The Royals are on the Brink of Collapse - SHOCKING REPORT !

[vera99]

As the late Queen said 'apres moi le deluge' and here we are 3 weeks away from a coronation in which only 9% of the population are highly interested.

The better the devil you know always strikes me as a sad belief that shows a total lack of ambition for anything better. It is the viewpoint that would have meant no industrialisation, computers, supermarkets, planes, democracy, etc etc.
We would still all be living under the feudal system of a master with better the devil you know attitude.
Incredibly depressing.
I have ambition for something better.

@AskMeMore

Well said

My grandmothers used to argue better the devil you know. She also wanted no change at all and for everything to stay exactly the same.

If you go down that route a) you have a bun fight of what is personal wealth and what is private b) you cannot complain when they use legitimate tax avoidance measures such as off shore trusts.

The Duke of Westminster is a good example https://amp.theguardian.com/money/2016/aug/11/inheritance-tax-why-the-new-duke-of-westminster-will-not-pay-billions

Believe it or not I know it to be true ! A charitable interpretation is that the Queen and others like privacy in what is a hugely-staffed building that is both a home and a state institution. Not having to nod and say hello to everybody and do all the requisite bowing etc could be avoided by clearing the corridors of staff before their entry.

*you cannot complain when they use legitimate tax avoidance measures such as off shore trusts"

They do that anyway as evidenced in the Paradise papers.

A lack of ambition😂
Brexit was ambitious, I think that says enough!

I'm happy to pass the 'ambition' baton to the next generation.

The supposed catastrophe of abolishing a hereditary monarchy is disingenuous particularly so as they are supposed to have no power. Any costs could be mitigated as business as usual until we need to replace stamps/money and the like. We could even skip a President and do away with the role altogether, the PM being head of state by default, and of course it's nothing like Brexit as that involved unbundling many thousands of interwoven business and societal constructs built up over decades at huge cost. Somehow I don't think we will miss William visiting an ad hoc occasional foodbank and if they do really care William Windsor will be free to use his considerable celebrity for any causes he wishes to.

@StormzyinaTCup Brexit was a cynical move by Cameron to cement his position as Prime Minister from the bampots. The conservatives who understood economics did not understand how disaffected so many people were and that would vote for it.
Brexit had zero to do with ambition.

Abolishing the monarchy need not be a catastrophe in and of itself but it would most certainly be an upheaval when currently as a country we are dealing with:

Brexit
Covid
Cost of living crises

The above are not quick fixes so until we come out of the other side of that little lot then as far as I'm concerned it's not the time to add in any more upheaval and I'd wager there is no appetite for another divisive referendum.

You would also need to have a political party willing to push it through and I don't think that is going to happen.

How would you even go about it, would you be including all the other 14 Commonwealth realms in this referendum? What if some want to keep the monarchy and others don't? What would be the costs just to run that vote and who would bear the cost?

There would be a long way to go before you got down to stamps and coins.

I want to see what the Queen and PP's wills say! Come on, if you've nothing to hide, you've nothing to fear. The secrecy is outrageous given that a huge chunk of their wealth comes from us, our land and foreshore. Not to mention the ill gotten diamonds and so on.

Anyway the popularity of the RF will rest on the current kids. When they grow up they will not be the slightest bit interested in crowns and sceptres and all the mullarkey that has a slightly older crew oohing and aaahing. And that's the reality.

😂😂😂

But what would we really be missing if we abolished them?
Kate and William going to Wimbledon and film premiers?
Charles and Camilla visiting a foodbank or local charity?
A state dinner or two for the great and the good?
A few afternoon tea parties?

Prime Ministers have access to Chequers to host the great and good where necessary.

Lets not pretend it would have any impact.

@AskMeMore and @vera99

You are both right of course

'Royals' try to have it both ways about everything!

They have no power .
No one will miss them

Even the queen - there for 70years and hardly a word about her now and all went on as normal

They do nothing they make no difference

The ceremonial role such as opening of Parliament can be changed, or someone appointed much like Town Criers and a few other jobs do ceremonial roles.

Charles is probably throwing a few pens against the wall wailing "why are my subjects not interested in the Con a Nation my dearest Camilla, it is not fair and look at all I have done for them as their King, we must do something..."

Whether you like it or not the British Royals do hold a fascination around the world you only have to look at the foreign press and tv stations.

They have no power they certainly have soft power and as you are a republican if they hold no actual power you should think that this is a good thing surely, not raising it as a thing that is bad.

No one will miss them life would be far duller without all the royal shenanigans, the gossip, the pomp and pageantry, the parades, the fashion, the history, I love it all! Sorry but a town cryer oyaing all over the shop won’t impress anyone. I think if you put that forward @AskMeMore you will be hit with tumbleweed, imagine the ballot papers! a town cryer or William, Kate and the children, back to the drawing board.

The Kardishans attract a lot of press interest. So what. I do not want to pay for them either.

It’s actually horrifying how ignorant people are about how our constitutional monarchy is embedded in the entirety of our society. Parliament, the church, the judiciary, the armed forces are all founded on the monarchy. Attempting to unravel all of that would make Brexit look like a walk in the park. Regardless of whether you approve of or respect the people, the institution has provided stability for hundreds of years.

@Blossomtoes I thought you said they had no real power and their role is purely ceremonial?

I think that the government has far bigger fish to fry.

Like people who cannot manage to type Coronation. And believe the Express.

And cannot being themselves to use an M and substitute it with an F.

And take as gospel these type of books over reality.

I wish that kind of outlook would Muck Omm.

Try reading what I wrote about the monarchy again. And find where power is mentioned.

I heard or read somewhere that it would take ten years to unravel the Monarchy.

The majority of under 25s expect it to be gone in 25 years. I imagine I will be pushing up daisies by then!

Ten years? And the rest. We’re seven years in and have barely scratched the surface of Brexit.

Ah you mean the ceremonial roles. They do not need to happen, Just pass one law removing all ceremonial roles forthwith.
What would time is the royal family arguing that all the properties and jewellery they currently say belong to the state, will suddenly belong to them.