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vera99 · 2023-03-27T08:58:40+00:00

I'm sure we will all wish him well fighting the good fight against the Fail ! [[https://twitter.com/elliecostelloTV/status/1640274470395838465 https://twitter.com/elliecostelloTV/status/1640274470395838465]]

PastaLaVistaBabee · 29/03/2023 14:02

Ishouldbeoutside · 29/03/2023 14:00

Harry has a few lines of thought beyond which he seems unable to move. He’s absolutely fixated on these things . It would be nice if he gave up ranting and raving and playing the victim. He is a very fortunate man.

Absolutely

PreparationPreparationPrep · 29/03/2023 14:03

Ishouldbeoutside · 29/03/2023 14:00

Harry has a few lines of thought beyond which he seems unable to move. He’s absolutely fixated on these things . It would be nice if he gave up ranting and raving and playing the victim. He is a very fortunate man.

So do you mean he should remove himself from this case alongside others?

Whaeanui · 29/03/2023 14:04

@MamoruHisaishi once again you keep saying with reference to this case he’s saying family, he’s saying institution. In terms of emotive language, that is normal for a case like this to show the affect on a persons life. Why wouldn’t he include his wife? Why shouldn’t he mention her? How ridiculous. Have you read the other claimants statements? They’re the same, very emotional and very troubling the impact on them, and their families. Why don’t you wait to see if it goes to trial, a lot of your questions would be answered at trial, a trial the ANL are trying to stop.

MamoruHisaishi · 29/03/2023 14:04

PreparationPreparationPrep · 29/03/2023 13:54

Yes he is a controversial figure so the media would have got wind that he is around anyway. In effect if he had gone through the side door he would have been ridiculed for that and still
Ended up on the front pages. So really he should go through whichever doors he wants.

How would you know he would have been ridiculed? It would actually make more sense if he didn't draw attention to himself because he claims his life is at risk in the UK, but to stride right to where the media was, fully exposing himself to the flashing lights of the cameras (despite claiming that he feels traumatized by those same flashing lights), to draw attention to himself when the other claimants went through the side door, it just makes it seem like it's some sort of publicity stunt and makes him out to be a liar. And yes, because of what he did, he has become the public face of this case instead of the other claimants.

PlanetLuna · 29/03/2023 14:06

Whaeanui · 29/03/2023 13:23

never meeting his father-in-law or allowing him to meet his grandchildren, outing his first sexual experience in a book with no heads up to her - knowing the person would be identifiable, dissing his family (including his own brother and father) to the world, talking about killing 25 Taliban, laughing at a disabled school matron, polluting the environment by flying to the UK when a video call would have sufficed, living in massive multi-million pound mansion when people all over the world are starving and homeless ... the list goes on.

I don’t think not meeting your father in law is unethical at all, that is a ridiculous thing to compare to tabloids writing lies and obtaining medical information about you.
allowing him to meet your children: he’s Meghans father, it’s her choice and plenty of people go NC with family for very good reasons, to protect themselves and their family. After Thomas’ behaviour I don’t blame them. It’s not unethical at all. I consider Thomas going to media and threatening to keep doing it until he meets his grandson to be disgraceful. My father would never do that no matter what I did.
he didn’t name his first sexual partner, he’s entitled to talk about it, it’s also his experience, he told every story he knew they had on him so they couldn’t.
it’s not unethical to ‘diss’ your family, plenty of people do it, including Charles. They’ve been dissing him and his wife well before he wrote the book or talked to Oprah, they just got their staff to do it.
not unethical to talk about war, kill counts used to be put on the side of planes, it’s the reality of war
again the matron story was honest and unpleasant but he wasn’t writing it with pride, if you read the whole passage you understand that. Again if he withheld any story it would only be printed in the tabloids.
polluting the environment 😂😂😂 what a ridiculous claim. I can’t be bothered with that one.
living in a mansion is unethical? Comparable to phone hacking? Ok sure 🤦🏾‍♀️

I’m sure your list goes on, and I’m sure if we dissected your life and what you did from the age of 13 to 40 we’d find lots and lots of behaviour you are pretending to state is unethical instead of human failings we all have. I went to boarding school, it was horrendous and the matrons were mean, we called one of them ‘beetle’ to her face, because she was so large her legs made beetle sounds as she walked. I know as an adult that’s horrible, but I was a deeply unhappy lonely child away from home, we all were, and the matrons were no comfort.

