation

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MamoruHisaishi · 02/05/2023 12:53

I know this is shallow but I think part of the reason why people aren't enthusiastic about Charles’ coronation is that neither he nor Camilla have movie star good looks plus they're both in their 70s. I bet if both were in their 30s or even 40s, and Charles looked like Pierce Brosnan and Camilla looked like Angelina Jolie, they would have the world fawning over them and their Coronation.

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Nereides · 02/05/2023 16:26

I wasn’t alive at the time, but googling it apparently it was 16 months. Maybe if Charles had waited another year people would muster up more enthusiasm. I guess they daren’t wait that long in case he dies.

Flappingtarps · 02/05/2023 16:29

Ringmaster27 · 02/05/2023 16:16

There’s a very clear divide where I am. There’s a fair bit of small village community spirit, planning village picnics and street parties etc….
Then there’s the camp I fall into, who actively oppose the coronation and the monarchy as a whole. I think it’s gross, completely tone deaf, and an obscene waste of public funds.
I just imagine Charles and Camilla having a right old giggle “Oh I know they’ve been financially fucked up the arse the past few years, but the peasants will enjoy an extra day off work won’t they dear?” 😑😑👍🏻

I agree it’s so tone deaf when there is a homelessness crisis and C & C have about 12 stately at their disposal (yes I know some are state owned) but they can still go and stay in them.

Working couples are having to use food banks and they have private chefs.

It’s impossible to see a doctor without waiting a fortnight and they open wings of hospitals while having access to the best of private health care.

Basic public transport costs a fortune and they have chauffeurs and helicopters!

Working women struggle to pay childcare and they have nannies.

Imho, owing to the very nature of the huge discrepancies above, if they are truly there to serve the British people, they can no longer do the job with any credibility.

CanadianRose · 02/05/2023 16:30

I’m in canada and no one even really talks about it. They don’t seem to hate the new family but they don’t really seem to care either. Then again there is just naturally less enthusiasm in general in canada. But they at least seemed to speak fondly of the Queen and there was a quiet sadness in her passing. But now it seems as if the king could get thrown into a wood chipper though and they wouldn’t even notice here.

Justmuddlingalong · 02/05/2023 16:33

I wish they'd just plonk a crown on the pair of them, as the half time entertainment during eurovision.
2 birds, one stone, save millions.

Roussette · 02/05/2023 16:37

theDudesmummy · 02/05/2023 16:25

The Queen was crowned in June 1953, her father had died in February the previous year.

I think this coronation is obscene and indefensible. I'd abolish the monarchy now, or at least go for a Dutch style one.

I can't agree with you more on the Dutch monarchy.

I have just returned from Holland. Kings Day over there was last week and it is for the people. No licences needed to sell on the street for anyone, so children set up little tables all over, partying on the canals, the King & Queen and their adult children visit a different province every year, and spend hours with the locals, dancing and playing games, having fun.

I just think we are so outdated and archaic, with this oil annointing, shrouds, Anne with the gold stick thing, ermine, tiaras and all of that. It's so far removed from real life.

angstridden2 · 02/05/2023 16:40

I find it strange that in a country which decapitated a king who genuinely believed in the divine right of kings, a monarch is going to be anointed with blessed oil from Jordan behind a screen.

Novella4 · 02/05/2023 16:41

@Roussette
"Queen Beatrix of Netherlands had it right"

Despite what Beatrix did , the royals are also falling in popularity in the Netherlands
And the Windsors cannot be compared to other , more low key Euro 'royals'
As we know only the Uk 'royals' insist on a coronation
Literally involving god and saying he's given them the nod . The arrogance of it .Let alone the huge cost
Charles said he would be modern.
Well that was another lie - like the one when said Camilla would be princess

But it has all backfired. The robes ( imperial robe mind you - let's cosplay Empire for the gammons who pretend we still have one) , the gaudy coaches , and the pledge....

It's all gone a bit dystopian

And I agree with you OP - their ages do matter .
Two elderly heads with the crowns plonked on . There is something discordant about that .
It is intensifying the wastefulness somehow

Novella4 · 02/05/2023 16:45

@larkstar

Charles is king for England only .

