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Even as a child Harry was racist

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MamoruHisaishi · 07/04/2023 21:16

How many times can Harry be excused as having unconscious bias? He was already making fun of people’s accents even as a child.

According to a new book that's coming out from Robert Jobson:

When he was a little boy, around eight years old, his mother took him and William for a ride on a London bus as a treat, arranged by her police protection officer Inspector Ken Wharfe.

On the bus, Diana had to tell Harry to stop mimicking the Sikh bus conductor’s pronounced Punjabi accent every time a passenger pressed the bell to get off. The conductor, a jovial chap wearing a bright yellow turban, was relaxed about Harry’s casual racism, but Diana was so mortified that she eventually told Ken Wharfe to abandon the trip.

Diana, Ken, William and Harry all got off at Green Park and Diana immediately smacked Harry and told him: ‘Don’t you ever do that again.’

Afterwards, she made Harry write to Inspector Wharfe to apologise for his behaviour and for spoiling the day he’d arranged for the boys.
I have spoken to Wharfe, who confirms the incident, and I have also seen the letter, still in his possession, in which Harry jokes about the phrase he used.

As he was a child at the time, he can probably be forgiven — but the incident demonstrates that on one issue at least, Diana was in complete agreement with Charles. She would not tolerate any form of racism from their two sons.

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MrsMaxDeWinter · 08/04/2023 14:11

Whaeanui · 08/04/2023 14:10

Prince Philip’s slitty-eyed comment was a retort to the Chinese saying to their dc “if you stay in the West you will get round eyes”.

What?

😂😂😂

notanotheroneagain · 08/04/2023 14:19

Fluffypuppy1 · 08/04/2023 12:27

Prince Philip’s slitty-eyed comment was a retort to the Chinese saying to their dc “if you stay in the West you will get round eyes”.

For real ?

Well, I have never heard this part.

flutterbyebaby · 08/04/2023 14:23

I think bashing a child utterly abhorrent.

queentim · 08/04/2023 14:38

MrsMaxDeWinter · 08/04/2023 09:33

Sure, you can have your millions and millions back.

Just as long as you also pay back the billions that were extracted from the Asian and African colonies over decades and decades, and contributed to the UK economy.

So you paid your taxes. Bully for you. Countless others paid with their actual lives.

Exactly.

purpledalmation · 08/04/2023 20:03

@MrsMaxDeWinter Don't be ridiculous. The diamonds are being demanded back now, in the 21st century. The money donated by my taxes are being donated in the 21st century. What went on 1, 2 or 300 years ago is irrelevant. India is a rich country now with good education for most and a reasonable standard of living. We can't turn back the clock. We can't change history. People today cannot (and I personally will not) be responsible for the ills of earlier centuries. If that's the case the bloody Romans can pay us back for stripping out natural resources and making slaves of the Britons.

Roussette · 08/04/2023 20:16

Good grief purple have you actually been to India? They are a rich population with a very very poor population. The gap between the rich and the poor is beyond enormous.

We might think the UK have a huge gap between rich and poor but it bears no resemblance to India. I can't believe you are saying this.

There is starvation, unemployment and the caste system which is still very prevelant.

purpledalmation · 08/04/2023 23:15

Roussette · 08/04/2023 20:16

Good grief purple have you actually been to India? They are a rich population with a very very poor population. The gap between the rich and the poor is beyond enormous.

We might think the UK have a huge gap between rich and poor but it bears no resemblance to India. I can't believe you are saying this.

There is starvation, unemployment and the caste system which is still very prevelant.

Well that's their governmental system. Nothing to do with me.

MamoruHisaishi · 08/04/2023 23:20

MrsMaxDeWinter · 08/04/2023 08:43

Well, @MamoruHisaishi you say:

As a person of colour from a commonwealth country who still has the royal family as the head of the country

I don't mean to question your bona fides, and you may just be too offended at something that happened when Harry was a child to post coherently, but a few pointers:

Firstly, it's Commonwealth, not commonwealth with a small c because "a commonwealth" with a small c means something different from the Commonwealth with a large C.

Secondly, we talk of Head of State, not head of the country. This is because there is a different between a country and a state. (Wales and Scotland for instance are considered countries but they are part of the state called the UK) Interestingly, there is also a difference between a nation and a country because while most nations have countries, not all nations have countries: the Zulu nation, for instance, is a nation without a country that exists within the state of South Africa. One could also say the long-suffering people of Palestine are a nation without either a country or a state that is recognised by all states.

Finally, it's not the entire Royal Family that is Head of State, as you state, it is just one person, the monarch. So Harry is not Head of State, nor for that matter is anyone other than Charles.

But even accepting that you are too offended to post coherently, as a fellow person of colour from a Commonwealth country (one made up of several nations incidentally, but that's colonialism for you!) that still has a member of the royal family as the Head of State, I can state with absolute certainty that what Harry supposedly did as a child aged 8 is not something that will register with most people.

In fact, just this morning, I held a poll in my Commonwealth country and 100% of the people who responded think that your post is silly and ridiculous, and your outrage is manufactured.

My poll indicates further that people are much more interested in the welcome news that Charles is willing to support an investigation into slavery and its links to the Royal Family.

