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Harry is in town to fight against the Daily Mail - VIDEO

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vera99 · 27/03/2023 09:58

I'm sure we will all wish him well fighting the good fight against the Fail !
https://twitter.com/elliecostelloTV/status/1640274470395838465

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notanotheroneagain · 29/03/2023 12:55

Whaeanui · 29/03/2023 12:38

@PastaLaVistaBabee but Harry’s not anti media though. He’s just calling out the unethical and illegal behaviour of the British tabloids

True.

He is against unfair, lying media who get news by devious means.

He can get coverage from People even Town and Country etc. What he doesn't have time for and are bloody useless to him are rags like DM/Sun. If they were reporting on his charities and not telling lies and using dubious means. He has no use at all for British tabloids.

I remember a friend coming from another country and astounded how biased the UK papers are. In her country you have to report the story objectively with pure facts. If you have an 'opinion piece' it must come from both sides. Something I don't see in red tops.

Roussette · 29/03/2023 12:55

Exactly.

And all posters can do is bang on about him riding a bike with his Dad 30 years ago.

They just CANNOT look at the case as a whole with the seven other claimants, it shines a light on the fact this case is a GOOD thing and is of benefit to all. Shock horror Harry could be doing something good. That must really piss off some of the more strident detractors

PastaLaVistaBabee · 29/03/2023 12:56

PreparationPreparationPrep · 29/03/2023 12:53

But isn't it the media's choice to follow him. There are several other high profile celebs involved in the cases. But they have chosen to follow Harry - why is that? The BBC / DF do not have to report it - MN and Twitter could be discussing Elton John or Doreen Lawrence but they are only referenced in a discussion about Harry. I can't see how you can blame him when the media could easily fill the page with someone else.

The tabloids could easily slot Elton or Doreen in place of Harry but that would mean not as much 💰

Well if Harry was completely unaware the media would follow him or splash this over the papers then yes, I'd blame the media. But Harry knows the media v well and knew that coming to the UK on a surprise visit would be big news and result in media attention - which is why he did it. He plays them to his own advantage. Always.

PreparationPreparationPrep · 29/03/2023 12:56

If it was anything other than that he would have kept away and remained focused on the legal challenge not

But why should he - he is free to come abs go as he pleasers

putting himself on the front pages.

How does he do this ? Isn't it the decision of the tabloids?

Ishouldbeoutside · 29/03/2023 12:57

PastaLaVistaBabee · 29/03/2023 12:45

I would argue quite a bit of Harry's behaviour has been unethical - never meeting his father-in-law or allowing him to meet his grandchildren, outing his first sexual experience in a book with no heads up to her - knowing the person would be identifiable, dissing his family (including his own brother and father) to the world, talking about killing 25 Taliban, laughing at a disabled school matron, polluting the environment by flying to the UK when a video call would have sufficed, living in massive multi-million pound mansion when people all over the world are starving and homeless ... the list goes on.

Calling out the ethics of others is fine if you are at the very least, working on your own. But to call out the ethics of someone while at the same time acting unethically in multiple ways yourself, with no acknowledgement or apology, just seems a little off.

Plus - if he is genuinely interested in improving the ethical practices of the media - rather than raising his own profile - he definitely had no need to come to the UK this week. The appearance was a stunt for self gain and self promotion. If it was anything other than that he would have kept away and remained focused on the legal challenge not putting himself on the front pages.

Absolutely this.

PlanetLuna · 29/03/2023 12:59

PastaLaVistaBabee · 29/03/2023 11:08

Harry said the royals didn't bring certain articles to his attention.

Can the man not read? Surely he's capable of reading the papers and viewing the articles for himself - or was he hoping to just sit back and then anything he might b annoyed about someone else would bring to show him?

Personally, I deal with my own issues. I read the papers, watch the news. If I saw something I wasn't happy about and was the raising type (I'm not), I'd raise it. At the time I saw it. Not after many years when someone decided to show it to me because I'd not found it for myself.

He's buggered off overseas, short of money and now in the papers every bloody day and yet the one thing he claims to be most annoyed about is his privacy being invaded. I wish he would just keep his life private as he constantly says he wants to. There was no need for him to come here, to the country he hates led by a monarchy he hates. He could have quietly stayed at home, retained his privacy, and joined the pre hearing remotely.

World wide privacy tour - currently touring UK.

Harry despises the corrupt royal rota and invisible contract systems. He abhors the criminal activity of toxic, greedy, out-of-control tabloid media.