They don't say that quiet bit

Flappingtarps · 02/05/2023 16:46

Roussette · 02/05/2023 16:31

@Flappingtarps

On Patronages, this is really worth a read. A massive study into what the RF bring (or not) to charities.

https://giving-evidence.com/2020/07/16/royal-findings/

Wow Rousette that’s absolutely fascinating! Thank you for linking.

Especially as that research is done on behalf of charities looking for advice as to whether having a royal patronage boosts their revenue and it appears, on first glance, that it doesn’t particularly.

LumpySpaceGoddess · 02/05/2023 16:48

We really don’t care what they look like! There’s no love for the royal family in our house.

Sudeko · 02/05/2023 16:48

If they wanted to impress younger people then they could have carried out the whole coronation using avatars. It would be far more interesting and they could also invite the no shows in avatar form.

Sudeko · 02/05/2023 16:50

They could use younger versions of themselves like in Abba Voyage and perform biblical-style miracles or even breakdance.

AxolotlOnions · 02/05/2023 16:52

Choccablocca · 02/05/2023 15:23

Alex Johnson - I missed that one, must have been PM in less time than Liz Truss 😂

He was the PM during Covid. He thinks using one of his middle names more fits his fake public persona but nobody that knows him calls him Boris, all his family and friends know him as Alexander/Alex.

ditalini · 02/05/2023 16:54

I think it has unfortunately brought the whole nonsense into focus, and it doesn't really bear close scrutiny. The Queen did well on nostalgia, but going forward we don't have that.

My dad told me recently that when the national anthem switched back to GSTK and they all sang it at church, he actually became acutely aware of the words for the first time and realised what a shoddy anthem we have, never mentioning the country at all, just droning on about the monarch.

He's nearly 80 and has fond memories of the last coronation (nostalgia - memories very entwined with watching it in the only house on the street with a TV), but he's not interested in this one.

Allthegoodnamesarechosen · 02/05/2023 16:56

I keep saying to God ‘ there’s still time’.

only partly joking.

Roussette · 02/05/2023 16:57

Flappingtarps · 02/05/2023 16:46

Wow Rousette that’s absolutely fascinating! Thank you for linking.

Especially as that research is done on behalf of charities looking for advice as to whether having a royal patronage boosts their revenue and it appears, on first glance, that it doesn’t particularly.

Thanks! It has been decried on here time and time again when I've linked it before but it is a databse with 3 million entries after all.... even if there's a bit of poetic licence, it can't all be wrong!

Novella4 · 02/05/2023 16:58

Re : abdication

It would undermine the Windsors ultra - monarchist ' anointed ' by god and here for life - we don't retire ( because they don't work)

But I've a feeling Charles will abdicate within a few years .
He'll think he's great and being modern but it will make the medieval floor show and expense even morr of a pisstake

Roussette · 02/05/2023 16:58

Decried by royalists, that should say...

Roussette · 02/05/2023 17:00

Novella4 · 02/05/2023 16:58

Re : abdication

It would undermine the Windsors ultra - monarchist ' anointed ' by god and here for life - we don't retire ( because they don't work)

But I've a feeling Charles will abdicate within a few years .
He'll think he's great and being modern but it will make the medieval floor show and expense even morr of a pisstake

But it's not just the cost of the Coronation is it... I won't link it again, but changing monarch costs billions. New postage stamps, currency, uniforms, constitutional papers and such like

Flappingtarps · 02/05/2023 17:00

Allthegoodnamesarechosen · 02/05/2023 16:56

I keep saying to God ‘ there’s still time’.

only partly joking.

Well his marriage to Camilla was delayed by the funeral of Pope Paul II if I recall … 😁

Novella4 · 02/05/2023 17:04

@Roussette

I hadn't even thought of that !

Inkanta · 02/05/2023 17:04

As we know only the Uk 'royals' insist on a coronation.
Literally involving god and saying he's given them the nod . The arrogance of it

I know. Arrogance, grandiosity, and superiority isn't a good look anymore. In fact it's associated with narcissism and we are wised up to narcissism and we know it's not something we value and aspire to. Equality - the sharing of power and open honest communication is the future.

MsMoney · 02/05/2023 17:07

I don’t care what they look like or how old they are, I’m not interested because they’re a shitty toxic family, and for bizarre reasons connected to the luck of birth, are seen as better than most other people.

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