@Whaeanui
Great comment, thank you. 😇

I wouldn’t have known where to begin in response to such regurgitated tabloid rubbish.😏 You did an excellent job.

jeffgoldblum · 29/03/2023 14:07

@MamoruHisaishi , would it be rude of me to ask about your username?
It's lovely but I'm sure it has a more profound meaning, and also I agree with all your posts! .

Whaeanui · 29/03/2023 14:08

It would actually make more sense if he didn't draw attention to himself. Are you fucking serious? When Meghan does that articles are published and a big long thread is started here, ‘where is Meghan?’. Drones fly over their home. They found press in the garden. I mean for gods sake. The idea he draws attention and everyone would leave them alone otherwise is demonstrably false! They were seen nowhere for almost a year and there were never more stories and articles written.

MrsMaxDeWinter · 29/03/2023 14:10

Is it really possible that the posters screeching about why Harry came to court are unable to see that this was part of a coordinated campaign by the litigants?

None of them needed to be in court, not Sadie Frost , not Elton John, not Doreen Lawrence, not David Furnish....

They came en masse to attract attention to the court case.

Are posters just too unimaginative, too thick or too malicious not to see the obvious advantage of some of the litigants turning up in person?

Roussette · 29/03/2023 14:10

MamoruHisaishi · 29/03/2023 14:04

How would you know he would have been ridiculed? It would actually make more sense if he didn't draw attention to himself because he claims his life is at risk in the UK, but to stride right to where the media was, fully exposing himself to the flashing lights of the cameras (despite claiming that he feels traumatized by those same flashing lights), to draw attention to himself when the other claimants went through the side door, it just makes it seem like it's some sort of publicity stunt and makes him out to be a liar. And yes, because of what he did, he has become the public face of this case instead of the other claimants.

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No. Elton John went in a side door and footage of him was actually longer. It would've made no difference whatsoever

MamoruHisaishi · 29/03/2023 14:12

Whaeanui · 29/03/2023 14:04

@MamoruHisaishi once again you keep saying with reference to this case he’s saying family, he’s saying institution. In terms of emotive language, that is normal for a case like this to show the affect on a persons life. Why wouldn’t he include his wife? Why shouldn’t he mention her? How ridiculous. Have you read the other claimants statements? They’re the same, very emotional and very troubling the impact on them, and their families. Why don’t you wait to see if it goes to trial, a lot of your questions would be answered at trial, a trial the ANL are trying to stop.

The family is entwined with the institution. The people who work for the royal family are people they hired to work for them, most of whom I've read are actually underpaid. If the institution aka the people who work for the royal family are so powerful and are in control of Harry’s family, why was the bullying report suppressed? Why was there a report highlighting concern that nothing was being done to address workers’ complaints against Meghan and Harry? Why was King Charles and Prince Andrew able to get rid of one of the Queen’s most trusted advisors? And if the courtiers are controlling the royal family against their will, then they can leave any time they want but prince Harry chooses to cling to his titles and have chosen for his children to be associated to the very institution he complains about. Why would he do that if he views them as toxic and controlling? Even your explanation doesn't make sense in light of Harry’s own behaviour.

Whaeanui · 29/03/2023 14:13

@PastaLaVistaBabee If I was a public figure I would see it as my responsibility to apologise and hold myself to account.
Apologise to who? Hold his younger self accountable? What about all of those that contributed to the misery that led him to taking drugs?

He takes marijuana, which is legal and now has a lot of research to suggest it’s medicinal benefits. If you drink, you have no reason to judge anyone taking a legal drug like marijuana. Do you have kids? I bet they’ve at least tried it.

Rhondaa · 29/03/2023 14:15

MrsMaxDeWinter · 29/03/2023 14:10

Is it really possible that the posters screeching about why Harry came to court are unable to see that this was part of a coordinated campaign by the litigants?

None of them needed to be in court, not Sadie Frost , not Elton John, not Doreen Lawrence, not David Furnish....

They came en masse to attract attention to the court case.