Allegations that he is unpatriotic, hates the UK, the monarchy and his own family is the craven result of a sustained & systematic misinformation campaign by that media. It is simply not true.

https://yorkshirebylines.co.uk/news/home-affairs/harry-and-meghan-haters-time-to-face-facts-you-are-being-played/

Harry and Meghan haters: time to face facts, you are being played

We all pay a price we can no longer afford for a bullying, poisonous media.

https://yorkshirebylines.co.uk/news/home-affairs/harry-and-meghan-haters-time-to-face-facts-you-are-being-played/

PreparationPreparationPrep · 29/03/2023 12:59

But then you are implying the papers don't have a say - and absolving them of any responsibilities- which they do ! They decide who and what goes in their papers not Harry.

notanotheroneagain · 29/03/2023 13:02

Rhondaa · 29/03/2023 12:44

'Why are you so sure ANL is not guilty'

I'm not but it is just all allegations at this stage. I like to see the evidence and the proof before jumping on Harold's anti British media circus bandwagon.

What do you think of Burrows statement?

Speaking of Burrows.

He is the one that repeatedly asserted that Charles did not read any tabloids and said Diana would have to go out and buy them herself if she wanted to read them. So not sure why it's unbelievable that Harry was not reading papers before MM came along and someone alerted him that things were quite over the top with her.

PreparationPreparationPrep · 29/03/2023 13:03

@PastaLaVistaBabee
I am not saying he is unaware - of course he is aware but the decision to publish is not his - it is about the media giving the public what they want to buy. He shouldn't have to not live his life because of the tabloids - so not come to the court case because he knows the tabloids will be waiting. Hmm

PlanetLuna · 29/03/2023 13:05

notanotheroneagain · 29/03/2023 11:24

Bollocks! I never said any such thing.

On the same post I mentioned a German ancestor, I also mentioned a French one. Do you go around tracking and taking notes of all posters? No wonder people get nervous to post on here, but I guess that is your aim. To intimidate people with unfounded doxxing.

We are literally talking about rags creating culture wars just now, and here you are with some dog whistle for the racists and xenophobes with your unfounded ridiculous accusations. Highly offensive. I do not care what race/nationality/gender posters are. This is about the RF, not about who the posters are.

What's you problem anyway, do you work for the rags or something?

VixenTodd · Today 10:42

Notanotheroneagain has said her first language is German.

Her ideas worry me more

@notanotheroneagain
Indeed, I found that 10:42am post to be blatantly xenophobic and reported it. It is wholly unacceptable.

PastaLaVistaBabee · 29/03/2023 13:07

PreparationPreparationPrep · 29/03/2023 12:59

But then you are implying the papers don't have a say - and absolving them of any responsibilities- which they do ! They decide who and what goes in their papers not Harry.

The british media are responsible for publishing what they publish, which is largely driven by public demand. The press is a cash machine, they get money from people reading or watching what they provide. We all know how it works, including Harry.

Harry, of all people, knows he is in demand and that the media will want to publish stories about him. So he has choices - stay away from the media (which is easy enough - he has a lovely house in montecito where he could tend chickens, work quietly on his charity work, and cycle his kids around the garden... etc..) or pull stunts to attract the media (such as paying a surprise visit to the UK, to attend a trial he didn't need to attend in person).

Sure, the media are responsible for what they publish, but Harry is also responsible for his own actions and he knows full well what will gain him the media attention he wants. He plays them and loves it.

Nonotmeagain · 29/03/2023 13:07

What is at stake? Have you read what was being done to the claimants, of whom Harry is but one? You want to live in a country knowing such abuses are still possible and where people live in fear of challenging this? What kind of country are we, where the media is now more powerful than the people? Unelected, unknown people having such power over us and the people we elect? These claimants are speaking out but make no mistake, our elected politicians are possibly and could be controlled by this powerful force, that can cripple them into silence.

But clearly the media has done a right number on our people to make them focus on the wrong thing. It proves the point of how just dangerous they are In controlling what you think.

Inkanta · 29/03/2023 13:09

Nonotmeagain · 29/03/2023 13:07

What is at stake? Have you read what was being done to the claimants, of whom Harry is but one? You want to live in a country knowing such abuses are still possible and where people live in fear of challenging this? What kind of country are we, where the media is now more powerful than the people? Unelected, unknown people having such power over us and the people we elect? These claimants are speaking out but make no mistake, our elected politicians are possibly and could be controlled by this powerful force, that can cripple them into silence.

But clearly the media has done a right number on our people to make them focus on the wrong thing. It proves the point of how just dangerous they are In controlling what you think.

Yes - spot on!

Nonotmeagain · 29/03/2023 13:12

This is not about Harry and the purple nonsense of media attention, who is wearing what, who is curtsying to whom, who is appearing on a balcony, who has titles and who is playing dress up. This is bigger than all this nonsense. This is about the very fabric of our democracy.

