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Harry is in town to fight against the Daily Mail - VIDEO

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vera99 · 27/03/2023 09:58

I'm sure we will all wish him well fighting the good fight against the Fail !
https://twitter.com/elliecostelloTV/status/1640274470395838465

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derxa · 27/03/2023 20:06

Roussette · 27/03/2023 20:01

Here is the latest. What disgusting invasions of privacy.

Bugs taped to windows, hacking of ex-husbands, medical records of Liz Hurley whilst pregnant, and more

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/crime/sadie-frost-actresses-mail-on-sunday-high-court-b2308956.html

Utterly appalling

VixenTodd · 27/03/2023 20:07

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Rhondaa · 27/03/2023 20:09

Roussette · 27/03/2023 20:01

Here is the latest. What disgusting invasions of privacy.

Bugs taped to windows, hacking of ex-husbands, medical records of Liz Hurley whilst pregnant, and more

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/crime/sadie-frost-actresses-mail-on-sunday-high-court-b2308956.html

Just awful, awful invasions of privacy. All for money. It's really disgusting isn't it.

Is that Liz Hurley?! it looks nothing like her.

skullbabe · 27/03/2023 20:12

Sadie Frost on one side and Liz Hurley on the other

Puzzledandpissedoff · 27/03/2023 20:13

About all this talk of newspapers using private investigators ... not being a lawyer I wouldn't know, but might it offer the papers a get-out along the lines of "Yes we asked them to enquire, but we didn't know they'd do that?"

Whaeanui · 27/03/2023 20:14

@Roussette that’s outrageous, financial travel and medical details obtained. Those poor women.

jeffgoldblum · 27/03/2023 20:16

Unfortunately we are all to blame, until everyone of us , stops hankering for private details and salacious gossip, the media and magazines will deploy any method to give it to us .

Roussette · 27/03/2023 20:17

Whaeanui · 27/03/2023 20:14

@Roussette that’s outrageous, financial travel and medical details obtained. Those poor women.

You'd feel absolutely violated wouldn't you

EdieLedwell · 27/03/2023 20:20

Roussette · 27/03/2023 20:01

Here is the latest. What disgusting invasions of privacy.

Bugs taped to windows, hacking of ex-husbands, medical records of Liz Hurley whilst pregnant, and more

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/crime/sadie-frost-actresses-mail-on-sunday-high-court-b2308956.html

Absolutely indefensible. I applaud them all for refusing to accept the pay off.

Whaeanui · 27/03/2023 20:21

Unfortunately we are all to blame I agree. We have to stop demanding and consuming gossip and private information. It’s not just the media is it, who is consuming it? The British public.

MarshaMelrose · 27/03/2023 20:22

Excellent - so do you genuinely think he’s had a hair transplant?

I don't know. If he has, it hasn't worked well.

As someone who has looked into it (I developed alopecia after the birth of my second child)

Aww, sorry about that. My sister has hair problems and it sucks.

I find the hair transfer distribution odd if he has -

I don't really see any hair distribution so I can't really comment on that

it would also be unusual to use pubic or axillary hair for this as there is less of it and would produce a natural result.

You see, I think the same. I've brought this up before that having pubic hair growing out of your head can't be a good look. It's a different texture. Even a different colour. I mean surely being bald is preferable to having a scalp full of pubes. And I wonder how pleasant that would be for Meghan to run her fingers through it?
If that's what they did, it's probably a blessing it failed, eh?

He looks like he has more than enough in the donor area if he wanted to go down that route. I wonder if he’ll do an Elton - just show up one day with a full head of hair

Well, he takes a lot of private jets with Elton so I'm sure they'll have discussed it. And Elton will have warned him about the possibility of failure. He had a few attempts that failed. He also put his hair loss down, in part, to drugs and alcohol. So that's one lesson there for Harry.

PlanetLuna · 27/03/2023 20:22

Bluespecsandshoes · 27/03/2023 14:01

Absolutely Rousette!

Anyone who thinks that there hasn’t been an alleged sustained press attack against Harry and Meghan should follow the money!

Harry directs quite a lot of alleged criticism towards Rebekah Brooks in the book as he (apparently) says that she allegedly spun a story about him related to his alleged drug-taking.

Brooks, as posters may know, is a former journalist, former editor of tabloid newspapers, and a prominent figure in the news international phone hacking scandal.
She now works as a senior executive

In the trial she was acquitted, owing to lack of concrete evidence, of being aware of the murkier practices of her journalists whose job one of them described as “destroying people’s lives” and they did this by illegally hacking phones, searching through bins, paying off friends and colleagues. The worst of this was the hacking of the phone of the murder victim, Milly Dowler. Let’s just say there was much discussion afterwards about the level of Brook’s involvement.