Are posters just too unimaginative, too thick or too malicious not to see the obvious advantage of some of the litigants turning up in person?

Nobody is 'screeching' lets leave the misogyny aside shall we.

No one is 'too malicious' 'too thick' or 'too unimaginative'. What a lovely way of debating . We are just grown ups with different opinions which is allowed you know.

Whaeanui · 29/03/2023 14:15

@Roussette Harry went in a side door yesterday and there was the same footage. They are absolutely all drawing attention to this on purpose.

Anyone else think it’s ironic the daily Mail ran a story criticising Meghan not wanting a trial and now they’re the ones trying to stop this going to trial?

Roussette · 29/03/2023 14:15

MrsMaxDeWinter · 29/03/2023 14:10

Is it really possible that the posters screeching about why Harry came to court are unable to see that this was part of a coordinated campaign by the litigants?

None of them needed to be in court, not Sadie Frost , not Elton John, not Doreen Lawrence, not David Furnish....

They came en masse to attract attention to the court case.

Are posters just too unimaginative, too thick or too malicious not to see the obvious advantage of some of the litigants turning up in person?

^^ this

They obviously co- ordinated their appearance, all of them. Elton John would no way turn up to this unless they decided between them a course of action

PreparationPreparationPrep · 29/03/2023 14:17

How would you know he would have been ridiculed?
Because this is a MN M&H thread, I'm sure you know the pattern by now.

. And yes, because of what he did, he has become the public face of this case instead of the other claimants.

That is because you choose to focus on Harry. before Rousette mentioned yesterday - many of the pp wouldn't even have remembered Doreen was part of the group. But elsewhere outside of MN Doreen will be at the forefront of discussions and Harry will be one of the group. So my point is they are a group, some mean more to people than others, depending on your SM feed I guess.

PastaLaVistaBabee · 29/03/2023 14:18

So there are those that think Harry's media appearances are self serving, that some of his behaviour is unethical and narcissistic, that much of his behaviour is hypocritical, and that he takes little responsibility or accountability for his actions. There are those on the other side that think he's the bee's knees, giving voice to the silenced, outing wrongdoings in the institution, and that no amount of dissing his family, flashing himself all over the papers or selling his soul for money will damage his godly status. I can't be bothered to join in the debate anymore! 😵‍💫

I hope the British media are held to account. I hope Harry is held to account! Over and out!! 👍

PlanetLuna · 29/03/2023 14:22

Whaeanui · 29/03/2023 13:27

Having “disdain” for someone subjected to a lifetime of institutional and familial abuse (including emotional and financial manipulation) is certainly a choice. I personally find such victim-blaming cruel and insensitive.

I agree completely. I used to really loathe Charles, but after reading Harry’s book I found it really sad actually and have a lot more sympathy. I found the relationship between them to be loving and a father brought up in an impossible situation with enormous responsibilities who didn’t have the tools to help his son, and probably knew it. I feel for them both. I’ve met Charles too. He was really lovely to my Mum.

That’s so interesting. After reading Spare, I also came away with a lot of warmth, respect and empathy for King Charles that I didn’t feel before. He really sounds like a good person.

How lovely that you & your Mum got to meet him. 😌

I’m not excusing the horrible choices he has made and continues to make, but my goodness, that man is certainly STUCK.

Especially with Camilla & William pulling in opposite, incandescent directions. And being surrounded by staff that includes “former” tabloid editors that Camilla undoubtedly convinced him to hire.

He obvs can be petty & insecure, and he’s made his own choices too. But what must his life be like surrounded by all that nastiness and chaos. 😔

MamoruHisaishi · 29/03/2023 14:23

MrsMaxDeWinter · 29/03/2023 14:10

Is it really possible that the posters screeching about why Harry came to court are unable to see that this was part of a coordinated campaign by the litigants?

None of them needed to be in court, not Sadie Frost , not Elton John, not Doreen Lawrence, not David Furnish....

They came en masse to attract attention to the court case.

Are posters just too unimaginative, too thick or too malicious not to see the obvious advantage of some of the litigants turning up in person?

