Kate's 'resentment' : Princess was denied a final goodbye with the Queen

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"Kate's 'resentment' : Princess was denied a final goodbye with the Queen because she had to stay away from Balmoral to ensure Harry's wife couldn't come, royal author claims"

Kate 'resents' not having final moment to say goodbye to Queen | Daily Mail Online

According to book from Robert Jobson. Charles doesn't come of good in this book....

This ^^

Selective believing of tabloid twaddle. If it's against Meghan, it's true. If it's against Kate - not true.

Can't say I was fussed about not saying goodbye to my grandmother-in-law.

Don't worry about it.

There will be more threads to come from me, and more posts too ...

Just amused to see how they square their hypocrisy on this one 😃

It would have been precisely instructed by higher ups that she wasn't to attend. This was probably not shared with them because relations had already soured plus it was not thought likely that they would be around when the time came, given that they live in California.
Since it happened when they were in the UK for self promotional work, the requirement was communicated at short notice which caused Harry to throw a tantrum.

Are you a Press Secretary or RR? How do you know all this?

You don’t know any of this is true at all, it’s a fantasy you created based on bits from tabloids.

Some people like everyone at the death bed some don’t. In my culture everyone goes.

When my dad was dying he said to us I only want immediate family when it’s going to happen but he was happy to see people in the days leading up to it.

My gran I think there were about 20 + people in the room & house. Same for when my cousin died. It was horrendous.

I know which way I prefer having experienced both sides.

It is a fact that Scobie, their mouthpiece, announced they were both going. It is a fact that the plane with everyone in it was delayed on the tarmac for an hour. It is a fact that Harry flew up on his own later. Given his own account of his conversation with Charles it seems a likely sequence of events that they announced they were going, were told that Meghan was not to come and delayed everyone by arguing.

See it’s that last bit where you take a couple of facts to support your own opinion and conclusion that it was Harry who delayed it and not someone else, because they were arguing. What you think is likely might be quite different from reality. We could equally say that not phoning Harry sooner and ignoring his queries is what caused the delay. The point is, quite a lot of posters take a couple of known facts and twist them and add to them in order to maintain a narrative H & M are to blame for every little thing.

I googled this. Apparently Harry told 60 minutes (whatever that is) that he wasn't allowed on the plane although there was room. This was an interview. I don't have a reason to disbelieve this. Whether or not it was a row about whether Meghan could to too who knows. But its possible. So Harry ended up flying to Scotland on his own.

So whether the plane was delayed because of Harry who knows. But I believe there was an argument and disagreements.

I'm glad that Harry flew up on his own. Can you imagine the increased tension in the plane had he joined the rest of the family. They were taking one of the worst journeys of their lives, and wouldn't have been able to be open with close family for fear of what they said being parroted in a 'docuseries' or book at some point in the future.

Can you imagine the increased tension in the plane had he joined the rest of the family.

Well yes. They’re much more comfortable with Andrew, accused of child sex crimes and happy to be friends with and stay with a known and convicted trafficker ( after imprisonment ). I mean it would be awful if Harry’s presence made anyone uncomfortable, obviously. Peter Ball, Jimmy Saville, Prince Andrew, all fine to be with and defend- to the extent Charles wrote to a judge in support of Ball- but Harry, of course not, he might repeat things. So much more awful than abusing children.

Not gossip. Not even an opinion, as I don't know what was said and nor does anyone else on this thread.

It is speculation. Based on what has been said by the people involved.

Harry has said in print that he had a conversation with Charles, and Charles was 'disrespectful' about Meghan. As he didn't confide the details of the conversation it could have been an expletive-riddled rant about her, or saying that she wasn't welcome due to the hurt the family felt over the OW interview.

The first would be disrespectful, the second would be a simple statement of fact that Harry didn't want to hear. I can imagine a range of other options, but that's irrelevant. The point being, Harry saying that Charles was disrespectful to Meghan in that conversation doesn't make it necessarily true. Or untrue.

But Harry seems to see it as a competition between Meghan and Kate, if he was happy with Meghan not going as long as Kate wasn't going.

It is speculation

Gossip.

Well, this entire thread is gossip! And?

Gossip you're taking part in 😂

No I’m pushing back against it. I’m not actually engaging in your gossip. I’m disputing it. I know you hate that. Too bad.

If I told you all that my next door neighbour is a cat murdering obsessive who DELIBERATELY allows his lawn to grow dandelions which then spread to my lawn would you say it must be true, unless my neighbour denies it?

Or would you say, hmmm, it might be true, but there might be another way of looking at the situation?

No hate 😘

BTW no cats or dandelions have been harmed by my neighbour, to the best of my knowledge 😂

You know I’ve said already that was Harry’s version which you can choose to believe or not believe right? The point was, there is no other version out there and all you and other posters are doing is creating versions out of fantasy. Because it suits a narrative you are intent on pushing. It is all based on what tabloid media have printed. Gossip. If you chose gossip over Harry’s version, that’s your choice.

Well, I certainly don't think everything Harry says (or writes) is the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth.

Nobody does, we all see things from our own viewpoint. Let alone any prejudices, ulterior motives, wish to present ourselves in the best possible light etc.

Do you accept everything Harry says or writes uncritically, on the basis that anything else would be 'gossip'?

How odd. Do you apply that to everyone? Or just Harry?

Your cat murdering neighbour example @mixedrecycling proves the fact that nothing you say can be taken on trust. Anyone can say anything.

I could also say that Charles berated Harry, blew his top, called Meghan "an American bitch who does not know her place".

That would all be speculation, as much as it is speculation for you to say what you did.

The only person who has gone on the record to say what happened is Harry. Until others do the same, all we have is speculation, which, yes, is ultimately a longer word for gossip.

@MrsMaxDeWinter yup!