We are a grown up country. A developed country. A once great country and all we can think of is about childish things whilst our country is being wrecked right under our noses but being told to look the other way or look at a family playing dress up.

Nonotmeagain · 29/03/2023 13:13

That should be puerile rather than purple 😀

MamoruHisaishi · 29/03/2023 13:14

PreparationPreparationPrep · 29/03/2023 12:36

Whatever Harry does or doesn't do if posters dislike him they will find a way to stretch their point however absurd.

This case started in 2018, after Meghan and before Oprah and his book.. He couldn't predict where and when the case will start. So to say

1st - leave the RF

  1. Oprah
  2. Netflix .... book and now a joint court case etc doesn't make make sense.

This is a stretch to say he has taken this on to dig at the RF - he has to make it clear how and when he found out all the details - he can't not mention them he was and still is a member of the RF. The more people who have been affected speak up the better their chances. It seems so childish to say that because you don't like M&H he shouldn't be involved - or should join over zoom. What does it matter? - your taxes are not paying for him to get here.

What does the Royal Family have to do with this case at all? He's accused them without any evidence whatsoever that they deliberately hid information from him, including news articles that seemed ‘suspicous’. He's the one who brought them into this case, just like he does with pretty much everything, it’s all so vague and lacking in substance and past incidents contradicts what he says. Why would the Royal Family conceal or disregard illegal phone hacking activities from ANL when they havent done that in the past with News of the World? If he wants to bring a claim against ANL it should be solely on that instead of making accusations (once again) of nefarious activities from the institution.

PastaLaVistaBabee · 29/03/2023 13:14

Nonotmeagain · 29/03/2023 13:07

What is at stake? Have you read what was being done to the claimants, of whom Harry is but one? You want to live in a country knowing such abuses are still possible and where people live in fear of challenging this? What kind of country are we, where the media is now more powerful than the people? Unelected, unknown people having such power over us and the people we elect? These claimants are speaking out but make no mistake, our elected politicians are possibly and could be controlled by this powerful force, that can cripple them into silence.

But clearly the media has done a right number on our people to make them focus on the wrong thing. It proves the point of how just dangerous they are In controlling what you think.

I don't think anyone is claiming we don't want to hold the media to account. But Harry arriving in the UK by surprise, walking in the front entrance of the court etc.. is a stunt exactly designed to get press attention. He can't complain about it on the one hand, but revel in it the next. This was a pre trial. He didn't need to be there. He could have joined online. There was nothing to gain from being there. If he absolutely had to be there, he could have asked to be snuck in quietly round the back I'm sure. For a man that preaches about climate change, has had to flee from the UK, feels the UK have been racist towards his wife etc.. it was a little pointless to fly all the way to the UK for a trial he needn't have been personally present at. Very very very few people could afford to fly half way round the world to attend a pre- trial they didn't need to attend in person. For something they are passionate about I'm sure some would mortgage the house or take a loan to fly if necessary or to give evidence or to hear the verdict. But for this pre hearing? The man has more money than sense and his appearance here this week was simply for publicity.

Rhondaa · 29/03/2023 13:16

'Why would the Royal Family conceal or disregard illegal phone hacking activities from ANL when they havent done that in the past with News of the World? If he wants to bring a claim against ANL it should be solely on that instead of making accusations (once again) of nefarious activities from the institution.'

Exactly.

PastaLaVistaBabee · 29/03/2023 13:19

Rhondaa · 29/03/2023 13:16

'Why would the Royal Family conceal or disregard illegal phone hacking activities from ANL when they havent done that in the past with News of the World? If he wants to bring a claim against ANL it should be solely on that instead of making accusations (once again) of nefarious activities from the institution.'

Exactly.

And some people wonder why Charles was 'busy'! If I was Charles, I'd have been busy too.

PlanetLuna · 29/03/2023 13:21

MamoruHisaishi · 29/03/2023 11:24

I'm not from the UK but from one of the Commonwealth countries, and as much as I wanted to give him the benefit of the doubt I find it harder and harder not to feel disdain for him. I'm not saying that he has no right to feel heard or to express his feelings/struggles, but all he does is act like the biggest victim. When I read comments here mentioning the royal family as being like slaves to the public, I want to throw up because they clearly don't know what real slavery is and the actual struggles of people who have no hopes of ever climbing out of poverty due to either not being born into the right family or because of the circumstances that they've faced. Those people, some who are relatives who live in what is considered a third world country, would trade their lives to live like Harry in an instant, even with all the public scrutiny. I bet they would do a better job at fitting in as well. Having seen the true extent of poverty and misery, it just sickens me that someone like Prince Harry has never once shown any acknowledgement of the good fortune he has of being born the son of the king, of the privilege that he has due to being born into the a powerful and wealthy family.