I normally wouldn't have commented on this but I finally got fed up reading once again about him casting blame on the institution of the royal family and decided to finally comment. I'm not even a royalist and I have every reason not to be, but its the sheer hypocrisy of his stance that gets to me. He talks about his brother in the statement, knowing full well he has also betrayed the privacy of his own brother which is even worse imo. And btw, has he asked his brother’s opinion on this? Does William agree with what he says happened regarding the concealment of the phone hackings, or did Harry choose to once again act as though he is the spokesperson for both himself and William?

Whaeanui · 29/03/2023 14:24

@PastaLaVistaBabee I think if you’re going to criticise drug use, you should actually know a bit about it. The benefits of Ayahuasca have been much discussed before he mentioned them. Ayahuasca has long been used for indigenous healing and spiritual rituals.

Science direct

Conclusion: Drinkers of Ayahuasca in naturalistic settings perceived remarkable benefits for their affective symptoms in this survey assessment. There is no obvious evidence of negative mental health effects being associated with long-term consumption. Additional randomized controlled trial evidence is required to establish the efficacy of Ayahuasca in affective disorders, and to understand the worsened symptoms reported by a small percentage of drinkers.

www.psypost.org/2021/06/ayahuasca-use-associated-with-greatly-improved-anxiety-and-depression-symptoms-in-large-international-study-61315

focus.psychiatryonline.org/doi/10.1176/appi.focus.20200047

Ayahuasca improved self-perception of speech performance in socially anxious individuals. These effects occurred independent of task-related anxiety and REFE, suggesting that ayahuasca could specifically improve the cognitive aspect of speech performance. Further studies should try to unveil the mechanisms involved in the effects of ayahuasca and to better understand its effects on anxiety.

pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/34166299/

Roussette · 29/03/2023 14:25

PreparationPreparationPrep · 29/03/2023 14:17

How would you know he would have been ridiculed?
Because this is a MN M&H thread, I'm sure you know the pattern by now.

. And yes, because of what he did, he has become the public face of this case instead of the other claimants.

That is because you choose to focus on Harry. before Rousette mentioned yesterday - many of the pp wouldn't even have remembered Doreen was part of the group. But elsewhere outside of MN Doreen will be at the forefront of discussions and Harry will be one of the group. So my point is they are a group, some mean more to people than others, depending on your SM feed I guess.

Yes, and posters denying there was any press about any of them except Harry.

Blatantly untrue. Even a link was denied

PlanetLuna · 29/03/2023 14:26

Whaeanui · 29/03/2023 13:28

So, back to the case, ANL want it dismissed without a trial. People don’t think Harry should have come over for this.

Oh my!!! ANL are such blazing hypocrites. 🤣🤣🤣

MrsMaxDeWinter · 29/03/2023 14:26

@PlanetLuna @Whaeanui

So interesting to read you both.

I can tell who read SPARE and who is still relying on the hastily and poorly translated Spanish snippets 🙂

Charles came across as a very sad, befuddled father out of his depth with his more emotionally attuned sons, no surprise, they were raised by Diana after all, and he was raised by a mother he said in an interview was cold.

I came away feeling deeply sorry for Charles, even with all his petulance and inadequacies.

Whaeanui · 29/03/2023 14:26

There are those on the other side that think…. your summary isn’t what I think at all.

MamoruHisaishi · 29/03/2023 14:31

PreparationPreparationPrep · 29/03/2023 14:17

How would you know he would have been ridiculed?
Because this is a MN M&H thread, I'm sure you know the pattern by now.

. And yes, because of what he did, he has become the public face of this case instead of the other claimants.

That is because you choose to focus on Harry. before Rousette mentioned yesterday - many of the pp wouldn't even have remembered Doreen was part of the group. But elsewhere outside of MN Doreen will be at the forefront of discussions and Harry will be one of the group. So my point is they are a group, some mean more to people than others, depending on your SM feed I guess.

That's funny because our media here hasn't mentioned the other claimants much and instead the headlines are about Harry criticizing the Royal Family in relation to the phone hacking case.

MamoruHisaishi · 29/03/2023 14:34

Roussette · 29/03/2023 14:25

Yes, and posters denying there was any press about any of them except Harry.

Blatantly untrue. Even a link was denied

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I’m relying on our media here and so far the focus was on Harry mostly. Even the Washington Post’s headline was about him, this is from someone who is outside the UK and therefore only knows what the international media are saying.