Harry is in town to fight against the Daily Mail - VIDEO

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I'm sure we will all wish him well fighting the good fight against the Fail !
https://twitter.com/elliecostelloTV/status/1640274470395838465

There are two potential problems with this current case. Firstly, the fact that the abuses it alleges all took place a long time ago, starting in the early 2000s.

Im pretty sure I just read that David Sherborne said today it continued up to 2018… I’ll see if I can find that

The lawsuits that posters above are referring to as being settled by hacking victims were all against News International publications, and have nothing to do with this case against ANL, the publisher of the Mail.

Thanks, @Serenster. This is what I thought. I searched but I couldn't find ANL had offered settlements. But when other people are insistent it's true, it makes you doubt yourself.

Yes I found it, this is from today

Mr Sherborne said such acts encompassed "illegally intercepting voicemail messages, listening into live landline calls, obtaining private information, such as itemised phone bills or medical records, by deception or 'blagging', using private investigators to commit these unlawful information gathering acts on their behalf and even commissioning the breaking and entry into private property".
The claims span a period from 1993 to 2011, "even continuing beyond until 2018", he added.

The number of times Harry/Kate/William’s phones were hacked also relate to the News International cases, and are not allegations against the Mail

I guess any proved to have happened up til 2017 will still be in time. But any hacking that happened before 2017 could be judged out of time.

Yes - so some of the allegations, by some of the claimants, may still be in time.

The court doesn’t apply an “all or nothing” approach - it goes through each separate allegation to establish if they are in time or not. The allegations from 1993 to 2011 are the ones that may well be struck out.

The claims span a period from 1993 to 2011, "even continuing beyond until 2018", he added.

I read this as the claims bought in this case relate to events between 1993 to 2011, however, it did continue after this point but these are not included in this particular case?

I might be interpreting that incorrectly though.

I don't really see any hair distribution so I really comment on that

He has an androgenic balding pattern - full in the front and balding on the crown. It would be unusual to not have started on the crown as the temples are/were not receding as fast. I think it’s established it is unlikely that he would use pubic hair as transplant due to the fullness of the normal donor area which is very apparent. Though for the people for whom that would be a choice (if they had no other spots like chest or back hair) would be in a real state of desperation .

So did you have to have hair transplants for your alopecia or did it rectify itself? I think its not uncommon to lose hair after childbirth although it usually grows back. I hope that's the case for you.

Thanks @Serenster - really helpful to have the issues with the law explained. I agree Harry should put his efforts behind Hacked Off.

Some of us are pretty clear about the difference between ANL and NI and made that clear in pps.

We all remember Andy Coulson etc! Unfortunately!

Yes apparently the ANL titles are desperate not to be dragged in to the phone hacking scandal but the whole point is that this current case is part of the same issue about the tabloid press obtaining information from individuals.

Are we seriously saying that one set of tabloid newspapers employed these tactics and not, allegedly, another?

Obtaining information illegally that should have said!

Unfortunately no - I have patches all over my head and although my trichologist has been very encouraging that my hair is growing in those patches (it isn’t really) I accepted that my hair will never grow back. I also do not have a large enough unaffected donor area if I did want a hair transplant - the patches run through there 😟. So I have assorted variety of wigs - feisty redhead for nights out, a bronde power wig when I mean business, a short bob for walks and a bright purple one for festivals and Halloween.

Oh @skullbabe , I'm sorry. That's crap. My sister, like I said, has terrible problems with thinning hair patches and uneven growing. She's a real trooper about it but I know it's really upsetting for her. I've bought her lots of things I see online but nothing helps. She's got a couple of wigs and clip ons to try and disguise things. But it takes quite a bit of confidence to wear wigs.
It really does seem to be an increasing problem or maybe more women are being brave enough to come forward to talk about it. My sister watches a few youtubers and the way they cope with much worse situations than hers has really helped her come to terms with it. And I use that term advisedly because, like you, as much as she, and I, try so hard to try and rectify the situation, realistically there is very little we can do to actually make it grow.
I do wish you all the best for the situation you find yourself in. ❤

Yes apparently the ANL titles are desperate not to be dragged in to the phone hacking scandal

Paul Dacre could be in a lot of trouble if it was proven

Are we seriously saying that one set of tabloid newspapers employed these tactics and not, allegedly, another?

Well, I certainly believe that they are all as morally bankrupt as each other, no question. But I also know they keep a very tight rein on their sources and their means of gathering information as it’s a very competitive market out there. It is certainly possible that none of the other publications actually came up with the idea of hacking into voicemail services - because the NOTW and the Sun would have kept that information source very close to their chest.

I have no troubling believing they all routinely bribed people working for health service/HMRC/the Courts etc to pass confidential information onto them, though.

Not being funny, @MarshaMelrose, but did you actually read “Spare”?

I ask because you keep using that word “betrayed”. Harry’s overall treatment of his family was pretty far from “betrayal”.

An honest question: Is there a way to block an individual poster on MN?

Just curious in case I want to spare myself from reading inane comments in the future. Thanks in advance.

If your brother revealed private conversations which you had an expectation of staying private, how would you feel? If your brother put you in a position where the press were asking you directly if you were a racist, how would you feel? Particularly as your brother accepts an award for fighting racism in your family and then comes out and says there was no racism. So all the time people were saying you were a racist, your brother never corrected that impression he'd given. Would that make you feel betrayed? If your brother revealed private medical treatment, or made personal comments about your looks, isn't that a betrayal?

Not being funny, but if you think all of that is done out of affection, you've got a pretty strange view of a loving sibling.

Furthermore, according to Harry, William leaks to the paper all the time. There have been reports that William feels betrayed. So if we believe Harry, they came from William.

All good points, @Whaeanui.

Sadly no

Wishing him and the other defendants all the best, the Daily Mail and other gossip rags owned by Non Dom, no-tax paying billionaires should be destroyed once and for all

The mumsnet "We hate Harry" brigade in full force then- having their thinking skills decimated by their bizarre repulsion for someone they've never met and has no bearing on their lives.
To make it easy for you:
You might willingly have photos of your house on Rightmove, but that doesn't give anyone the right to use false pretences to sneak into your property and take their own photos.

A family might open their Palace to the public in the summer months when they aren't there, but that doesn't mean they have no right to complaint if a member of the press then breaks into the Palace and goes hunting through their dildo drawer.

You might be naive enough to hand your WhatsApp messages over to a journalist to write a book about your amazing time as a politician and how you fell in love in a cupboard, but that still doesn't give the press any right to then hack your phone.

A person can share whatever they like, that doesn't take away their rights.

Not a fan of Harry & imo it’s slight double standards but I wish him luck. The media power needs to be broken. I blame the DM in part for brexit.

@skullbabe & @MarshaMelrose have you heard of Lucinda Ellery? I have female pattern baldness & al thinking of trying there. Another client of my hairdresser recommended her.

I’ll try & find a link. Sorry for derail.

Elton John was at the court today, don’t let your bias against Harry cloud your judgement! A win for the defendants in this case is a win for lots of people who have been unfairly targeted by these rags over the years