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Will you be swearing allegiance?

329 replies

PolkaDotMankini · 29/04/2023 23:27

BBC link: Public asked to swear allegiance to King Charles

Apparently during the coronation service, we'll all being asked to swear "true allegiance" to Charles and his heirs.

That's a no from me.

The new photos were taken in the Blue Drawing Room at Buckingham Palace

Coronation: Public asked to swear allegiance to King Charles

The pledge is among several changes to the service, which will incorporate female clergy and other faiths.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-65435426

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CathyorClaire · 30/04/2023 11:15

No.

Who thought this utter wankery was a good idea??

WhiskersPete · 30/04/2023 11:23

I would rather shit in my hands & clap.

Ha! This.

Morestrangerthings · 30/04/2023 11:35

CathyorClaire · 30/04/2023 11:15

No.

Who thought this utter wankery was a good idea??

Apparently the Archbishop of Canterbury gets to say some words. The last sentence left me bemused, “May the King live forever.”

https://amp.smh.com.au/world/europe/aussies-invited-to-swear-allegiance-to-new-king-out-loud-20230430-p5d4bj.html

Aussies invited to swear allegiance to new King out loud

https://amp.smh.com.au/world/europe/aussies-invited-to-swear-allegiance-to-new-king-out-loud-20230430-p5d4bj.html

Treaclemine · 30/04/2023 11:48

And the royal family get to be royal because if you trace back their descent as far you can, they are descended on one side from Woden and another from Aphrodite, not even decent pagan deities.

8roses · 30/04/2023 11:48

No

AutumnCrow · 30/04/2023 11:49

May the king live forever
May men be women
May I be a cat

Erm, no.

Lemondrizzlerain · 30/04/2023 11:54

I like the royals n all but this is too backwards.

The Royal Family are feeling more and more culty lately.

Novella4 · 30/04/2023 11:56

It's always been a cult
You are just starting to see through it more

70 years of Elizabeth lulled a lot of people into acceptance

This is some wake up call !

250 million and a pledge of allegiance to Charles ??

LBFseBrom · 30/04/2023 12:01

Surely it only applies to those present at the ceremony (who wouldn't be there, apart from camera and security staff, if they didn't want to be aligned with the King), not the crowds outside or telly watchers?

I find the royal family interesting and fascinating, more so as I have got older, and do very much like some of them. However in no way am I going to swear any allegiance!

ClaraThePigeon · 30/04/2023 12:01

Surely it only applies to those present at the ceremony (who wouldn't be there, apart from camera and security staff, if they didn't want to be aligned with the King), not the crowds outside or telly watchers?

No. They've asked for everyone to join in too.

AutumnCrow · 30/04/2023 12:05

The Archbishop is going to turn to camera 1 and, raising his jazz hands, cry out, 'all together now!'

And afterwards, in true Richard Osman style, he'll intone, 'And well done to everyone at home who said the pointless thing'.

BatshitCrazyWoman · 30/04/2023 12:05

Hard no from me. Get rid of the lot of them. I won't be watching, I'll be doing housework or gardening 😁

Novella4 · 30/04/2023 12:06

We are asked to shout aloud,
where ever we are :

God save King Charles. Long live King Charles. May the King live forever

Yes. Seriously .

If I were a Republican who had infiltrated 'royal' PR this is exactly the sort of shit I'd encourage

Marcipex · 30/04/2023 12:07

Hahaha what utter wankery.

also ‘May the king live forever’ what? Has he been reading the Narnia books? Lol

Lisbeth50 · 30/04/2023 12:15

I think it's something that's usually said at coronations by those in the abbey and the hope is that people watching on TV will join in. Nobody has to or is expected to.

Having said that, I do find it a bizarre idea. I will be watching the coronation but won't be joining in by swearing allegiance. I was amazed when I went to the proclamation and people joined in chanting, "God save the king." I felt like I'd gone back to the middle ages. I never heard anyone say "God save the Queen."

NeverTrustAPoliceman · 30/04/2023 12:17

Supposing you were in, for example, Sainsburys at the time (not sure if shops are shutting that day or not), will it come over the tannoy like when they have a minute's silence? Should we stop pushing our trollies or squeezing the avocados while we declare our allegiance?

Actually can there please be somewhere to register our non allegiance?

YellowAndGreenToBeSeen · 30/04/2023 12:18

Absolutely not. It’s madness and indicates a ridiculous ego. Utterly devoid of reality.

I hope the viewing figures are abysmal - it’s a small way we can indicate how much the monarchy is over.

SerenadeOfTheSchoolRun · 30/04/2023 12:20

I think you are right that this will bring home to people what the Monarchy is supposed to be. We haven’t seen this for 70 years and have accepted the status quo. It is a very religious service with The Eucharist and explicitly says that God is supporting the King to rule over us. If you take it all literally and think logically then it could create republican feeling.

However, I think they is a history, tradition, mystery and spirituality to it that would be such a shame to lose. I will enjoy the spectacle and not take it all literally the same way I do when I am at church.

Inkanta · 30/04/2023 12:24

*We are asked to shout aloud,
where ever we are :

God save King Charles. Long live King Charles. May the King live forever*

😲😲😲

CordyLines · 30/04/2023 12:29

Ill be saying-

NOT MY SUPERIOR, UP YOUR POSTERIOR.

Lemondrizzlerain · 30/04/2023 12:30

All that money they spend on PR and all that time they've spent battling the "misconception" that they're absolutely deluded and brainwashy.

Yet here we are 😂

Chatterboxy · 30/04/2023 12:34

Absolutely not!

carriedout · 30/04/2023 12:34

By asking us to swear allegiance and wish the king would live forever Confused they have made us all more likely to consider/discuss consider how we really feel about the principle of monarchy and this monarch. Not a wise move, the first rule of PR is you control the message, not hand it over to the general public.

WeBuiltThisBuffetOnSausageRoll · 30/04/2023 12:34

Millions chanting "NOT MY KING, NOT MY THING" would be far better imo.

Maybe not (for now, anyway) in people's private homes, but just try doing this in public. Look how disproportionately elderly Walter Wolfgang was dealt with for shouting "Nonsense!" at Jack Straw's speech.

We've already had snapshots of what has happened to peaceful protesters in this 'democratic' countries of ours, when they have made their completely non-violent, non-aggressive, non-hateful anti-monarchy views known.

One of the most distasteful was the group of schoolchildren who were presumably encouraged to chant "He's our king" in response to the "Not my king" protesters. I highly doubt those children understood, or were told, the nuance of what the protesters were chanting; I'm guessing their teachers/adults probably framed it that the 'silly' protesters somehow didn't understand the status quo, rather than that they were expressing disagreement at the forced nature of it.

The cognitive dissonance seems to suggest that we all love the monarchy, apart from one or two oddballs, so they rule by common consent and there's no need to re-evaluate whether we should have one at all; but at the same time, when very large numbers of people make it clear that they DON'T support the monarchy, they get clamped down on straightaway and framed for public order or terrorism offences.

GettingThereCharleyBear · 30/04/2023 12:37

@Littleworkaholic whos cringing now?? 😂

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