My poll also indicates that centuries of slavery followed by colonialism have had a far bigger impact on Commonwealth countries, states and nations than Harry mimicking an accent on a bus in London at the age of 8, and getting smacked by his mother for it.

I look forward to he next bashing thread: Hint: keep an eye on the Daily Mail. There is a daily menu to choose from.

Thanks for the insults, I truly am concerned at how bothered you are because I expressed my dislike for Harry. All because I stated that I feel offended that harry is now claiming to be fighting against racism, and made a thread on a book excerpt that showed he was already acting racist even as a child? But nevertheless I'm sincerely sorry for not having the correct grammar and language when I created my posts. I didn't realise it was a requirement here. Here you go: Commonwealth with a capital C, head of state instead of head of country. Also, I did a poll in my own country and 100 % of the people found it hilarious that you're offended on behalf of a racist prince, all because i shared a book excerpt of harry being racist as a kid. Feeling offended by Harry doesn't negate that there are bigger fish to fry when it comes to racism so to speak. So not sure why you're so outraged by my post? Would it bother you if I said the same of prince Andrew, princess Michael or lady hussey? Or what about if I stated I felt the same about mel Gibson or Michael Richards? They're all public figures who have said racist things like harry. Would you tell me there's bigger things I should focus on instead of their racist remarks?

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NaturalBae · 08/04/2023 23:51

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TooBigForMyBoots · 09/04/2023 02:20

You did a poll on a Mnetter's opinion?🤯

TooBigForMyBoots · 09/04/2023 02:25

What was the wording?
How many people voted?

Lampzade · 09/04/2023 03:09

Op you really need to get a life.
This thread is just so stupid.
Go outside and touch grass ffs

MrsMaxDeWinter · 09/04/2023 08:21

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purpledalmation · 09/04/2023 08:44

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That's a disgracefully intrusive question. No one should be judged or put into a neat little box based on their country of origin. Everyone's opinion is valid and debate is universal.

Roussette · 09/04/2023 08:46

purpledalmation · 08/04/2023 23:15

Well that's their governmental system. Nothing to do with me.

Nothing to do with you? Gosh. Perhaps don't make sweeping statements like India is a rich country with good education and standards of living, then?
It's the second most unequal country in the world.

Roussette · 09/04/2023 08:47

@MrsMaxDeWinter

Well said. This thread is ridiculous. And knocking a child.

MrsMaxDeWinter · 09/04/2023 08:50

Oh wait. @MamoruHisaishi

Apologies. I missed the full implications of your comparison of Michael Richards and Mel Gibson to 8 year old Harry.

Michael Richards calling African-American members of his audience the N word, repeatedly, in public, is as bad as an 8 years old Harry mimicking an accent and getting told of for it, Actually, now you mention it, what Harry did is far worse.

You are also drawing equivalence between Harry mimicking a Punjabi accent at the age of 8 and Mel Gibson saying the following to his girlfriend: "You go out in public and it's a fing embarrassment to me. You look like a fing b on heat and if you get raped by a pack of n** it will be your fault."

You are so right, Harry is far worse than Mel and Michael. It's a pity you can't travel back in time to invent social media and give him the trending hashtag pasting that he richly deserved then, maybe even get him expelled from school, and cancelled from all future jobs, but cheer up, there is always retroactive outrage!!

Whaeanui · 09/04/2023 09:06

I’ll highlight another quote from Prince Philip, a fully fledged adult when he made it and an example of the racism that surrounded this child at the time, while of course knowing the OP will continue to ignore it while they blame the child:

It looks as if it was put in by an Indian” (referring to an old-fashioned fuse box in a factory near Edinburgh).

Whaeanui · 09/04/2023 09:07

Honestly a little surprised Mumsnet allow this kind of post targeting someone as a child on a parenting forum.

x2boys · 09/04/2023 09:19

Whaeanui · 09/04/2023 09:07

Honestly a little surprised Mumsnet allow this kind of post targeting someone as a child on a parenting forum.

It's Harry and Meghan,anything goes apparently ,there's another thread right now ripping apart Meghan,s looks
posters are so consumed by their hatred it seems ,bizarre .

rattymol · 09/04/2023 10:14

Don't you know Philips open racism was just amusing gaffes. While Harry's racism as a child is a sign he is evil.

Whaeanui · 09/04/2023 10:18

Don't you know Philips open racism was just amusing gaffes. While Harry's racism as a child is a sign he is evil.

Yup that seems to be some peoples take on it.

jeffgoldblum · 09/04/2023 10:22

You are not a person of colour. You are blackfishing, which a lot of Harry and Meghan's white female critics do on social media. It's clear from the way you use language around race and the way you approach racial issues: you are offended by racism only when you can say Harry is the racist. You are using the name of a Japanese pianist, which, to those who don't know his work, makes you sound colourful and exotic -- I was amused to see a poster on another thread say your username was beautiful, did it mean anything in your language, and of course you didn't answer

You may both disagree, but this is a dreadful accusation to make to another poster!
And I suspect goes into personal attack and troll hunting territory!

jeffgoldblum · 09/04/2023 10:24

@MamoruHisaishi , I think this thread is a step too far, what Harry did as a child isn't relevant to what he does today.

derxa · 09/04/2023 10:26

Harry at eight was not being racist but he was clearly being quite nasty. Diana quite rightly pulled him up on it