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The Royals are on the Brink of Collapse - SHOCKING REPORT !

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vera99 · 16/04/2023 20:36

As the late Queen said 'apres moi le deluge' and here we are 3 weeks away from a coronation in which only 9% of the population are highly interested.

The Royals are on the Brink of Collapse - SHOCKING REPORT !
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notsayingmuch · 17/04/2023 08:06

Prescottdanni123 · 17/04/2023 08:03

Members of the royal family should be told that they either be working royals and do public engagements etc or get a job and fund themselves. No being funded by the British public to sit around on their arses doing naff all.

Have you just woken from a long sleep? That is exactly what has been said to Harry and why he has thrown his toys out of the pram!

Roussette · 17/04/2023 08:16

notsayingmuch · 17/04/2023 08:06

Have you just woken from a long sleep? That is exactly what has been said to Harry and why he has thrown his toys out of the pram!

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Hardly. He is funding himself and has been for over three years now.

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vera99 · 17/04/2023 08:18

The Archbishop of Canterbury should have put his foot down about crowning /anointing Camilla and sure there are reasons that he could have plausibly given and to which the Palace would have had to accept. I'm a fan of the C&E as a broad church populated with good people, but they have got it very wrong here.

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modgepodge · 17/04/2023 08:27

Roussette · 16/04/2023 22:18

Another pp on a different thread said Liz should have handed over to Charles much sooner.

That was me. I have said this for years. She should have handed over the monarchy in her 70s like Queen Beatrix of Netherlands did and her mother did to her. She did so for the right reasons with a very moving message about keeping the monarchy young and alive

We are now stuck with something set 70 years ago and no idea or will to change it, outdated and set in the past, an antiquated version of what we could have had

I think we will just be stuck with old kings for the foreseeable future (our lifetimes). Most people live til their 70s/80s, particularly wealthy people. If Charles lives as long as his mother then William will be in his 60s before he ascends. It’s fairly ridiculous to have the top job in the institution constantly held by people who’d have retired from any other job!!

I agree it would make far more sense to be monarch until a certain age (70?) then pass it on to next in line. But Charles has been waiting with bated breath his entire life from what I understand (admittedly from watching the crown) and is h likely to want to give it up!!

ShagratandGorbag4ever · 17/04/2023 08:30

Who are these nine per cent who have nothing better to think about?

BananaBlue · 17/04/2023 08:30

I’m struggling to understand how the ‘engagements’ (esp charity) benefits the country?

Take K&W - advocates for early years and mental health support.

Yet both sectors are fucked.

In an ideal world they’d be going through their boss to ask the PM wtf is going on with say CAHMS and recommendations as to how it can be functional.

I found the cheerful foodbank visits totally distasteful as well, our representatives should have been horrified/angry that such places existed, but hey Ho.

Final point - that day rate calculation, I’m not sure they are putting in 7.5hrs of engagements PD. Some of those visits are 20mins to 1hr. Also saw yesterday that a 20min phone call can be classed as an engagement…

ArseInTheCoOpWindow · 17/04/2023 08:34

Most people I know who might not be huge fans of the RF will be watching because for most of us it's the first in our lifetime

Well l won’t be bloody watching it. Neither will anyone l know. I’ll be using the bank holiday to do something fun while the masses ( actually not sure there will be masses) are spending a spring day indoors wasting their time. Hopefully it means everywhere will be less crowded.

modgepodge · 17/04/2023 08:35

I think the whole Camilla thing is complicated. Diana was treated despicably by Charles and of course what happened to her (and as a result her young sons) was very sad. But, he always wanted to marry Camilla and was pushed in to marrying Diana. If he’d been allowed to marry who he wanted in the first place none of this would have happened. History repeats itself here, as Margaret was also not allowed to marry her choice of partner (which didn’t end well), and of course, the whole reason Elizabeth ended up on the throne was due to an obsession with who married who.

Foreversearch · 17/04/2023 08:37

It’s interesting some posters think that members of the RF just turn up to Royal engagements and that is the sole effort they put in.

