Harry is in town to fight against the Daily Mail - VIDEO

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I'm sure we will all wish him well fighting the good fight against the Fail !
https://twitter.com/elliecostelloTV/status/1640274470395838465

Is Harry on trial or is it the immoral practices of our press that is on trial? We do like blaming victims.

If Harry wins, we all win. If he and his go-claimants lose, we all lose.

Rise above this ridiculous hatred for him and look deeply at what is really at stake here.

And we can all throw around the I am from a Commonwealth country, I am from this or that community, etc. It matters not. The strength of wrong or right, good or bad, does not depend on your identity.

Pollyanna quote.

@Nonotmeagain sorry you were subject to such racism on here.
We do like blaming victims. Sadly that is all too common isn’t it. Harry is one claimant, so if they’re saying he shouldn’t go on about it, they’re saying that to all of them. Which is pretty disgusting. There should be no reason anyone objects to any of them bringing this claim at all.

It seems to be the same story over and over, he can't seem to let go or change the narrative that's formed in his mind. He's done the Oprah interview, done the documentary and wrote a book about his unhappiness with the institution and how his brother and father supposedly failed him. Not sure why he can’t just move on and go no contact with his family if they really are that toxic? If he feels so betrayed and hurt by them, and if they were the ones who were responsible for making his wife feel like killing herself, why does he even want a reconciliation with them when neither his father or brother want to communicate with him? Why keep forcing the issue? It seems to me that he’s the one who needs them more than they need him and he can't handle it so he keeps trying to gain their attention by making all these accusations again and again. Also does he not realise how he comes across as such a hypocrite? Does he even feel empathy for his brother and sister in law who have not only had their privacy invaded when their phones were hacked, when topless photos were taken of Catherine not to mention photos taken of things they did during their honeymoon and now their own relative who has exposed their private conversations and interactions. Fair enough if Harry wants to talk about his own experiences and interactions, but how is mentioning his brother’s private parts and balding hair not supposed to be seen as anything but mockery against his own brother? And then to mention his brother’s children as though he’s trying to save them, when they have their own parents to protect them? He has no sense of boundaries whatsoever, and I don't blame his family if they don't ever want to talk to him anymore.

Not mine either, but I'm fine with a level field where all sides are presented.

The rags seem to have strong-armed other publications into this selling hate.

In this particular case, they seem to have a stranglehold on the RF. In many ways, Harry is trying to free his family, imo, despite what others see. If he is successful (which I hope he is), bear great fruits for his family. They may no see it now, but as they say, the path to freedom is filled with obstacles.

Like many on here, I too show my support.

Go Harry !

BBC: “Prince Harry said the Royal Family - which he referred to as the Institution” ( inaccurate )

NBC: “[Harry] also alleges that those who handle the royal family's interests, referred to as the Institution” ( his statement )

I thought this important to note, for clarity. It seems uk media are hellbent on creating a narrative that he is attacking ‘family’. He’s not.

It seems to be the same story over and over

Youre just not getting it are you? This is a legal case, with other claimants, that is the first time anyone has taken ANL to court for hacking amongst other things including theft of medical information. It’s the first time his statement about this case has been known publicly too. Feel free not to come to threads if you’re sick of hearing about it, ditto reading anything about it. You absolutely aren’t obliged to read or listen to a thing he says.

Nobody cancelled @MamoruHisaishi experience, they were the ones making assumptions about other people actually.

So you get to decide that because you post all day long.

'This is a legal case, with other claimants, that is the first time anyone has taken ANL to court for hacking amongst other things including theft of medical information'

It's all alleged though isnt it. You mustn't get so excited it isn't a done deal you know. Gavin Burrow's <a Pi who allegedly supplied info to ANL> has categorically denied involvement.

I wonder why Harry apparently only became aware of all this in 2020 🤔. Perhaps he's been living in a cage with no access to the media.

Cave*

Decide what? Nobody denied their experience at all, it didn’t happen. They directed comments to me referencing mine and I responded about my life. You’re so determined to derail this thread. You sit on this board with negativity but object if anyone else shows up committing time to post? Weird.

The issue I have is not with Harry quietly taking on the press, away from the press. It is with all the stunts he plays and the way he is constantly in the media.

Harry says he and Meghan had to 'flee' the UK. Fine. I would have had so much respect for them if they had disappeared to somewhere quiet in Canada or the US or wherever, and she had continued with her profession of acting, and he had continued quietly supporting veterans and other charities. If he wanted to file lawsuits against the press then fine. Get on with it quietly away from the media glare. This current case for example he could have quietly ploughed on with from his home in the US and it would have warranted no more than the odd few sentences in the papers, with no intrusive photos of him etc..

But what I have an issue with, is a man banging on and on and on about security risks to himself and his family, and privacy concerns. Yes with the same breath he breaches the privacy of himself, family and friends in his book. He is a journalist revealing private information about people without their consent, yet has an issue with it when someone else does it to him.

He is a man that demands privacy, yet pops up every 5 seconds and reveals private details - Oprah, netflix, his own book and now this stunt coming to the UK when he needn't have.

Harry could have saved the security risk, money, fuel, media intrusion, and environmental impact of travelling to the UK, by quietly getting on with this lawsuit from his home. Yet here he is, popping up as a surprise in the UK, knowing full well the media attention he would get.

