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The royal family

The lack of enthusiasm for the Coronation

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MamoruHisaishi · 02/05/2023 12:53

I know this is shallow but I think part of the reason why people aren't enthusiastic about Charles’ coronation is that neither he nor Camilla have movie star good looks plus they're both in their 70s. I bet if both were in their 30s or even 40s, and Charles looked like Pierce Brosnan and Camilla looked like Angelina Jolie, they would have the world fawning over them and their Coronation.

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MrsSweatyBetty · 02/05/2023 15:40

It's like being asked to celebrate Jimmy Savile's brother, if Jimmy Saville's brother had paid off victims....why would you?

Roussette · 02/05/2023 15:43

YellowAndGreenToBeSeen · 02/05/2023 15:21

@Roussette thats exactly how I feel. A small, respectful ceremony without huge pomp and circumstance would have won my respect and support.

This circus has had the completely opposite effect.

I agree. Massive cost to the economy with another bank holiday and once the party (because that is what it is... a party for Charles we pay for) is over... the bunting is all bedraggled in the rain, the credit card bill comes in, and the whole thing is over on Tuesday (thank god)... it will just be a financial headache and next day party blues.

shard5 · 02/05/2023 15:51

There's something like 8 different sectors striking on and off, much of the country feel ripped off by sky high rents, bills and costs of generally everything, the royal family have feel as important as chip wrapping with always being in the news with their crappy relationships plus the huge cost of the jubilee, the funeral and now the coronation.
They just carry on with their pomp and pomposity whilst the rest of us feel like we're drowning with no shore in sight.
Is it any surprise then that there seems to be no enthusiasm?
Although I'm sure on Saturday we will be shown a somewhat different view

milveycrohn · 02/05/2023 15:51

Although I like the RF I feel embarrassed about a huge extravaganza. I understand it is a religious ceremony, but then I am not really religious, as I suspect most people are not either. (or other religions). Some things seem to be pared down, but others are not.
For example, I would quite like to see all the peers (Aristocratic Dukes, etc) but they have not been invited (or only a few).
The religious bit is the bit I find embarassing and actually wearing the crowns,, annointing of oil, etc
I think it will be obvious that this reign will be a lot shorter than the last, so I hope a lot of this stuff will be dispensed with when it is William's turn.
I thnk there are fewer street parties this year, because everyone's energies went into the jubilee last year.
That said, I hope it is a success for all involved. I won't be watching live, but will record it so I can watch and skip the boring bits later.

shard5 · 02/05/2023 15:53

Religion normally requires a person to live a life of simplicity, religion is never about being frivolous and pride.

GrimDamnFanjo · 02/05/2023 15:57

I think society has moved on and we live in different times.
The decline of Christianity plays a small part too.
The obvious thing is that the RF could make changes if they wanted to but they don't. Why would they?
I always recommend Norman Bakers book. It's a real eye opener.

Rockybooboo · 02/05/2023 15:59

MrsSweatyBetty · 02/05/2023 15:40

It's like being asked to celebrate Jimmy Savile's brother, if Jimmy Saville's brother had paid off victims....why would you?

Jimmy Saville was a good friend of Charles.

GrimDamnFanjo · 02/05/2023 16:00

And also the PR machine is cranked up to max levels.
The stories being released have little interest to real people.
The DM carries a story today about Kates evening wedding dress ffs.

Choccablocca · 02/05/2023 16:02

WheelsUp · 02/05/2023 15:28

I'd forgotten that Alexander was his actual first name too.

Oh I stand corrected - I have learnt something new on this thread, feeling better for mindlessly scrolling Mumsnet.

Vinvertebrate · 02/05/2023 16:03

Maybe people don’t care because they simply don’t give a fuck?

Team DGAF here! Planning a mooch around M&S to buy yummy food when it’s empty of fawning subjects!

Arginalia · 02/05/2023 16:05

They haven't helped themselves with the way it's organised - Coronation on Saturday, then nothing unless people organise their own 'Big Lunch' until the concert Sunday evening and nothing at all happening on Monday, the actual bank holiday, other than the promotion of volunteering, which isn't exactly exciting.

They could have done with a parade on the last day, as there was with the Platinum Jubilee. As it is, it's just a fizzle after Saturday and any excitement will be long over by Monday.

BeautifulWar · 02/05/2023 16:06

I think most people are royalled out. We've had a royal wedding, the Harry and Meghan debacle, the Queen's jubilee, the Queen's funeral.

The general public are feeling royal fatigue and no-one gives a shit any more (except die-hard Royalists).

BeautifulWar · 02/05/2023 16:08

Dammit, I forgot Prince Sweaty Pits.

😬

flutterbyebaby · 02/05/2023 16:09

I was rather put off by his mini tantrum over a pen when signing proclamations.

Possibilitiesxyz · 02/05/2023 16:10

MamoruHisaishi · 02/05/2023 12:53

I know this is shallow but I think part of the reason why people aren't enthusiastic about Charles’ coronation is that neither he nor Camilla have movie star good looks plus they're both in their 70s. I bet if both were in their 30s or even 40s, and Charles looked like Pierce Brosnan and Camilla looked like Angelina Jolie, they would have the world fawning over them and their Coronation.

I find it hard to get enthusiastic over such a show of wealth when their are people starving. Kids literally living on the streets while they flaunt their obscene wealth. Looks are irrelevant

TaLooLaBell · 02/05/2023 16:11

It's being pretty much ignored up here

AskMeMore · 02/05/2023 16:13

I agree there are a number of reasons so many people are meh about it all. The Coronation should be a very big deal, and it just isn't.
There is a group of people who are still very unhappy about the treatment of Diana and so do not support Camilla being crowned Queen.

