Harry is in town to fight against the Daily Mail - VIDEO

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I'm sure we will all wish him well fighting the good fight against the Fail !
https://twitter.com/elliecostelloTV/status/1640274470395838465

So, back to the case, ANL want it dismissed without a trial. People don’t think Harry should have come over for this.

Oh, I forgot to add drug taking to my list of unethical behaviours conducted by Harry! I wonder if he realises how his cocaine was funded, purchased and provided for him. How the cannabis was farmed. Having worked in prisons most of my adult life, I have met the suppliers, gang leaders and importers of these drugs. They claim that if there was no demand they wouldn't be doing what they do. They also complain that the rich and famous, who are supplied with their drugs, never get held accountable. They rightly point out that they are the ones serving long prison sentences while the likes of Harry and many a politician I'm sure, have benefitted from their illegality and are walking Scott free. Harry may well have blood on his hands from those involved in supplying his cocaine, cannabis, and hallucinogens. I wonder if it ever crosses his mind. I wonder how he'd feel if one of the prisoners who was part of the chain of supply decided to hold him to account.

We cannot preach to others, use our enemies, hold people to account and then expect not to be held accountable for our own actions. Harry needs to start taking some accountability for his own conduct if he is to challenge the ethics of others without even acknowledgement or apology for his own actions.

Yes, the British media need to be held accountable for their actions, but so does Harry. However, he lives in a protected bubble and believes he has never ever done wrong and has nothing to be accountable for (much like those he is trying to hold to account).

And you could say the same of international companies who exploit workers from third world countries and have found ways to destroy unions, of politicians who prioritize the rich and are trying to find ways to get rid of public health care, of governments and companies who contribute to the climate heating up, and the spread of propaganda, often by the governments who have basically removed free press. If countries like China have their way and become the major superpower in the world, the press will be controlled by the government and autocrats and I don't want to live in a world like that. Yes the media should be taken to task if found committing illegal acts, but if you think that this should be what's at stake, then you're missing the forest from the trees.

I think the royals mantra works the best. The media don't go too hard on them because there's never any response or drama. The press will be looking through all of Harry's history and will announce any skeletons they find , he also has no protection from palace PR. He seems hellbent on a war with the press but also undermines others privacy.

He doesn't really care about privacy or fairness, he wants to be able to do whatever he wants without any scrutiny.

Oh, I forgot to add drug taking to my list of unethical behaviours conducted by Harry! Harry and every other kid at Eton. I mean do you have kids? You honestly know nobody who has tried drugs? Drinks? Alcohol causes way more problems in society. Cannabis is legal where he lives now 🤷🏽‍♀️ lots of people do it

I don’t think it’s comparable to the tabloids at all.

Yes the media should be taken to task if found committing illegal acts, but if you think that this should be what's at stake, then you're missing the forest from the trees.

What? Word salad. What is it you’re trying to say?

Why would the Royal Family conceal or disregard illegal phone hacking activities from ANL when they havent done that in the past with News of the World?

Don't spoil things by bringing common sense and inconvenient questions into it, MamoruHisaishi

FWIW I'm another who hopes for ANL to get clobbered if they've really done what's alleged, but for the sake of everyone else involved it does seem a shame that so much attention rests on Harry and the distraction of his endless "inaccuracies"
As you suggest it might also have helped if he could keep his focus on the case rather than using it as just another opportunity to blame his family, but since when has he shown the kind of judgement needed for that?

I don’t think I have ever heard Harry acknowledge and say thank you for his privilege.

Then you haven’t been paying attention.

Which isn’t a surprise, based on your comments.

just another opportunity to blame his family

He has not done this at all. Stop saying things that are false. Completely false.

Sure, the media are responsible for what they publish, but Harry is also responsible for his own actions and he knows full well what will gain him the media attention he wants. He plays them and loves it.

The court case is just one. He has the right to go wherever he pleases just like the rest of us. (whether that is sunny California or drizzly central London) posters like yourself do not want to see him in the tabloids etc then the answer is not to go there, once the demand is reduced tabloids will move on from them. It is perfectly possible to go about your daily life without bumping into Harry online, TV or in person. Plenty of people do so. It's only MN RF thread where some are deluded into thinking he is invading their personal space.

To put it in perspective that clip of him was about 1 minute duration if that, it's the same clip all over the Internet but all the hysteria you'd think he had spent 3 hours walking through the crowds. It is absurd - I can avoid H&M if I want to! I can obsess over any of the RF if I choose to. It is up to us to choose where we put our energy and time.

But as @notanotheroneagain pointed out, the court case is about more than Harry.

It's about accountability. If Harry had, as a grown up (not an unwise Eton schoolboy), acknowledged and apologised for his behaviour. Acknowledged his responsibility and accountability for his actions, acknowledged that the demand for illegal drugs contributes to the maintenance of gangs, gun crime and exploitation of the poor, then I wouldn't have an issue. But he has persisted into adulthood to never acknowledge this or his own responsibility.

Kind of like everything he's ever done really - he has taken no responsibility for his nazi uniform (that was Kate and wills fault), implying the royals are racist (that was the media's fault), taunting the school matron (it's ok to laugh at her, no apology as an adult), the comments about killing the Taliban and knock on security risk for the country (that was the media's fault again) etc...

He demands everyone else must change, be held to account, say sorry etc..... Yet I have not once heard him say - "actually, I take some responsibility....."

I don't think the reference to the family is 'blaming' them. It sounds like an explanation as to why he didn't know about the hacking etc within the requisite time (6 years) - it's just to stop ANL's lawyers saying that he must have known because William/Charles/ whoever's offices knew.