Personally I believe they will spend time preparing for each visit so they are well briefed. Major events will be rehearsed e.g. Prince William does the practice Trooping the Colour. Given the number of people they meet officially they can’t remember everyone yet they always seem to remember them and to be remarkably well informed of the business/charity/history etc. They must spend time reading background information and writing/refining/practicing speeches etc. There is also the travel time for official visits that are not included in the engagements. Charles and William will also have their red boxes to read, as well as inputting to the running of their respective Duchies. Plus there is the behind the scenes stuff for their Charities and the visits that aren’t publicised, along with writing letters to bereaved families etc.

I am not naive enough to believe they put in all the hours god sends but neither do I believe opening hospitals etc. is all they do. I expect the reality lies somewhere in between.

gogohmm · 17/04/2023 08:42

Most people are vaguely interested in the coronation but overall indifferent to the monarchy. So we would tick "somewhat interested" rather than highly. We have sold 75 tickets to a viewing of the coronation and lunch in just a few days, seems people are wanting to watch as a group

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vera99 · 17/04/2023 08:45

During covid they took the piss - Whitehall and government were working their arses off (whatever we think about parties, Boris etc - they were, 16-hour days 7 days a week) whereas they luxuriated in their huge palaces with the occasional Zoom call working from home as it were. But they still got the same money.

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Dracuuule · 17/04/2023 09:18

The main point of the monarchy is to be head of state and the benefit of that was to keep all the politicians grounded.
How can you have any faith of the monarchy when they're just hypocritical, leaking petty stories, preaching, dysfunctional and have paedophiles in their inner circle.
I know only one person who is interested in this coronation.

Sudeko · 17/04/2023 09:30

I would say that most people want the day off. But with the pandemic and all that working from home, the value of an extra bank holiday has diminished. The Royals have misjudged this badly.
They are trying hard. Camilla has never looked better (they have been working on it). But is she a credible act to follow after the previous queen. 100% no way.
There are cuts made here and there to show that they are aware of the public mood but it is just not desirable or interesting and we are all 'royalled out' from too many royal events compressed together in the timeline recently.

CathyorClaire · 17/04/2023 09:46

Princess Anne should be allowed to decide whether or not she works on her birthday.

Well millions don't get that privilege due to the nature of the work they're doing but the more pertinent question is why is it even noted in the CC when a very quick search reveals so very many days free of any engagements for the whole lot.

MarshaBradyo · 17/04/2023 09:48

Topseyt123 · 17/04/2023 00:48

Who the fuck sets any store at all by a Daily Express article? They talk such bollocks.

This is the surprising part

Roussette · 17/04/2023 09:58

Sudeko · 17/04/2023 09:30

I would say that most people want the day off. But with the pandemic and all that working from home, the value of an extra bank holiday has diminished. The Royals have misjudged this badly.
They are trying hard. Camilla has never looked better (they have been working on it). But is she a credible act to follow after the previous queen. 100% no way.
There are cuts made here and there to show that they are aware of the public mood but it is just not desirable or interesting and we are all 'royalled out' from too many royal events compressed together in the timeline recently.

That's a great post, so agree.

I know I'm old and time passes faster but it seems like yesterday I was watching some Jubilee or another. It just seems endless, all this money spent on bigging up the RF with stupid concerts, fly bys red arrows, crowds of flag wavers and such like.

And it's just words as far as slimming down, Andrew being chucked out of a Royal Estate, thinking of the people and cost of living... empty words. Until I see action I believe nothing.

sashh · 17/04/2023 10:08

purpledalmation · 16/04/2023 21:19

I suppose we'll have to wait to see if the coronation has plenty of people watching the parades and what the Uk viewing figures are to get an idea of the truth. Not to mention worldwide.

I have a group of friends flying in from the US just for the coronation, so I'll be meeting up with them later in the week.

We'll see.

Viewing figures are not necessarily about royalists tuning in. I have not decided whether to watch or not. I'm torn between thinking they are well past their time and seeing it as a bit of history.