And who were, according to an Evening Standard article in 2014, among the friends who “had Rebekah’s back” during her trial? It was none other than Jeremy Clarkson and Piers Morgan! Funny that!

Clarkson said “he was beyond ecstatic” that she was acquitted.

Morgan said “he was so happy for my friends Rebekah and Charlie”

And who were the prominent journalists who wrote the most vile things about Harry and Meghan … ah…let me see ….

And who is rumoured to take over Murdoch’s empire?

Indeed, @Bluespecsandshoes.

Here’s an article that outlines how Rehabber Kooks was obsessed with Prince Harry when he was an underaged teenager. It describes how she authorised a “sting” with that fake Sheik trying unsuccessfully to get an underaged Harry to take cocaine.

She is truly vile.

PlanetLuna · 27/03/2023 20:24

PlanetLuna · 27/03/2023 20:22

Indeed, @Bluespecsandshoes.

Here’s an article that outlines how Rehabber Kooks was obsessed with Prince Harry when he was an underaged teenager. It describes how she authorised a “sting” with that fake Sheik trying unsuccessfully to get an underaged Harry to take cocaine.

She is truly vile.

https://bylineinvestigates.com/2020/04/07/royal-exclusive-murdoch-ceo-brooks-illegally-spied-for-a-year-on-teen-prince-harry/

Murdoch CEO Brooks illegally spied for a year on teenage Prince Harry – Byline Investigates

https://bylineinvestigates.com/2020/04/07/royal-exclusive-murdoch-ceo-brooks-illegally-spied-for-a-year-on-teen-prince-harry/

Whaeanui · 27/03/2023 20:28

A copy of the birth certificate of Sir Elton John and David Furnish's first child was published in the Daily Mail before they had seen it themselves, they allege.
In written arguments outlining each claimant's case, their lawyer David Sherborne said they found "disturbing" the "deliberate tactics" used by Associated News Ltd to "bypass the confidentiality and ethical protections afforded to medical information".
They were also "heartbroken" at the "derogatory" headline attached to the article, which they say was intended to "generate public sensation" about an event they had wanted to "keep precious" to them.
"The fact that these unlawful articles, which carry so much upset, were founded through unlawful acts that were all the time deliberately concealed from them has enraged them," Mr Sherborne says.
The dates and headlines of articles being complained about have been redacted in court documents made available to members of the media this afternoon.

From Sky News.

milti · 27/03/2023 20:32

Harry takes careful notes using his favourite crayon

Harry is in town to fight against the Daily Mail - VIDEO
Plitvice · 27/03/2023 20:32

That is truly terrible for the other claimants. I am less sure about Harry's claim. How does it tally with his recently declared position on drugs? Was he only happy to take them discreetly as a teenager but is now happy to sing their praises in the most public of ways? Is he particular about his co-users and their credibility, happy to take them if the circumstances are right regardless of the devastating impact they have in poor communities and countries? Does his outrage related to his teenage angst over being 'grassed up' and getting into trouble at home?

Bluespecsandshoes · 27/03/2023 20:36

What an interesting article PlanetLuna thanks for the link. Ouch at Diana being described as "little more than a hired womb". Sadly all too true.

And yes it is interesting isn't it Whaeanui. One of the things I remembered from Leveson 1 was how the bosses put massive pressure on all of these journalists to come up with information that would "destroy lives" and the implication was, although not always proven sadly, that they allegedly turned a blind eye to how it was obtained.

Whaeanui · 27/03/2023 20:38

ANL, on human rights grounds, asked for some details to be kept private 😬

“Associated News Ltd (ANL) is successful in its bid to have certain reporting restrictions temporarily imposed on the hearing taking place at London's High Court today.
Mr Justice Nicklin allowed the application to prevent some elements of the case from being reported during the preliminary proceedings.
It includes a ban on naming individual journalists connected to the claims, while a decision is being made on whether the case should go to trial.
A part of the skeleton argument put forward by lawyers for the group of high-profile individuals including Prince Harry will also be withheld.
ANL alleges that this information contained in court documents is being used by lawyers for the Duke of Sussex and others in breach of orders made by Lord Justice Leveson in his inquiry into press standards.
Catrin Evans KC, representing the publisher, had argued that the order was necessary in the "interests of justice", and journalists involved have the "right to a good reputation".
David Sherborne - a prominent lawyer among those representing the claimants - said they were "neutral" on the application but would "not rise" to what he said was a suggestion by Ms Evans that the claimants themselves had whipped up public interest in the case.
Explaining his decision following arguments by both sides, Justice Nicklin said the proceedings are at "a very early stage" and restrictions are "in the interests of fairness" and "justice".
As we've been reporting, ANL is looking to have the case thrown out before going to trial.