If he wants to be taken seriously, to be liked, for his messages to be heard and taken seriously, to not be viewed as a hypocrite, then he would be wise to keep himself private. Embarking on a world wide privacy tour and pulling media stunts (which is what this latest trip to the UK is) is not the way to get privacy and respect.

The problem with Harry is not that he wishes to hold the media to account (that's fine. Most of us want an accountable media) but that he can't live without them, needs them, and actually benefits massively from their existence. Without the media (Oprah, his book, netflix, this current media appearance) he'd be nothing but ordinary. Something he has always claimed he wants, but actually is something I think he can't live with.

You will say this till you are blue in the face.

He clarifies it in the book, interviews to promote the book and all.

But, his 'critics' will have nothing on him if they acknowledged this. So they tediously go on about it. Just like the 'they want privacy' that H&M never said. The 'hypocrisy' of private jets, which Travelyst does not condemn if you carbon offset. On and on it goes.......................

Never seen such a made up problem since, bigotry !

'You sit on this board with negativity '

The pp doesn't 'sit on this board with negativity', they just post like everyone else.

I wonder why Harry apparently only became aware of all this in 2020 🤔. Perhaps he's been living in a cage with no access to the media.

Do you think the same about other claimants? Why are you so sure ANL is not guilty? Why do you care when he knew? It’s weird to focus so much on Harry and pick apart when he knew, while barely commenting on the list of alleged crimes committed by ANL. I have a lot of faith in David Sherborne and I don’t think he’d agree to do this if there wasn’t evidence. I also don’t think Baroness Lawrence would do this without evidence after all she’s been through.

What exactly is at stake? These incidents occurred from years ago and good and well if ANL is sued successfully if it's shown that they did hack into peoples phones. But how does that impact the rest of us? What's more concerning is that there's tech right now that can hack into your own information and can release them to third parties who can use that info against you or for their own nefarious deeds. That's something that I have yet to see Prince Harry take on if he's truly concerned about peoples privacy and not just his own.

Whatever Harry does or doesn't do if posters dislike him they will find a way to stretch their point however absurd.

This case started in 2018, after Meghan and before Oprah and his book.. He couldn't predict where and when the case will start. So to say

1st - leave the RF

1. Oprah
2. Netflix .... book and now a joint court case etc doesn't make make sense.

This is a stretch to say he has taken this on to dig at the RF - he has to make it clear how and when he found out all the details - he can't not mention them he was and still is a member of the RF. The more people who have been affected speak up the better their chances. It seems so childish to say that because you don't like M&H he shouldn't be involved - or should join over zoom. What does it matter? - your taxes are not paying for him to get here.

@PastaLaVistaBabee but Harry’s not anti media though. He’s just calling out the unethical and illegal behaviour of the British tabloids

'The problem with Harry is not that he wishes to hold the media to account (that's fine. Most of us want an accountable media) but that he can't live without them, needs them, and actually benefits massively from their existence. Without the media (Oprah, his book, netflix, this current media appearance) he'd be nothing but ordinary'

Yep. Sells his soul and his family's private info to the media, then objects to intrusion. Granted any illegal methods of obtaining information should of course be published and those responsible held to account but as I said with prime witness Burrows denying supplying ANL with anything obtained illegally you do wonder where it will go from here.

But how does that impact the rest of us? They have hacked phones and so much much more, of thousands of ordinary people. Largely without punishments or justice or even admitting guilt because nobody else has the resources to take them all the way to court. They hacked the phones of victims of crimes fgs And do you realise he isn’t the only claimant? Why don’t you care about how they treated Baroness Lawrence?

'Why are you so sure ANL is not guilty'

I'm not but it is just all allegations at this stage. I like to see the evidence and the proof before jumping on Harold's anti British media circus bandwagon.

What do you think of Burrows statement?

I would argue quite a bit of Harry's behaviour has been unethical - never meeting his father-in-law or allowing him to meet his grandchildren, outing his first sexual experience in a book with no heads up to her - knowing the person would be identifiable, dissing his family (including his own brother and father) to the world, talking about killing 25 Taliban, laughing at a disabled school matron, polluting the environment by flying to the UK when a video call would have sufficed, living in massive multi-million pound mansion when people all over the world are starving and homeless ... the list goes on.

Calling out the ethics of others is fine if you are at the very least, working on your own. But to call out the ethics of someone while at the same time acting unethically in multiple ways yourself, with no acknowledgement or apology, just seems a little off.

Plus - if he is genuinely interested in improving the ethical practices of the media - rather than raising his own profile - he definitely had no need to come to the UK this week. The appearance was a stunt for self gain and self promotion. If it was anything other than that he would have kept away and remained focused on the legal challenge not putting himself on the front pages.

But isn't it the media's choice to follow him. There are several other high profile celebs involved in the cases. But they have chosen to follow Harry - why is that? The BBC / DF do not have to report it - MN and Twitter could be discussing Elton John or Doreen Lawrence but they are only referenced in a discussion about Harry. I can't see how you can blame him when the media could easily fill the page with someone else.

The tabloids could easily slot Elton or Doreen in place of Harry but that would mean not as much 💰