I was visiting my dad when the queen died, because he was watching it I saw more than I would normally have done and some was quite interesting.

Bluebells1970 · 17/04/2023 10:08

I blame Andrew and Harry for most of this.

They've behaved awfully and yet faced little consequence for doing so. I think Charles already had a real battle on his hands to maintain the popularity/goodwill that his Mother had, and leaving these two to carry on living in multi million £/$ homes whilst handing out Prince and Princess titles to 2 kids who don't even live in the UK was a really really bad move on his part.

Foreversearch · 17/04/2023 10:20

CathyorClaire · 17/04/2023 09:46

Princess Anne should be allowed to decide whether or not she works on her birthday.

Well millions don't get that privilege due to the nature of the work they're doing but the more pertinent question is why is it even noted in the CC when a very quick search reveals so very many days free of any engagements for the whole lot.

@CathyorClaire a very selective quote given I stated that I have worked full time for 40 years and never worked on my birthday.

The court circular announces all royal birthdays not just Princess Anne’s.

ChristmasRoses · 17/04/2023 10:24

Queen Camilla is a step too far for me. I find those two stomach turning and I won't be watching. I did love The Queen though.

Roussette · 17/04/2023 10:25

Bluebells1970 · 17/04/2023 10:08

I blame Andrew and Harry for most of this.

They've behaved awfully and yet faced little consequence for doing so. I think Charles already had a real battle on his hands to maintain the popularity/goodwill that his Mother had, and leaving these two to carry on living in multi million £/$ homes whilst handing out Prince and Princess titles to 2 kids who don't even live in the UK was a really really bad move on his part.

Ummm... Harry left three years ago in case you hadn't noticed 😮

BellatrixLestrangesHeatedCurlers · 17/04/2023 11:06

Bluebells1970 · 17/04/2023 10:08

I blame Andrew and Harry for most of this.

They've behaved awfully and yet faced little consequence for doing so. I think Charles already had a real battle on his hands to maintain the popularity/goodwill that his Mother had, and leaving these two to carry on living in multi million £/$ homes whilst handing out Prince and Princess titles to 2 kids who don't even live in the UK was a really really bad move on his part.

Which crime(s) is Harry alleged to have committed?

BMW6 · 17/04/2023 11:11

vera99 · 17/04/2023 08:01

You haven't read the article that YOU posted have you!!

It explains why ALL Queen Consorts were crowned and anointed (Camilla is being treated exactly the same) and why Consorts of a Regnal Queen never are. (Prince Albert for example)

Crowning Camilla is not a special request by Charles. It is traditional.

Why are you making out otherwise?

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vera99 · 17/04/2023 11:22

Well its all made up and Charles has chosen to trim numbers and ban ermine and coronets. The decision to anoint and crown Camilla in the modern age is not only sexist if the PP example is taken into account it also doesn't look good for a divorced woman who intruded on the previous marriage to get the same royal treatment. Charles has done himself no favours by taking this approach nor letting the full cost of the occasion fall upon the state.

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Novella4 · 17/04/2023 11:47

@vera98
Exactly- it's all made up nonsense

And as usual with the Windsors it's pick and choose what they want for themselves ans to hell with the serfs

So it's traditional ( completely sexist but who is surprised by that ) that a married in wife is crowned but married in husband isn't - because men are superior and hence 'elevate ' the woman . But a lowly woman ( Lizzie) is inferior so can't - that's why Philip wasn't called king

Right , so the hard line royalists swallow that line and argue its 'traditional '. So Camilla will be anointed with holy oil to help Charles in his role as head of the Church of England ( gid help it ) and she will be crowned with all pomp and ceremony

But then Charles cuts out the 'traditional ' robes and the swearing allegiance and kneeling and promising to fight for the king rigmarole and that's all fine because he's 'modernising '( lol!)

Well when I say accepted - it's this 9% rump who probably didn't understand the question

Tv viewing figures are pretty meaningless . How many tvs on in care homes and businesses and no one watching ?

They already know the interest is lower based on the cutting short of the route and the building of stands to improve the look of the crowd