There is another group who are just busy struggling with the cost of living and so unhappy about the amount being spent.

And lastly those who would normally support are a bit meh as frankly the whole thing is so badly organised. The concert line up is uninspiring. They could have had a concert that people really wanted to watch on TV whatever they thought about Charles and Camilla and where the tickets are coveted. But they really are not. And how the tickets were distributed was fiasco and just led to ridicule on twitter.
The bell ringers - they have reached nowhere the numbers they wanted. The volunteering idea is a damp squib. And the swearing the allegiance in front of your TV is attracting wide spread ridicule.

Flappingtarps · 02/05/2023 16:14

Roussette · 02/05/2023 15:18

I am just so surprised at Charles. I really shouldn't be, but I am. I know we are stuck with a Monarchy whether we like it or not, and I honestly thought Charles would be a bit different?

He has talked for two decades about slimming down, but to him that seems to mean only 'working' royals on the balcony. I honestly thought he might have a small short coronation that could be screened on BBC2, with no fuss, no palaver, no gold coaches, just a simple ceremony. Especially as he doesn't have to have anything at all, he is already King.

But the £8M on portraits/pictures of him, along with this absolutely massive eye watering expensive coronation thing has me so disappointed in him. He has talked of giving over houses to the public, he opened Dumfries House for one afternoon a week for free tea and warmth... so what. He could've gained some of my respect (even as a non Royalist) but he's blown it for me.

I wanted to see real quanitifiable change with him. It's not happening.

Absolutely Roussette I couldn’t agree more. And we’ve had Princess Anne now saying that slimming down doesn’t seem a good idea from her pov. I mean it’s ridiculous! Everyone knows that slimming down will require a huge corresponding cull of patronages. Sorry but does any charity really care if Edward can’t come and visit them on a wet Tuesday? Would it really make much difference to their income?

Also, I know Anne is hard-working and an amazingly talented equestrian, albeit a rather charmless one imho, and it’s all very well being down to earth and no nonsense and serious, when it enables you to conveniently ignore the fact that you live on a massive country estate gifted to you by your late mother and you’ve never had the worry of having to train up a horse and sell it when it’s just got to the peak of its talent, like her fellow competitors had to.

She may well have acquired a lot of knowledge about her charities and works hard for them but so could many of us given her advantages.

It’s all so wrong imho and if that makes me sound immature and like a fifteen year old then so be it!

Ringmaster27 · 02/05/2023 16:16

There’s a very clear divide where I am. There’s a fair bit of small village community spirit, planning village picnics and street parties etc….
Then there’s the camp I fall into, who actively oppose the coronation and the monarchy as a whole. I think it’s gross, completely tone deaf, and an obscene waste of public funds.
I just imagine Charles and Camilla having a right old giggle “Oh I know they’ve been financially fucked up the arse the past few years, but the peasants will enjoy an extra day off work won’t they dear?” 😑😑👍🏻

Nereides · 02/05/2023 16:18

It’s a bit late. It’s been 8 months since the Queen died. She was coronated 4 months after her father died. People have got bored waiting. He’s already been king since last year and people have lost interest.

Anyway, he’s a symbolic head of state at most, because he’s too elderly to be functional. Also the Queen knew he’d be terrible at the job and that’s why she didn’t abdicate earlier. Pretty much nobody likes him nor cares about him. I think most of us are hoping he’ll die young so William can be king.

EtonMessy · 02/05/2023 16:18

Because the days of forelock tugging are thankfully gone and hopefully soon so will the monarchy too !!

maddiemookins16mum · 02/05/2023 16:19

I’m a bit meh about it and usually love all things RF. That said, we've a Coronation Brunch happening on Saturday 10.30-2pm at ours and have 20 coming and it will be a hoot as we’re doing lots of lovely food. My Coronation spring tubs are in full bloom and I have bunting. Charles is ok, I’d be happier if it was William though.

maddiemookins16mum · 02/05/2023 16:22

Nereides · 02/05/2023 16:18

It’s a bit late. It’s been 8 months since the Queen died. She was coronated 4 months after her father died. People have got bored waiting. He’s already been king since last year and people have lost interest.

Anyway, he’s a symbolic head of state at most, because he’s too elderly to be functional. Also the Queen knew he’d be terrible at the job and that’s why she didn’t abdicate earlier. Pretty much nobody likes him nor cares about him. I think most of us are hoping he’ll die young so William can be king.

Surely it was 16 months?

theDudesmummy · 02/05/2023 16:25

The Queen was crowned in June 1953, her father had died in February the previous year.

I think this coronation is obscene and indefensible. I'd abolish the monarchy now, or at least go for a Dutch style one.

MudLady · 02/05/2023 16:26

He only married Diana because she was "suitable". Not because he loved her. She didn't even know until it was too late. He then spent their entire engagement & marriage shagging someone else. And he wasn't even discreet about it. Utterly cruel & callous.

He has basically spent his entire life waiting for his mother to die so he can start his "real job".

He lives in obscene luxury & has no idea how the vast majority manage. Preaching about how we should all go organic, etc, blah blah blah. I do eat some organic food but dear me he's tiresome.

Sleazy.

Tantrummy manchild.

In a time of austerity he / they /the government really should read the room & not spend the GDP of a small country on this outdated display. It merely serves to remind everyone that he was born to wear a crown & live in luxury, & we were not.

As for the pledge of allegiance - or whatever it's called - it should be cut. Could it be any more Pharaohnic? WTF are they thinking, keeping the line in about him living forever?

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