You are an articulate writer. Have you considered a career writing for the British tabloids?

If Harry had, as a grown up (not an unwise Eton schoolboy), acknowledged and apologised for his behaviour.

So you acknowledge he was a school boy when he did it, but that mistakes as a young person need to be acknowledged and apologised for as an adult? Have you done that yourself? The point is, he was a child and he made mistakes, often because he wanted to escape. It’s why lots of people misuse drugs as children or even as adults. I don’t think drug taking or drug addiction is something you should necessarily shame people for. In my experience most people do it because they’re lonely, unhappy or suffering trauma from abuse or other tragedy.

I don't think the reference to the family is 'blaming' them.

Just to clarify again, he didn’t say it was his ‘family’ he said it was the people who look after the family’s interests, which he refers to as ‘the institution’. He quite deliberately says institution, not family.

If the case ends up having merit then that's well and good but as phone hacking was already an issue years ago, I don't know what else can be of benefit besides more regulations of the media and potentially ANL shutting down or going bankrupt. There are other concerning issues about privacy, such as websites obtaining personal information about the people who access them, of the spread of propaganda from countries like China and Russia, and from radical groups, that affects a wider range of people including children. Shouldn't these be highlighted as well because it affects pretty much all of us? Also, Prince Harry should have let the case stand as is without bringing up the royal family and Meghan (who have nothing to do with this case). You mention the other claimants but they're not the ones trying to draw attention to themselves. Harry could have chosen to go to the side door like the others instead of walking right where the press was. Unfortunately, he is a controversial person, and he shouldn't have drawn attention to himself because it has made him
the focus of the attention instead of the others and the case as a whole.

I’ve seen more lengthy, utterly unhinged, negative attacks on Harry on this board today than ever. Totally unrelated to the court case.

Not suspicious at all. 🙄

Do international PR agencies allow lunch breaks these days?

But he's continued taking drugs into adulthood and in fact given the message loud and clear that he thinks they r good for people's mental health. That could be incredibly damaging for vulnerable people currently looking for a way out of their despair. Ye he takes no responsibility for the impact his words and advice to take drugs, may have on others.

Yes, I experimented with drugs in my youth. But as an adult I now take responsibility and accountability for my actions. If I was a public figure I would see it as my responsibility to apologise and hold myself to account. Knowing now what I didn't before, about county lines, about drug importation and organised crime, I have no desire to be part of or promote drug culture, unlike Harry. Having worked with people with mental health probs, drug addiction, and suicidal tendencies, I would never advocate drugs as a way to solve your problems or distress.

I made many mistake in my youth. If I was to write a book about my youth, I would acknowledge my wrong doings - if I reported on an argument with my brother I would acknowledge my part in it, not just play the 'poor me' role. If I had a mocked a school matron (which I wouldn't have done) I would feel terrible about it and apologise in the book. I would also have asked them for their consent before writing about it. If I had had sex in a field with a friend I would have talked to them about how they would feel about this going in the book - not just plough on ahead with no heads up.

I am far far from perfect, but as an adult I try to be accountable for my actions. Apologise when I'm in the wrong, and continually seek to improve aspects of myself which are not good.

If I was worried about my family's security, I wouldn't aggravate the Taliban in my book. I wouldn't make a netflix documentary showing my house, my children, my partner.

If I was pissed off with my family, I'd talk about it with them in private. I would not then write a book and make a TV documentary slagging them.off to the world and revealing private conversations had after the death of a grandparent, because despite having my gripes, I have some loyalty.

There are so many things Harry has done which show no remorse or accountability and seem entirely self serving.

Yes he is a controversial figure so the media would have got wind that he is around anyway. In effect if he had gone through the side door he would have been ridiculed for that and still
Ended up on the front pages. So really he should go through whichever doors he wants.

Your explanation would make sense if Harry had chosen to stick with neutral language, and stated facts instead of using emotive language in his statement. Again why did he bring Meghan into his statement and why does he have to use language that makes him seem like a helpless pawn of the royal family if his intent wasn't to blame them?

However, as a member of the Institution the policy was to 'never complain, never explain,'" Harry said. "There was no alternative; I was conditioned to accept it. For the most part, I accepted the interest in my performing my public functions."
All of that changed within the last few years, as Harry's relationship with Meghan Markle became public.
"In late 2016, when my relationship with Meghan, my now wife, became public, I started to become increasingly troubled by the approach of not taking action against the press in the wake of vicious persistent attacks on, harassment of and intrusive, sometimes racist articles concerning Meghan," he said. "The situation got worse after she became pregnant and when our son, Archie, was born."
Things didn't fully come to a head until four years later, as Harry explained, "It is not an exaggeration to say that the bubble burst in terms of what I knew in 2020 when I moved out of the United Kingdom."

But Harry knows the media v well and knew that coming to the UK on a surprise visit would be big news and result in media attention - which is why he did it. He plays them to his own advantage. Always.

😂😂😂 And I applaud him for this. Nicely done, Harry!!!

There was nothing false about retelling that "the strict no comment policy" allegedly meant that "even the worst or most suspicious articles were often never brought to (his) attention" Whaeanui

At a push we could say that was the institution rather than the family itself, but it seems a moot point when it's almost impossible to separate the two, and it's certainly no use blaming individual staff since they work as directed by the principals and their culture

Hear hear! Well done Harry! Draw attention to the rotten practices of the media

Harry has a few lines of thought beyond which he seems unable to move. He’s absolutely fixated on these things . It would be nice if he gave up ranting and raving and playing the victim. He is a very fortunate man.