Bluespecsandshoes · 27/03/2023 20:43

And thank you for second link PlanetLuna my goodness that article about our alleged "friend" is an eye opener! She must have allegedly been keen for an alleged promotion! To allegedly use a minor to allegedly climb the career ladder is rather low is it not? And her alleged strategy has allegedly worked!

jeffgoldblum · 27/03/2023 20:45

When I said everyone, I meant in the world, all humans love gossip and ' the truth' about others , every country that can has newspapers and glossy magazines and those that don't, do it the old fashioned way .

MarshaMelrose · 27/03/2023 20:46

Oh, @milti. You're very naughty. 😂

minou123 · 27/03/2023 20:51

David Sherborne - a prominent lawyer among those representing the claimants

Thank you for the info @Whaeanui

David Sherbourne's name rang a bell for me, and uit clicked. He was the lawyer for Colleen Rooney in the "Wagatha Christie" case.

So, I did a little googling. And interestingly, he was also the lawyer for the Mccanns and Milly Dowler's family during the Leveson Enquiry.

Whaeanui · 27/03/2023 20:52
  • *Private Investigators allege that landlines were tapped – a much more serious offence than phone hacking.
  • Further allegations include breaking into cars and bugging homes.
  • Lawyers claim that medical records were ‘blagged’ from hospitals and bank statements were obtained by deception.
  • However, the paper’s long-serving Editor-in-Chief Paul Dacre denied his papers hacked phones in sworn evidence at the Leveson Inquiry.
  • If it turns out the Mail were involved and he knew, Dacre potentially faces 51 weeks in jail for misleading a public inquiry.
Serenster · 27/03/2023 20:56

Roussette · 27/03/2023 19:54

It's all on Wiki. Not figures but settlements.

Just pointing out that there’s quite a lot of conflating and assumptions going on in this thread. Some points to clarify this.

The only news papers to date that have been proved in court to have used phone hacking were the Sun and the News of the World, both Murdoch-owned News International titles.

Various people at both publications were investigated for this, and some criminally prosecuted. Rebekah Brooks, famously, was acquitted (her defence laughably amounted to “I was actually a completely incompetent chief executive of that newspaper and so I didn’t have the foggiest idea what any of my reporters were up to” - 🙄). Former NOTW editor Andy Coulson (who was having an affair with Rebekah while all this was going on…) and reporter Clive Goodman were however convicted, along with a private investigator they used.

The lawsuits that posters above are referring to as being settled by hacking victims were all against News International publications, and have nothing to do with this case against ANL, the publisher of the Mail.

The number of times Harry/Kate/William’s phones were hacked also relate to the News International cases, and are not allegations against the Mail

This case is a new claim brought by Prince Harry and various other claimants against the Mail on the basis that they claim to have recently learned that it also used illegal means to obtain information for stories, including phone hacking. They are seeking compensation for breaches of their privacy, if the illegal tactics are proved (proving they happened will be what the case is all about, if they can get it off the ground).

Hacked Off, the activist group that campaigns for an accountable press, is also pushing for a public investigation into the Mail’s past practices.

There are two potential problems with this current case. Firstly, the fact that the abuses it alleges all took place a long time ago, starting in the early 2000s. Legally you normally only have six years within which to bring a court claim. If you start it after that six years are up, you are “out of time” and the claim will be struck out. That’s one of the main planks of the Mail’s defence, and what will be considered in these preliminary hearings.

Secondly, if you bring a claim out of time you can sometimes argue that the six years’ limit only started running once you found out about the unlawful activity, rather than when it actually happened. The problem here is that the Information Commissioner’s Office conducted its own investigation into journalism practices in 2003 and raided the office of a private investigator who worked for the Mail, amongst others, and revealed all the illegal tactics that he used for his clients. So it might be difficult to argue that no-one knew about this until recently.

This is all said without seeing any of the claimants’ evidence however - they may well be able to get around the timing problem. Good luck to them, too! (My own personal view is that Leveson 2 should have gone ahead and the press subjected to independent regulation to clean up their horrific practices).

Back to Hacked Off for a moment though. If the court case is deemed to be out of time, Harry would be best placed throwing his weight behind them, as an independent enquiry isn’t constrained by time limits and look can look back as far as it wants. It can’t award compensation to victims, however.

purpledalmation · 27/03/2023 20:57

I can't stand Harry or his wife, but for once I'm glad he's part of a group action regarding hacking. If its proven, they deserve to get hung out to dry (newspapers that is). Its a despicable practice.

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