Royal popularity bounces back led by William and Kate - Ipso poll

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Royal popularity bounces back in UK after Harry book saga – led by William and Kate | The Independent

https://www.thedailybeast.com/why-does-king-charles-and-queen-camillas-coronation-already-feel-like-a-bust

Harry is more popular than Camilla ! If Charles's had any nous he would have abdicated and given K&W at chance to do a monarchy reboot instead he will run it into the ground over the next decade or so.

But Charles and Camilla seem to have a bigger problem; straightforward, old-fashioned unpopularity.Although Charles got a bit of a bounce when he became king, he is still desperately unpopular compared to his mother.It’s worth looking at the list, compiled by pollsters YouGov at more length: in the U.K., Kate Middleton is the most popular royal with a 68-percent approval rating followed by Prince William on 67 percent, then it’s Princess Anne on 64 percent, then King Charles on 56 percent, Zara Phillips on 48 percent, Prince Edward on 47 percent, Sophie on 44 percent, Harry on 40 percent, and then Camilla on 39 percent. Bringing up the tail end is Meghan on 29 percent and Prince Andrew on 12 percent.

Oh dear, all that work mangling Diana's reputation and people are still not that into Camilla.

Now Macron has cancelled their "historic" first state visit.

Tant pis.

One reason was states having slaves gave you a cost advantage over the British who had abolished it so the Navy policing it was as much about economics as it was an act of conscience and allowed Britain to claim the high moral ground whilst colonizing huge parts of the world for plunder and profit and sowing dissension with divide and rule. And let’s not forget the British slavers were recompensed from the British purse whilst most Britain's lived in penury. But hey ho God Save the King !

Now Macron has cancelled their "historic" first state visit

You Harry and Meghan supporters certainly have a talent for misinformation.

The trip was cancelled by mutual agreement because half of Paris is currently on fire.

However, awful Harry is in those polls Camilla is just a tad more awful.

@blitheringblackberries but @MrsMaxDeWinter only said their first visit was cancelled. There’s no misinformation in that. I’m sure most are aware of the why since our major news.

However of you average the couples, C&C are on 47.5 and H&M on 34.5

Charles is considerably more popular than Harry, and Camilla more than Meghan

And yes the visit was cancelled because of the extensive rioting currently taking place in Paris

Well the Palace is briefing journalists to say Charles would have "soldiered on", and the Meghan bashers' favourite vituperative slurring writer Tom Bower is saying Charles "would not have wanted to give in to the mob".

As I said, tant pis.

I'm quite surprised how far Edward has got up the polls! Maybe it's a question of least awful rather than most popular ... .

Sorry Vera99 I missed that you kind of just said that! 😄

I don't see this as a popularity contest between H&M and the rest - but more of a case of the Monarchy vs The "People." If collectively the pre-eminent Royal Couple can't muster more than half the population in a poll then we are in uncharted territory and why I would suggest that monarchists instead of trying to square that circle and hold the line should favour W&K taking over for the sake of the "Firm" and in turn after 20 years letting George etc etc. That and some financial reform to help educate the populace as why we should care about this family any more.

The visit was sensibly cancelled because of riots. You haven't a scooby whether the palace is briefing anyone about anything.

I'm not sure what survey the eminent 'Daily Beast' journalist is referring to, but it's not the latest YouGov poll.

According to that poll, linked to on the first page, Camilla has a net popularity rating of +11, while Harry's is -39. A points difference of 50, in Camilla's favour.

So while she's certainly not wildly popular by any stretch, your claim that Harry is more popular is simply false. He is vastly less popular.

https://docs.cdn.yougov.com/6xeg5h7mi1/RoyalFamily_Opinion_2012toPresent_W.pdf

Disingenuous of you not to state why Macron chose to postpone the visit.

It's due to the current violent protests in France, not because he couldn't be bothered.

www.cbc.ca/news/world/king-charles-france-visit-1.6789548

It's apparently OK to believe the tabloid gutter Royal Press only about certain things it would appear.

The British tabloid get Royal news right, but never ever ever tell the truth about H&M.

I have not said I believe it, I say it is being leaked. Just as it is being leaked that William is "incandescent with rage" over Harry and that the family is going to send H and M to Siberia, and Camilla's grandkids have a role et etc, and that the negative press about m was being leaked from Kensington palace.

It is hard to know what to believe because nothing is ever transparent with these people. But I guess the leaking must work somehow..

It is hard to believe - stories like 'America is waking up - Harry and Meghan warned the tide is turning amid parody books', and 'Florida boss admits Americans find Harry and Meghan annoying as US support dwindles', not to mention 'Harry is facing a serious problem after confessing he took drugs on US soil'.

I suppose if you believe negative tabloid stories about the RF, it's a difficult position to then not believe negative stories about Harry and Meghan, even in the same publication.

It’s sort of stupid to obsess about opinion polls isn’t it? People can go from being loved to being hated so quickly. Charles understands that because it’s happened to him.

He's got quite a temper on him hasn't he that Willy he should see somebody for that.

Those particular headlines, whose stories I have not read, are easy to dismiss as inherently biased.

Parodies are not unique to Harry: they are an inevitable side effect of successful books. The book is the Guinesss world record holder of the best selling work of non-fiction ever published. Of course it is going to invite parodies. And it's easy to parody because of the nature of the material.

Jane Austen, Harry Potter, Shakespeare, Tolkien, even EL James who may as well be a parody herself have been parodied. No one has ever parodied an unsuccessful book. Not once.

On the visa thing: it's a right wing think tank that made an application to see Harry's visa application. The relevant authorities correctly responded by asking them to submit a form signed by Harry consenting to the release of the information because without that they do not release private information.

Harry will not be deported, his visa is not in trouble, if only because in America, money talks, he is not a hapless immigrant who will get shafted. He is a prince of the United Kingdom with lots of money and good lawyers and there are no circumstances under which he will be deported leaving behind his American children and wife.

More on parodies here! (Oh, I love this new MN feature)

https://www.tckpublishing.com/parody-books/

So it's OK to quote a headline claiming William is incandescent with rage with absolutely no foundation at all, but a headline about an American claiming Harry and Meghan's popularity in the US is fading fast is easy to dismiss and inherently biased?

So there's no bias in your reading of the press at all then?

You miss my point. Royal insiders are said to be briefing this stuff and enough journalists have confirmed that they are briefed by royal insiders and palace sources.

They could be lying of course, anything is possible with the UK's ghastly tabloid media.

Yes how skewed was that post..

Crazy, I don’t think they’ve noticed what’s going on in France

There's also been plenty of journalists (UK & US) saying that they've also been briefed behind the scenes from Harry & Meghan.

I'm sure it's perfectly believable from both sides.

A day of indoctrination. How nice 😀