My experience and perception is that more people from Commonwealth countries and people of colour everywhere tend to support Harry. We recognise the legacy of colonialism and slavery, even those of us who do (or did) support the monarchy.
I can recognise and acknowledge the gilded cage in which the RF resides and have empathy for the toll that must take on them as humans. I doubt many of us would want to have to live like that.

Having “disdain” for someone subjected to a lifetime of institutional and familial abuse (including emotional and financial manipulation) is certainly a choice. I personally find such victim-blaming cruel and insensitive.

Nonotmeagain · 29/03/2023 13:22

Good he brought attention. If he didn’t, the majority of people wouldn’t have known about the terrible and frankly scary behaviour of the media and what they are still capable of.

The Dailymail has been hiding it and choosing not to inform you of what’s going on.

But Blair Harry for not letting them get away with it. Yes, he is the villain.

Whaeanui · 29/03/2023 13:23

never meeting his father-in-law or allowing him to meet his grandchildren, outing his first sexual experience in a book with no heads up to her - knowing the person would be identifiable, dissing his family (including his own brother and father) to the world, talking about killing 25 Taliban, laughing at a disabled school matron, polluting the environment by flying to the UK when a video call would have sufficed, living in massive multi-million pound mansion when people all over the world are starving and homeless ... the list goes on.

  • I don’t think not meeting your father in law is unethical at all, that is a ridiculous thing to compare to tabloids writing lies and obtaining medical information about you.
  • allowing him to meet your children: he’s Meghans father, it’s her choice and plenty of people go NC with family for very good reasons, to protect themselves and their family. After Thomas’ behaviour I don’t blame them. It’s not unethical at all. I consider Thomas going to media and threatening to keep doing it until he meets his grandson to be disgraceful. My father would never do that no matter what I did.
  • he didn’t name his first sexual partner, he’s entitled to talk about it, it’s also his experience, he told every story he knew they had on him so they couldn’t.
  • it’s not unethical to ‘diss’ your family, plenty of people do it, including Charles. They’ve been dissing him and his wife well before he wrote the book or talked to Oprah, they just got their staff to do it.
  • not unethical to talk about war, kill counts used to be put on the side of planes, it’s the reality of war
  • again the matron story was honest and unpleasant but he wasn’t writing it with pride, if you read the whole passage you understand that. Again if he withheld any story it would only be printed in the tabloids.
  • polluting the environment 😂😂😂 what a ridiculous claim. I can’t be bothered with that one.
  • living in a mansion is unethical? Comparable to phone hacking? Ok sure 🤦🏾‍♀️

I’m sure your list goes on, and I’m sure if we dissected your life and what you did from the age of 13 to 40 we’d find lots and lots of behaviour you are pretending to state is unethical instead of human failings we all have. I went to boarding school, it was horrendous and the matrons were mean, we called one of them ‘beetle’ to her face, because she was so large her legs made beetle sounds as she walked. I know as an adult that’s horrible, but I was a deeply unhappy lonely child away from home, we all were, and the matrons were no comfort.

Nonotmeagain · 29/03/2023 13:25

@PlanetLuna they are choosing to be blind. This suits the media as they are simply sheep to be led.

To be supporting the media in this grossly criminal and corrupt behaviour tells you all you need to know about what is happening to Great Britain. No wonder many abroad are scratching their heads wondering what’s wrong with us.

Rhondaa · 29/03/2023 13:26

'I don't think anyone is claiming we don't want to hold the media to account. But Harry arriving in the UK by surprise, walking in the front entrance of the court etc.. is a stunt exactly designed to get press attention. He can't complain about it on the one hand'

Oh was all to prove he 'means business' apparently! Despite the fact he could just as easily mean business if it goes to actual trial. Yes was for media and Netflix attention (reality show vol 2 $$) and to play the victim once again no doubt as no one wanted to see him. He really is a shallow, troubled fool.

Whaeanui · 29/03/2023 13:27

Having “disdain” for someone subjected to a lifetime of institutional and familial abuse (including emotional and financial manipulation) is certainly a choice. I personally find such victim-blaming cruel and insensitive.

I agree completely. I used to really loathe Charles, but after reading Harry’s book I found it really sad actually and have a lot more sympathy. I found the relationship between them to be loving and a father brought up in an impossible situation with enormous responsibilities who didn’t have the tools to help his son, and probably knew it. I feel for them both. I’ve met Charles too. He was really lovely to my Mum.

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